Oca
Quote: k.alena

Scarlet 18L seems a little small ... or not?
I haven’t heard about Klatronic, I can’t say anything. But 18L is not enough for baking, IMHO, even my 20L microwave seems incredibly cramped. Putting my hand on my heart I will say that you need to take Scarlet only in case of an acute lack of money. My mixer burned out, my grandmother's too (moreover, when kneading dough for pancakes!), My friends are not doing well with this brand, they constantly wear equipment to the service. Today in Ashan I was just examining this stove - the switches are frail, one is already broken ... no-no-no, I'd better buy another. Pushkin's fairy tale "about the priest and his worker is a bastard" does not leave my head. This is just my opinion ... Based on the results of a survey of the Internet and shops, I came to the conclusion that a normal stove costs from 2500 rubles (from 30 to 40 liters). Although I saw a beautiful, white KUMTEL KF3000 for 1300r, it has everything except convection ... but I thought that I would buy it and my conscience would torment me.
By the way, a passing question. How in LUXELL LX-3520 Turbo to control the activation of convection? I liked this model. There are alternatives in other stores in the city (with large baking sheets and convection):
1) Luxell LX-3575 Turbo
2) Erisson MO4242CX black
3) Erisson MO4252C
4) Redber EO-4290
5) Redber EO-5290
6) Rolsen KW-3025
7) and possibly Redber EO-5250, but it has two "pancakes" on the roof.
I'm going to take from this list, maybe there is a catch? Who has such stoves at home, please respond to the LAN. I will order via the Internet, I'm terribly afraid to miss the size
lenabo
Maria, and you did not receive an answer to my message in a personal message?

I will duplicate with some additions here just in case, maybe it will be useful to someone else.

The stove (I have a Luxell LX-3520) bakes. But now I regret not taking Delongy. Although Luxell cost almost 4 times cheaper.
Of the advantages - it is large inside, the shape of 30 cm fits perfectly. And the price is an advantage, of course.
The hope that it would be possible to set a low temperature did not come true. It is not set below 130, that is, you must constantly monitor that it has not turned off and periodically turn the lever. But meringue still bakes better than my gas one.

For questions about Myriya Wasp:
1) First and foremost is the power of the oven. As I found, there are from 1300 to 1800W, but how much is really needed to fire up the oven with a pie, say, to 220C?
Heats up pretty quickly, about 10 minutes, probably.

2)
Inner space. Requirements: width not less than 37cm, depth not less than 32cm, and height not less than 18cm from the baking sheet on the lowest shelf to the "ceiling". It's about 21 liters, but I feel that I need to buy more.
This is exactly how it is.

3)
Timer - what does it do? a) beeps about readiness, b) turns off the heating element, c) delayed start function.
The timer switches off the oven. There is no delayed start, the oven is primitive (see price)

4)
Convection. I read that it is good, especially when cooking on 2 baking sheets at the same time. Probably worth buying with this feature?
The fan is simple, it is in this stove that it constantly turns off. Convection is switched on / off with a button. But when baking, it constantly turns off by itself, perhaps a glitch, perhaps this is intended. But with it, the oven heats up faster.

5)
Thermostat. Are there electric stoves without it? Honestly, I don't know, I never had it, but IMHO thing is useful.
No idea.

6)
Backlight. I always dreamed of her, so as not to shine a flashlight. How necessary is it?
Convenient thing. But it does not turn off, that is, there is more energy than if it were not there.

7)
A separate question about the presence of heating "pancakes" on top of the oven, like this one: "LUXELL LX3577 mini oven + 3 pancakes". Now there is no stove, so I'm thinking of taking a stove + oven.The only confusing thing is that when the stove is on the table, it will be inconvenient to stir something in a frying pan / saucepan.
I don't know, mine is without pancakes. But I would be uncomfortable.
Oca
Quote: lenabo

Maria, and you did not receive an answer to my message in a personal message?
I will duplicate with some additions here just in case, maybe it will be useful to someone else.
I received a message, I read this topic almost all over, and I left you a thank you. I just want to know if this stove has any unpleasant surprises, the price attracted a lot. Delongy's stoves were not on sale. I would like to hear the exact dimensions of the "workspace", without "ribs" on the sides. I have favorite shapes 35x25, round with a diameter of 28cm (no more than 30cm that's for sure) and a cupcake with 13.5 cm in height of the pipe, the exact dimensions are not written on the Internet.At least the linear dimensions of the lattice know ... If something goes wrong, I'm sorry, I restless has written to several online stores, but they do not respond or celebrate until the 11th.

