Snusmumrik
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Natusichka, look for it immediately (when you decide on the choice of a book) a cover for it, in my case it turned out to be a problem
And here look 🔗, they have a large selection and decent quality. I took it for my Nuka 1.5 years ago, I was satisfied.
Natusichka
Thank you, I already sent it to my daughter ... looks

How do you like this option 🔗
Qween
Natusichka, also this model is not already produced. She, by the way, has no backlight.
Arkady _ru
Quote: Natusichka
How do you like this option
It is only present on the secondary housing.
With the backlight, you should decide right away whether you need it or not. In any case, you should not get carried away with reading in the dark with backlighting.
613 is really nothing. The screen, although not a Pearl one, but of high quality and visually will be no worse. 614 I don’t know, I took my sister 613. The price of the cover was 20-25% of the cost of the book. 614 and 613 are the same size and design.
In my understanding, Wi-Fi is not needed, since we are not a Kindle with Nuk, we have a decaying capitalist mentality. We have a special become ... Audiobooks can be listened to on a smart / phone, as well as music ... whoever suits. Readers do not differ in good sound quality.
Amazon Kindle 5 is not bad either. but for the appearance of additional formats, it will have to be slightly modified. Covers with the 4th are the same. The lack of a memory card shouldn't scare you, since the built-in one is enough.
Natusichka
Thank you! She found this daughter with her hands ... who knows ... the guy says that he just doesn't need him, because someone else bought something ... and then ... who knows ...
Arkady, passed your message to the doce, because there are many swear words words that I do not understand at all ...

They seem to have agreed to meet and look at this book ... What should you pay special attention to? The guy says she's still under warranty ...
Arkady _ru
Natusichka, I would, I think, took it, especially since it is still under warranty. See that the buttons work and the screen is free of image defects, and the case is in good condition without traces of blows / dents, etc., otherwise we can say that there is no guarantee. The cover must be included, as well as the warranty card with the check and so that the warranty does not end in a week (preferably six months). If there is no check, then I wouldn’t take more than 500 (we don’t need a check in St. Petersburg, but I don’t know about you). Let them bargain, they will call you, supposedly advise whether it is worth taking for this price (which one, by the way?) And offer less. Its price should be from 800 and less. To put pressure on the fact that the screen is of the first generation, and the book does not need Wi-Fi and bluetooth, and its size is larger than the current ones. The new 613/614 costs 1030, add a cover to it (let it be 1200) and get 602 with a slightly worse screen, but unnecessary waffles and bluetooth. The price for which he took is not taken into account, if above 1200 - the model is outdated (according to the screen and is no longer sold). If the price is not announced, then let him not name it first, but say that she is ready to accept it as a gift or 500. In general, you need to bargain, based on the circumstances, not pounding with happiness, not rushing to grab and shout, what an awesome thing. Well, I wish ...
What he doesn't need is also very good. I also bought mine like this. I bought from the one to whom it was presented to the DR, but he did not need it. So it was almost new for less than 2/3 the price.
Natusichka
and what is 613,614 ... is this a series ???
Arkady _ru
Pocket models 613 and 614, both basic, that is, basic 6 "without wifi (613), bluetooth and case.
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* kolyma *
Snusmumrik, thanks for the tip, there is plenty to choose from
Giraffe
Eh, who would have offered me that for half the price or even less ... I want a third reading room in my family.
Countryman
My personal experience shows that when consulting with a good specialist, it is necessary to pose the question as specifically and narrowly as possible. When this rule is violated, the specialist begins to unwind his thick ball of knowledge and, as a result, the questioner falls into a state of his own inferiority and ceases to understand in the subject even what he previously understood well. Or thought he understood.

Natusichka and Arkady _ru this has been clearly demonstrated to all of us here.

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Nothing personal. It was because of this that I did not see the benefit of pre-examination consultations as a student. You do not know one, the other does not know the other. The teacher begins to explain to both - to him what you know, and to you, what he knows ... And as a result, you leave the consultation feeling like a complete fool.
Natusichka
Konstantin! You absolutely did not understand us. After all, at the beginning I also explained that I absolutely did not understand anything about this, and I was sending all the messages to my daughter. I don’t even try to understand, because I don’t need it. But she understands and it helped her a lot!
See post 1489, where I specifically indicated what I would like to get in the end .. and Arkady gave a specific answer.
* kolyma *
Natusichka, tell us what you got with the book?
* kolyma *
Several times already on the Internet, information has come across that covers with MAGNETIC clasps harm e-books, is this true?
Arkady _ru
* kolyma *, Amazon is releasing a case with magnets for its books.
Chef
The future of the book

E-book (reader)

So, an ordinary Moscow apartment, 2018.
- Dad, can I take 99 bucks off your card? You have to pay for the book.
- What kind of book?
- Well, this one. Dostoevsky. "Crime and Punishment".
- So why buy. We have it.
- Yes? And in which file?
- And here are the files. Here he is, on the shelf ...
- Uh-uuu. It's a paper book!
- So what? Well I read it in your years.
- In your years, in your years ... There is no search. How do you think I will find quotes? There is no audio accompaniment here. There are no animated pictures either. Only text, in which even the font cannot be changed ... What are you? Everyone at school will laugh at me! Read this yourself.
- Okay. Here, take the DVD. I bought it fifteen years ago.
- What? DVD? And what do you think I am going to read about this antique? Take it to the Polytechnic Museum. Offer me another punched tape with Dostoevsky!
- If you are so smart, then search the net yourself, and download it for free.
- Download the book for free !?
- Well yes. What else? The copyright does not extend to Dostoevsky's books for years ago ... Surely, somewhere it lies.
- You that dad! This can you, at the beginning of the century, you could download everything for free. Haven't you heard that it has been five years since the copyright for all books has been forever transferred to the American Book Publishers Association. Or do you want me, as a member of the Dmitry Sklyarov sect, to be imprisoned for life?
- So, Dostoevsky is not an American! And here are the American publishers.
- Who cares? Are you, dad, an anti-globalist by chance?
- No, what are you! Well, son, it's a pity to spend almost $ 100 per file. Well, you better ask your classmates to give this file. They have something exactly the same. And then you will give them some kind of file.
- Aha! If they give me their Dostoevsky, then where will I read it?
- In the sense, "where"? They are their copy at home, and you are yours here.
- Well, you are completely behind. The book can only be read from the computer from which it was bought. And the polarization code will be different there ... In short, dad, give me money! I'll buy myself a normal book.
- Okay. Here's a one-time password to withdraw 99 bucks from our account. In modern times, $ 100 was a lot of money.
- OK. Downloaded. Thanks.
- Well, let me see too ... Listen, son, what are these pictures? This, it seems, was not in the novel ...
- Duc, these are banners. Without banners, a book costs 699 bucks.
The open file was full of blinking announcements: “Ax Professional, 2018 - modern laser-sharpened axes”; "Cosmetic salon" At Lizanka "- we will not let you turn into an old woman"; “Are you plagued by problems? Psychological service of trust 'Porfiry'; “We credit, cash out. Low percentage "; "RASKOLNIKOFF.COM - challenge naughty old ladies anywhere in the world" ...
- Listen, son, what is the text of the novel not visible? Should I wait until the banners disappear?
- Well, you seem to have fallen from the moon! You will wait a hundred years. The text must be read through polarizing glasses. Without glasses, only advertising is visible!
- And why is this?
- What do you mean why? So that no one, except the one who paid, could read the book! Just imagine if I bought a book, and someone, without buying anything, could read it over my shoulder too ...
- Some kind of stupidity. Well, what if I would wear glasses too?
- Ha, well, you give! The file is only configured for my glasses. Other glasses have a different polarization code.
- Okay, give me your glasses. I'll look at the book through them.
- How do you look? They don't recognize you by your retina. You are in them nothing but a message that you don’t see someone else’s glasses! Okay, dad, don't get in the way with your nonsense! I need to read everything quickly until the license ends, otherwise I will either have to renew the lease of the file, or the book itself will be destroyed. Don't bother me, I'm reading ...
3 hours later.
- Ufff! Well, that's it. I read!
- How did you read everything? "Crime and Punishment" in three hours ?!
- Well yes. I would have read everything faster if there were no commercial breaks every half hour.
- I don’t believe anything equal! Who is, for example, Svidrigailov?
- Who-who?
- Aaaa, everything is clear. Who is Luzhin? Who is Sonya Marmeladova?
- Wow! How do I know! I read the Home Edition. I only have about how Raskolnikov killed the old woman with an ax, and then surrendered. For all the rest, you need to buy the Professional version or, in general, the Enterprise Edition. We don't have that much money.
- Hmm, go crazy where the world is heading!
- It rolled down already. Fifteen years ago I had to think, if not even earlier ...