It seems to have found the dimensions of the baking sheet / wire rack mm: 440x320 / 440x320. And I also saw that LUXELL LX-3520 Turbo is not white, in steel I want WHITE!

Nightmare! Today I went to the site, and there the most advantageous offers Luxell, Erisson, Redber and Rolsen are now "Not available to order" I wrote a letter to the support, asked "when will they be?"
Oca
Well, there is no one there .. We bought mini-ovens and they are sitting, I suppose, on holidays they indulge in buns ... Here is what is written on the official website about Rolsen KW-3025:
Dimensions H x W x D 32x53.5x38, do I understand correctly that this means depth - 38, height - 32, width - 53.5?
Quote: Andreevna

Girls and boys, I report, they brought the oven! Outwardly very pretty. External dimensions: 51x32x32, internal: 37.5x31.5x26, baking sheet: 33.5x26.0 is a usable area, without sides.
Does not match, something is wrong here ... Where is the width, where is the depth? The seventh hour I read the topic, my head is spinning. Andreevna, OksanaD and other happy owners of 30-liter Rollsen, where are you? How is the temperature in the oven not too high? Now the choice is between Luxell and Rolsen. Look at my posts above, what can you advise. None of the online stores have answered me yet, there is nothing to touch / measure in local stores.
Oca
Only one person from the forum responded. The store also replied that they did not know about the delivery time, maybe there will be no more ovens. There is still no reliable information about the external and internal dimensions of LUXELL LX-3520 Turbo and Rolsen KW-3025. For online stores, the difference in descriptions is huge, it does not coincide with the manufacturer's website. I downloaded instructions for them - the same pies, only in profile, nothing is clear.
Who is not too lazy to write what they have: Power, WxHxD (external, internal), Temperature range, Timer, Backlight, Convection and, finally, what is actually included in the delivery set ??? Is it possible in Rolson to include the lower heating element and convection separately? Also, what is the inner coating?
I just can't choose: Luxel is big, roomy, but ugly; Rolsen is handsome, compact and we have 3 of their service centers.
Probably, I'm not a wasp, but a woodpecker - I managed to bother everyone
IRR
Quote: poiuytrewq

They also say that shopping is soothing, relaxing ... in general, it works wonders.

relaxes relatives, and strains the forum

WASP!Masha! - I will not keep track of the information drain. Tell me simply - between what and what are you rushing about - in terms of volume? I'll describe the insides to you. I will measure it if necessary. I have 2 ovens - 18 (it will be too small) and 39.

so far I saw - the top-bottom heating elements are included separately.
OksanaD
Quote: Keti

Oksana, thanks for the answer. Or you can take a picture of the oven in the pencil case.
I'm also thinking about buying and putting it there. So I think how it will be.

Keti, hello!

pencil case can be non-standard for me - bought in Ikea, its width is 56cm inside between the walls.
oven at the top, microwave at the bottom

damn, with the uploading of pictures here terrible hemorrhoids! I spent 2 hours of my precious time, which I don't have a lot of free time - that's why I rarely come here, and I don't answer right away - and as a result, the photos uploaded to this site are not yet available immediately !! on other forums, you can directly upload files to a message - and here only through a link.Or am I wrong? means the forum is so made that hell you will understand how and what to download - so no longer ask me here for pictures.

in general, I had to upload pictures through another site and give them a link here
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
OksanaD
Quote: Oca

Merry Christmas and everyone!
I read 1/3 of the topic, I can’t stand it anymore, I’ll ask the fact that it’s easier for me to choose according to technical characteristics, and since I’ve cooked on gas all my life, I have no idea about the effect of some numbers on the quality of baking. And so, in order:
1) The first and foremost is power ovens. As I found, there are from 1300 to 1800 W, but how much is really needed to heat the oven with a pie, say, to 220C?
2) Inner space... Requirements: width not less than 37cm, depth not less than 30cm, and height not less than 18cm from the baking sheet on the lowest shelf to the "ceiling". It's about 21 liters, but I feel that I need to buy more.
3) Timer - what does he do? a) beeps about readiness, b) turns off the heating element, c) delayed start function.
4) Convection... I read that it is good, especially when cooking on 2 baking sheets at the same time. Probably worth buying with this feature?
5) Thermostat... Are there electric stoves without it? Honestly, I don't know, I never had it, but IMHO thing is useful.
6) Backlight... I always dreamed of her, so as not to shine a flashlight. How necessary is it?

7) A separate question about the presence of heating "pancakes" on top of the oven, like this one: "LUXELL LX3577 mini oven + 3 pancakes". Now there is no stove, so I'm thinking about taking a stove + oven. The only confusing thing is that when the stove is on the table, it will be inconvenient to stir anything in a frying pan / saucepan.

Please, if not difficult, write down some numerical parameters of your stoves and yes / no for the last points. Thank you in advance!
After the 11th I go to the store for the stove, it's already half a year like hotzza pies ...
Rollsen 3025
1.heats up very quickly - no longer than 5 minutes - I turn it on when I start to put the dish or dough into the mold. It bakes excellently, I am very satisfied, even more than a regular oven in a gas stove. I can't say anything for sure about the temperature - I have nothing to measure inside - but I always expose the one that is required in the recipes - and the recipes have already been tested in a standard stove with a gas oven - baking is baked for the same amount of time - so I think nothing is overstated. While the dough is being placed in the mold, the oven is heating up - the timer is on the Off line - heating goes on without a countdown (everything is off in the zero timer position), and then I put the mold in the oven and turn the timer for the required time. I heard and read that small ovens bake worse, even at high power - because there is not enough space - powerful ones burn faster - so it is optimal from 30 liters for baking.
2.internal width from wall to wall 37cm
depth from wall to glass approx. 31cm
height from the bottom of the baking sheet on the bottom shelf to the top shelf 20cm
useful area of ​​the grate without sides 34 by 29.5
3.the timer beeps about readiness and turns off the heating element and light
4.I didn’t cook on 2 trays - not yet necessary - both tins of 6 muffins fit on one wire rack
5.I don't know what it is
6.the illumination here is super - see the photo - it makes me very happy after the oven in an ordinary floor stove, where the door is dark and even with backlighting, nothing is visible - but here the light bulb illuminates brightly, and the glass is completely transparent - you can see just perfect, there is no need at all open the door to check readiness (only at the end - when you need to stick a match into the dough)
7.I agree - pancakes will probably be uncomfortable - because it is high - we now live in a country house - here I have an ordinary two-burner Hephaestus tabletop - it stands on the kitchen table at a standard height and is very convenient - but the oven with pancakes will stand at the same height - or put it somewhere on a lower bedside table or table ...
OksanaD
Quote: Oca

Who is not too lazy to write what they have: Power, WxHxD (external, internal), Temperature range, Timer, Backlight, Convection and, finally, what is actually included in the delivery set ??? Is it possible in Rolson to include the lower heating element and convection separately? Also, what is the inner coating?

Rollsen 3025
width 51cm, but at the bottom on the sides two more bulges stick out somewhere in the centimeter - apparently so as not to be squeezed close to anywhere, so that the distance remains on the sides for ventilation
height with legs 32cm
depth 30 cm

power 1600 W

temperatures 0 - 65 - 120 - 170 - 200 - 240 - marked around the knob with numbers, between them there are still divisions for setting intermediate values

timer, backlight, convection is

one grid included - see the photo above, one baking sheet, and a grill spit and a handle to take out the spit and baking trays without scalding