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Erhan
My husband read Crime and Punishment in less than three hours. Even with the book "War and Peace" it took him about two hours to complete everything. They were comic-type books - pictures with captions recommended by the school.
Natusichka
The daughter found a very attractive offer for the sale of an e-book (from hands), everything was very nicely painted ... What is on the guarantee, and what is sold only because there is a computer and the need for the book has disappeared and that I only used it for a couple of months ... She went to a meeting ... and there it turned out: the body of the book was scratched, the book was not under warranty, began to turn it on, and it freezes ... In general, I did not buy her daughter!
And now she stopped at this one 🔗 , but while collecting money ...
valuhka
Girls, boys who have impressions from Pocketbook 613. Share, pliz
Rarerka
Valentine, I do not know if there is any significant difference, but I have 614. This is exactly what you need, and nothing more! It pumps easily, the ink is cool, the screen is matte, does not glare, the cover was picked up without problems (from another model), bought a week ago, charging 99% for today (not yet recharged), there is no backlight (but it is absent on printed books either). This is really a BOOK, only scrolling through the buttons (the sensor was deliberately avoided)
valuhka
Ludmila, Thank you. One book began to be sorely missed. And to be completely honest, I just don't let go of her. As it turned out, everyone loves to read here, but no one is able to. Therefore, I am considering options for used books (for myself). By and large, I only need the book for reading. I have not used the rest of the functions for 4 months (I have a backlit nuke)
Arkady _ru
In St. Petersburg Yulmart at a discount you can buy 6 "Digma R60G with E-Ink Pearl HD (1024 * 768 non-sensor) gray or black, audio, backlight, but without a cover for 1330r with a guarantee until 12.2014. Size: 170 x 116 x 8 mm. The reasons for the return are both the non-inclusion of the book (since it comes without a pre-installed OS at all and you need to install it yourself by downloading it from the Digma website), and dissatisfaction with some glitches (the absence of a field on the right due to the incorrectly spelled out permission in the 768 kernel installer instead of real 758 pixels, as well as non-working footnotes). At the moment, everything is fixed like in the latest firmware from Digma. In addition to it, there is an adapted firmware from the gmini book. An excellent budget option. The cost of a new book has already been lifted from the initial 2990r to 4 390r, for example, in Svyaznoy. So take note ...
For registered users of Yulmart, it costs 1180r, or $ 33.72 (in any case, I got it at that price). I will test it and give it if there are no jambs. In which case I will return.
See the adapted firmware here: 🔗
PS: for 6 "resolution 800 * 600 is absolutely enough and above the meaning is exactly zero, but marketing requires ... the CFC has generally been deadened ...
valuhka
Arkady _ru, Lucky someone who is next to you!
Arkady _ru