by the way on the photo there is a silicone form Regent diameter 25cm
separately the lower ten is not included
modes 5
top and bottom heating with blower
heated top with blower
these two are for meat, poultry, fish, potatoes, etc. for even roasting

top and bottom heating - for bread, pizza and game (I bake pastries in this mode)

top heating and spit
top and bottom heating with spit and blower -
these two are written for chicken and game - in short, these are grill modes

weight of products for cooking no more than 3 kg

outside white enamel, inside, in my opinion, stainless steel
Oca
Quote: IRR

Tell me simply - between what and what are you rushing about - in terms of volume? I'll describe the insides to you. I will measure it if necessary. So far I have seen - the top-bottom heating elements are included separately.
And I myself do not know what I want to make a table in Excel and I think ... Here, look, what are they, which one do you want more? Me - the second.
BUT! The first has 2 baking sheets in the set and it is large, the second has only 1 baking sheet, and it is 8cm smaller on each side than Luxel, more compact. The heating elements in Rolson do not turn on separately, at least the lower one would be by itself ... My kitchen is bright, Luxel will look like a galvanized bucket ... But after looking at the photo from OksanaD, I realized that it is enough to pack an unsightly oven and it will become more pleasant to look at. The price and volume are very attractive in Lycksele. Although what for me 39 liters? ...
Tabletop ovens, stoves ... Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
Below is a table sorted by price (from 2150 to 4600r). Attention! I collected data on the Internet - you shouldn't trust them 100%!
ModelVolumePowerWxHxD Tem_ra Timer ShineIncluded
LUXELL LX-3520 Turbo391450 Wt64x42x4040-28076 minutes?2sub + res
Rolsen KW-302530L1600W54*32*300-24060 minutesYesspit, resh, prot (1? 2)
Luxell LX-3575 Turbo39l1450W64x42x3980-32075 minutesYes2prot, res
Redber EO-429042L1800W64x42x460-23060 minutes?1prot, spit, handles for prot. and grill, resh
Erisson MO4252C42L???YesYes2prot, 1resh
Erisson MO4242CX black 42L???YesYes2prot, 1resh
Redber EO-529052L2000W61.3x47.5x49.00-230120 minutesYes1resh, 1prot, spit, 2removable grill and grill handles
Redber EO-525052L2000W63.3x50.6x49.50-230120 minutes?1resh, 2prot, removable handle for prot

There are no parameters in the table Convection and Thermostat - as I looked, it seems that all models have them.

Quote: OksanaD

Rollsen 3025
2.internal width from wall to wall 37cm
depth from wall to glass approx. 31cm
height from the bottom of the baking sheet on the bottom shelf to the top shelf 20cm
useful area of ​​the grate without sides 34 by 29.5
5.I don't know what it is

separately the lower ten is not included
Ooooh SUPER! THANKS
№5 - Thermostat, this thing monitors the temperature and turns on / off heating elements depending on the set value. I only have it in MV and AG, it has never been in the oven ...
sazalexter
Oca Double glass on the door? No? Immediately floppy. Is there a thermostat? No? same way. Feel it with your pens if possible, and take a techie man with you to the store. As a rule, the quality of the "Chinese lanterns" becomes apparent immediately.
Of the producers that the most worthy saw is Delongy and Dream
sazalexter
OksanaD How to "upload" a photo https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=30280.0 And such requirements are not only here A couple of minutes and voila
Oca
Quote: sazalexter

Oca Double glass on the door? No? Immediately floppy. Feel it with your pens if possible, and take a techie man with you to the store. Of the producers that the most worthy saw is Delongy and Dream
I have NEVER met double glass, even in photographs. To touch - in our "village" it is a rarity, I barely found 4 plates of the manufacturer NoneName to "touch". I can see the engineer myself. Delongy is not in online stores (well, or I was looking badly). Dream you say? Yes, I can’t stand this stove. No kitchen appliance could cause so much negativity. By the way, I sell it (self-delivery) for 500r! 4 burners + oven. Almost not yuzana. So that her spirit no longer exists. I'll take a picture and I'll post it on the Avito website tomorrow.
sazalexter
Oca I ask the store here too
Delongy has double glass almost everywhere! Dream15 has served me faithfully for more than 15 years, and even now it plows with friends in the country. When a friend made her "cosmetics" he noticed that he had never seen such thermal insulation in household appliances, and by the way, he was also an engineer
Oca
I looked at the links, the cheapest thing that suits me is De'Longhi EO 3835.A (28 liters), but almost 9 thousand for this joy is an unaffordable price today. Alas, desires do not coincide with possibilities.
IRR
Wasp! , Mash! I have a Luxell LX-3575 Turbo 39l type

(Turkey) and like a galvanized bucket, but I don’t pay attention to it anymore, she only bakes, I forgive her her face for that. And there is no double glass in our budget ones. This is Sane. Take it! the main thing is the heating elements separately, there is convection (the button in the figure is the tumbler on the right - it is) - 2 baking sheets - the dream of the poet-housewife Manechka, take it, stop the torment. Is Rollsen 8 cm smaller on each side? not ... not our size. And 39 liters is a complete practical oven. 52 IMHO bandura, as for the desktop, and 18 -20 shortage. 39 is that.
Omela
Oh, something and I wanted to change my Severin to Rolsen !!! I remember the girls wrote something. that they are not on sale in Moscow.
Keti
OksanaD thank you very much. So, if the width of the pencil case is 56 cm, and the width of the stove is 51 cm, 5 cm remains, that is, 2 cm on the sides and the walls of the case do not heat up? This is what I wanted to know!

And I upload photos through Radical-Photo and it's fast enough.
1) At the top there is a "Browse" button - select a photo from your computer.
2) Just below the button "Download"
3) Copy the address from any line. I like it more from point 3 - click-to-zoom (there is a small photo, but when clicked it increases).
And here in the message you just insert this line.
Mustache. 2-3 minutes of business
*** yana ***
a little off topic, but here we talk about ovens .... if only the upper grill and convection .. really bake normal pies and buns? otherwise they can give me a combined microwave here., but I don't use a micro, but I need a stove ...
Whymuchka
Quote: Omela

Oh, something and I wanted to change my Severin to Rolsen !!! I remember the girls wrote something. that they are not on sale in Moscow.
We could not find a 26-liter Rollsen, but I bought it for 25, and there were 30 liters before NG, but now I didn't look - don't get it yet!
I play with buns.
IRR
Quote: *** yana ***

a little off topic, but here we talk about ovens .... if only the upper grill and convection .. really bake normal pies and buns?

Is it like in AG?

I wanted to say about a stove in a micr ... don't throw your slippers on who bakes in it and who gets it out, but how many pictures I haven't looked at in the tyrnet is not that. At one time I was also puzzled to combine 2 devices in one. AND
*** yana ***
IRR I meant that there is a combination microwave .. it has an upper grill and convection ... people don't need it, they can give it to me ... so I'm interested ... on this combination (upper grill + convection), the oven is really normal biscuits and yeast dough? and I don't need a microwave by itself ...
IRR
Quote: *** yana ***

IRR I meant that there is a combination microwave .. it has an upper grill and convection ... people don't need it, they can give it to me ... so I'm interested ... on this combination (upper grill + convection), the oven is really normal biscuits and yeast dough? and I don't need a microwave by itself ...

HERE

and HERE you can consider and ask in more detail

if they can just give it up, grab it then we'll figure it out
Rita
Quote: *** yana ***

IRR I meant that there is a combination microwave .. it has an upper grill and convection ... people don't need it, they can give it to me ... so I'm interested ... on this combination (upper grill + convection), the oven is really normal biscuits and yeast dough? and I don't need a microwave by itself ...
I bake in this.
Omela
Quote: Why Much

and even 30 liters before NG were,
Whymuchka , but do not tell me where?
*** yana ***
Omela
Rita
I bake in this
are there any nuances.? Well, there, according to the baking time (add / subtract), the volume is just small, I have not come across this ...or what other secrets are there? Does everything revolve on baked goods?
OksanaD
Quote: sazalexter

OksanaD How to "upload" a photo https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=30280.0 And such requirements are not only here A couple of minutes and voila

sazalexter thanks for the hint, I will take it into account for the future. on the forums I rarely go to any - on one where I was most of all - there is a button right under the window for text to upload a photo and insert it into a message - and it is directly loaded directly into your answer in a reduced form with the ability to open a large photo, without any links - although such that there is also a download option here
OksanaD
Quote: Omela

Oh, something and I wanted to change my Severin to Rolsen !!! I remember the girls wrote something. that they are not on sale in Moscow.