I bought the book Digma R60G. Everything, as expected, is absolutely unused, even the box is from a printing house. The book is stitched into the s / c with the latest firmware from 12/12/2013. Everything works and is displayed adequately. The case does not play or creak, does not slip in the hands and, despite the fact that it is not a soft-touch coating, it feels exactly like this in the hand. There are no traces of pawing of hands on the body. I liked the quality of the plastic and the workmanship of the case. Unless a dummy can be stuffed into the gap of the four lower buttons over time, and they move at least slightly left and right, but do not hang out. It is convenient to use with one hand, the button for flipping forward is lower (there are books that have the opposite), but you can also flip through the ring (joystick) from the bottom of the screen. The backlight works, but it is slightly uneven across the screen: it is stronger from above and it gets worse as its level rises. It is quite enough from 1 to 3. To be honest, the thing is just awesome for the money that I got. The price for the new 4300 is inadequate, considering that there is a Digma R655 for 3,840 rubles, a Gmini MagicBook R6L FrontLight for 3920 rubles and a Qumo Libro Lux for 3630 rubles.
Tomorrow I will pick up a cover for her, but for now I drive.
Rarerka
Arkady _ru, deliciously painted And who is such a gift?
Arkady _ru
A very good friend has a birthday tomorrow, but he works in the subway as a machinist, so you can't get through to him to ask if he wants her as a gift.
I found a jamb so far in the book: if you turn off the book, then it does not go into the readable one at start, but if you send it to sleep (which almost everyone does), then there are no problems.
Tomorrow I'll post the photo in the case.
Rarerka
And they don’t ask about a gift, but they present it as a surprise. pleasant surprise E-book (reader)
May your gift be pleasant and desired E-book (reader)!!!
Mona1
Arkady _ru, but tell me, if you know, is it harmful for a book to be in a dream for a day, for example. I read in the evening before going to bed and always turn it off. But maybe for a book you don't care, you can leave it for so long. She goes into a dream herself, if you do not touch it for a few minutes. And also interesting: in what way does the battery discharge faster - if you turn it off and on or in sleep mode?
Arkady _ru
If I knew exactly what he needed (he wants a car, I know for sure), I would not ask. It is better to ask than to present an unnecessary thing with a pleasant surprise. And I donate money only for the wedding.
Mona1, it is not harmful, this is a regular mode and all books have it, it loads faster this way. If the software is written correctly, then there will be no strong discharge in a dream, so try it. My tablets sleep for months, and then they work and the charge is quite nothing ...
In general, the search for a book cover for non-first-tier brands is not always quick. Before that, I somehow did not deal with book covers, since my PocketBook Pro 902 already has it in the kit. But, after scrolling through the sites and driving around Peter, I drew conclusions.
You should not look for covers that are positioned as universal for 6 ". Versatility is only in the name, they are all designed for books of the first echelon (the reality is that this is exclusively PocketBook) and if the size you have chosen differs noticeably, you can not go and look.
You should find from the first echelon the closest in size to your model and look for a cover for it, but in no case the original, which is made strictly in size, and not its replica.
You can search in the second echelon. For example, the Qumo Libra is similar in size to the Digma R60G and a case would almost certainly fit. The main thing is that it is sold separately and specifically for this model, but it is more expensive (690r and also made of leatherette) and it is far away for me to follow it.
The choice was made: for the Digma R60G, a case was purchased for the Amazon Kindle 4/5.You could have taken it for paperwhite as well. Cost 390r ($ 11)
Kindle dimensions 165.75 mm x 114.5 mm x 8.7 mm, Digma dimensions 170 x 116 x 8 mm