Omela There are a lot of Rolsen in Moscow (I was looking for a month ago) - there are more blacks than whites - I easily bought a white one on the Internet before the new year - you saw the pictures above. Ask for the address from Yandex, I took it for delivery. ru - looked now they have neither blacks nor whites available yet.
OksanaD
Quote: Keti

OksanaD thank you very much. So, if the width of the pencil case is 56 cm, and the width of the stove is 51 cm, 5 cm remains, that is, 2 cm on the sides and the walls of the case do not heat up? This is what I wanted to know!

And I upload photos through Radical-Photo

Keti even though there are a bunch of "exhaust" holes on the side - but oddly enough the sides are not heated - the heat all goes up - at the top of the stove on the right, one strip of exhaust holes is also there - only the top panel is hot and the shelf above the oven is warming up - that's why I evicted medicines from the upper cabinet , and populated a stack of service plates - which I rarely use, glasses and towels

And thanks for the tip on uploading photos - if in the next. if you need it, I'll do it

Omela - I think that they will soon appear again - they are being brought from abroad - and there usually, long before the new year, supplies stop, and then we have a vacation for half a month - so right now they will bring it - do not worry - trucks have already gone in large quantities - we the other day we were in a shopping center - there are heaps of boxes in several shops - they got the goods dismantled - and they were driving to Moscow from their dacha along the Minsk highway - the trucks are already on their way to Moscow, so wait!
OksanaD
Quote: Omela

So I looked .. many places .. no .. that's why I ask.

here they don't seem to write that no

here, too, the black ones are added to the basket as well - apparently you need to call to find out

in general try Yandex - he knows everything))
Oca
Everyone, everyone THANKS!
Resolved, take LUXELL LX-3520 Turbo. Let it be ugly, but the main thing is that the buns are beautiful! Today I found a box, the size of a Rollsen oven, put molds in it, measured it, figured it out - not enough (as in the m / f "Last year's snow was falling" - It will not be enough, a little!) Four square ikeevsky forms (15, 2x15.2cm) can no longer be delivered. Eh, sorry ... she's so pretty
The last straw was yesterday's rolls in the airfryer - it just emulated the "upper heating element + convection" mode. If you load in our way (remember the movie "Vovka in the Far-Away Kingdom", how he baked pies), then the bottom comes out raw. Maybe I'm just not used to the "top" heating? I have used an electric oven only a few times, before that - only gas. It seems to me that the main thing is to warm up the baking sheet and bake the liquid filling, and making the pie a crust is a simple matter. In general, I'm going to buy a "galvanized bucket" with heating elements and a motor. I reassure myself that she is not like the others. As the saying goes: if you cannot change the situation, change your attitude towards it
Omela
Quote: OksanaD

apparently need to call to find out
OksanaD , thanks for the help! I called - no. They say in a month. Will wait. If suddenly someone sees in stock - whistle, pzhl !!!!
Whymuchka
Quote: Omela

Whymuchka , but do not tell me where?
Looked, here is eating
but in this store I took both of my Rollsen, I would rather order from them, maybe it's not so long?
The only thing that seems to me that the price was less, but since I did not take 30 liters, I will not say for sure.
Hopefully the inactive links won't hurt.
Omela
Quote: Why Much

The only thing that seems to me that the price was less,
Whymuchka , Thank you! the price is really 2 times less for white !!! The color is not important for me to pay so much I will wait.
Rita
Quote: *** yana ***

Omela
Rita are there any nuances.? Well, there, according to the baking time (add / subtract), the volume is just small, I have not come across such a thing ... or maybe there are some other secrets? Does everything revolve on baked goods?
As with any other oven, you need to adjust. But my temperature is reflected quite accurately. The oven can be done without rotation by removing the plate. The middle is the last to bake. Sometimes it burns the edges.
OksanaD
Quote: Omela

Whymuchka , Thank you! the price is really 2 times less for white !!! The color is not important for me to overpay so much I will wait.