E-book (reader) E-book (reader) E-book (reader)

A non-native from the Kindle approached the digma like a native (well, almost). When the book is open, the tab with the magnet is fastened on the other side to the folded part with the same magnet.
valuhka
Help with the choice. I want to take a second book (used). and I can't decide on a model. The money comes out about the same. The first one I have is Nook with backlight And now I choose between the same Nook, but without light Barnes & Noble Nook The Simple Touch Reader (with a cover, but not Russified, etc., there are few formats) and PocketBook 613 Basic New (Russian, with cover and a bunch of formats)
vatruska
People, but I just thought ... I, in principle, actually need a tablet (roughly speaking for communication with the registrar, if anything) - can it replace the reader?
Arkady _ru
valuhka, it is difficult for me to judge how hard the side keys are on the Nuka, but the fact that it is convenient to flip through them when the reader is in the case is absolutely accurate (more convenient than with a sensor). But if without a cover, then it is more convenient already with the buttons under the screen. The sensor, in my opinion, is only needed to enter text, select fragments for copying and for reading on a stand. Having used the 6 "Digma R60G, I think that it is more convenient to use the Pocket without side buttons. If the Pocket is turned to the album, the buttons will appear and it is convenient to use them, but the weight distribution of the book in the hand will change. In portrait orientation, it is, let's say, more relaxed.
I would choose Nuk, because it has a better screen, the sensor does not glare, and there are side buttons. Charging Nuk also lasts longer, but I don't see much sense in "more than 2 weeks". Well, just for everyone, hold the 613 in the case in your hand, suddenly you will like it more.

vatruska, the reader can replace anything with a screen and a reader. The only question is comfort and harm to vision. It is problematic to use IPS screens (in others it makes no sense at all) in bright daylight. In addition, if you do not read often and not in the conditions that are higher, it is much more relevant to have a good 7 "tablet, provided that in addition to the reader you need something else. It's better than carrying a bunch of devices with you. harm to eyesight, watch less TV and read Soviet newspapers.
valuhka
In fact, Nook does not hold for more than 2 weeks. I thought that only I had such a problem, and when I asked the owners, it was so. I noticed that over time, the charge began to last longer, but as stated in the instructions, no one holds it for so long. And I have never used the side buttons in Nuk, somehow it turns out with which hand I hold the book, with the thumb of the same hand and turn it over (with one touch) In this regard, I like the sensor. But you won't be able to hold Pocket, all through the Internet. My Nuk suits me in everything, I'm just afraid of problems with Russification and firmware, etc. I would like to get ready-made because I'm not in this boom-boom!
Arkady _ru
valuhka, remove, if any, the memory card and turn off the wi-fi. The card, like the waffle, is no use. Read on the internet about the nuka root, etc. There is nothing complicated, you can ask someone for free (son / daughter / husband / lover / good friends / grandfather and grandmother and parents), there are a lot of advanced people. Judging by the last post, the pocket after Nook will definitely not suit you.
valuhka
Arkady _ruthanks for the hint. I'll still stay with what I'm used to (with Nuk)
Mona1
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But you won't be able to hold Pocket, all through the Internet.
Valyusha, and you just go to a store and ask to show it, there are already a lot of books uploaded in the Pockets, you will sing, you will have a look. And you will order already on the Internet, if Th. Well, or, come to me, I'll give you my Pocket 612 to have a look, you might like this one, only it cannot be controlled with your fingers, with buttons on the side and at the bottom with a joystick and a stylus. So I wrote here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=98894.0
I also ordered it through the Internet, and when I picked it up at their store in our city, the guy who made out told me that this was a very reliable and high-quality model. But this is not a new one, it is an earlier one.
valuhka
Tanya, special thanks for the invitation to Donetsk. I'll go into the store and take a look. But the feeling of a book with and without a cover is different. My Nook in the cover is much more comfortable for me than without it. Boom think
Chamomile
Do you think you can buy a repaired book in Yulmart if it is under warranty?
Arkady _ru
Chamomile1, you can, I took my Digma like that. And both Starway 910 and 930 tablets are from a discount and have been working for the second year already. And besides them, a bunch of everything, including the grill and the Boman mini oven. The things of the first brands are being repaired there in the s / c, the rest are either not repaired at all, or they are reflashed. Sometimes they accidentally sell ... How else to explain that I bought a stove for 964r zero at a new price of 3 tons more expensive. In Tula, I would take the Gmini MagicBook Z6 Graphite (without backlighting, it already comes with a cover in the kit and a price tag from 1620r) with a guarantee until 10.2014. Gmini MagicBook R6L FrontLight with backlight, cover is also included, from 19ххр.
* kolyma *
I want to share my impressions of my book with you again - to say that I am satisfied, it means to say nothing - I am VERY happy, I like everything about it, it is my first and therefore it seems that it is the best and most convenient. I read every day for 1-2 hours (often with backlighting) and there is still a charge (and in a week it will be like mine for a month), however, it turned out that I am a greedy man - so far I do not give it to anyone, it is mine!
Mona1
Tanya, it's very cool that immediately love at first sight. I also have the same with my Pocket (only another model). I own it for several months, and my hands reach out to her every free minute. The whole family has already gone to bed, and I get high in silence - I read. Also an hour and a half a day (or rather, almost at night) In a month I'll go to the sea to rest, I'm already looking forward to it, not so much the sea itself, as I want to read skoko. And then on vacation you often do not know what to do with yourself. I even bought two covers for myself. At home - it is in a black cover, and on a trip I will change it in sand color, so that it harmonizes with the beach.
Taia
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I want to share my impressions of my book with you again - to say that I am satisfied, it means to say nothing - I am VERY happy, I like everything about it, it is my first and therefore it seems that it is the best and most convenient.
What's your model?
* kolyma *
Mona1, so she's a fashionista, she will change outfits
* kolyma *
aoi, something left early - I am adding: yes, love is just from the first touch ... but I haven't bought the cover yet, snusmumrik (if I wrote it wrong - sorry) gave the address of the store, and there is a choice ... I already have eyes like this, and I still choose. Taia, I have a PocketBook Touch Lux (623)
Taia
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Taia, I have a PocketBook Touch Lux (623)
Yeah thanks. We have it for sale, $ 196. How about the price?
Mona1
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Tan, come on to YOU, okay? And the cover is really needed. I am no longer afraid that it will slip out of hands, that it will get dusty, scratched by something that accidentally falls on the screen or a pen or keys or something else. Again, you can put it in a bag if you are on a trip. Only it is better to buy not on the Internet, but in a live store. There you can try on a book, feel how thick and hard the cover is, this is important for the good preservation of the screen (I heard from the Pocket that they are fragile, you need to take great care). Again, make sure that when the book is in the cover, no ribbons, fasteners, straps from the cover overlap the buttons of the book. In this case, it is not necessary to look for a cover from a specific book model. You can take absolutely any, but suitable in size, quality, according to how the book sits in it, how the book in the cover lies in your hand. By rigidity. I climbed my entire radio market, there are a bunch of magazines on it, and there are a bunch of different covers everywhere, but I barely found it, however, I have a non-standard size book. By the way, I saw some that I liked in online stores, and looked at them live - they look so cheap. So I was glad I didn't order it on my computer. And when, after several hours of unsuccessful searches, I did find one that fits, I bought two at once, the same, but different colors. Moreover, they cost 2 times cheaper than the others for some reason, although they look and feel - on the contrary, they look very stylish and rich. Maybe it depends on the company or something else.
* kolyma *
Taia, I got approx. $ 145; a little expensive for you ...

Mona1, Tanyusha, yes I know what is needed, but in my village there is NOTHING on it, but you can look at the covers - I'll throw off your address, how do you see them at first glance?
Chamomile
Arkady _ru,
I came with thanks. I bought it. I took it backlit. I like her. I read and even have no time to test seriously. The book in fb2 normally displays, and the rest has not yet reached the point. 🔗 🔗
Arkady _ru
You are welcome. This book from a discount is unambiguously justifying itself. You can put your own screensaver instead of the standard ones or in addition to them by choosing this option from the menu when viewing the desired image. They will change each time in turn, if there are several. But this is already a whim, b / w, essno. fb2 and epu work fine. What else do you need?
Chamomile
I don't suffer from such nonsense on my laptop on my desktop, I put a photo with my favorite poppies and that's it, and I don't see any point in the book at all. Moreover, I read it and it opens at the place where I left off. The splash screen is not visible. So I'm pretty happy !!! Made myself a birthday present. Moreover, at such a humane price.

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