I bought for 2560. and now I saw it in the technopark for more than 4! broke the price after the new year, in December they had the same as everyone else - an average of 2,700.so look for this price, don't pay 4,000 - it's already audacity to break such prices
Gibus
Quote: *** yana ***

IRR I meant that there is a combination microwave .. it has an upper grill and convection ... people don't need it, they can give it to me ... so I'm interested ... on this combination (upper grill + convection), the oven is really normal biscuits and yeast dough? and I don't need a microwave by itself ...

It all depends on how convection is implemented in this mic. If it has its own heating element (around the fan in the back wall), the oven is possible. If convection is just a fan that disperses the heat from the upper heater (grill) - a dead issue ... I have one, so I know what I'm talking about. Meat and chicken are great when baking, but not baking. After many attempts, I still bought a cheap mini-oven for baking.
*** yana ***
Quote: Gibus

It all depends on how convection is implemented in this mic. If it has its own heating element (around the fan in the back wall), the oven is possible. If convection is just a fan that disperses the heat from the upper heater (grill) - a dead number ... I have one, so I know what I'm talking about. Meat and chicken are great when baking, but not baking. After many attempts, I still bought a cheap mini-oven for baking.
: (so, after all, there is no point in getting in touch .... I looked at her today .. DEU KOS 960R everything works .... but she is so dry !!! mother dear ... first scrub her off and wash her for a week. .. may not contact her ... now there is no extra space in the kitchen ...
Gibus
Quote: *** yana ***

DEU KOS 960R everything works .... but she is so dry !!! mother dear ... first scrub her, wash her for a week ... maybe not mess with her ... now there is no extra space in the kitchen ...

Here I have just a DEU (it seems KOS985). She is 13 years old, works great, looks like new! I make chicken on a spit only in it (on convection). In general, everything that is not from the test turns out great ...
So, I love her dearly, but I don't recommend it for baking, it's checked.
Oca
Quote: Omela

This is kapets !!!
Fuck ... I'm sorry! I don't even know how to help ... They say that heating elements are not repaired. Maybe just the contact in the knob-switch is gone? This is the best variant.
And I came again with my questions. It's not my destiny to buy a stove, sellers don't answer, I'm looking for a replacement. IN luxell LX-3540 has convection or not
Whymuchka
Quote: Omela

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA !!!! The big oven is broken !!!
Omela, I sympathize!
But, there is also a good point - there will be a new oven.
Start choosing!
I like my Rollsen at 25.
*** yana ***
the heating elements are not repaired, they just change .... they take out and put another one .. or maybe the contact is all the same? at least repairs will be cheaper than a new stove ...
Omela
That who knows .. There is a heating oil on top - it heats up, and below it is probably inside. And the bottom does not warm at all. switch one. In general, all in frustrated feelings!
*** yana ***
well, there the case is removed and onward .... true, if there are houses to whom this is known ... and so, probably for repairs ...they are doing fast now ...
well, all the festive mood is in the ten, so that he can earn again ...
Omela
Thank you, Yana. I looked, really there are some screws ... But I'm afraid it will turn out like paint disassemble and discard. Yes, with the mood of course the seams .. Tomorrow I'll look in the internet, what's with the prices for ovens.
*** yana ***
calm, only calm (c)
This is how I disassembled the water heater ... I disassembled it, pulled out the heating element (it is almost a meter long) and bought a new one, but how to assemble it, I decided to invite the master, just in case .... the heating elements themselves are inexpensive and whatever you want with a shaft ... and I also have a stove I thought to buy .. but anyhow what I don't want, but what I want is the price of kusaitz
Whymuchka
Quote: Omela

But what about the rolls ???

Everything is fine with rolls.
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
Here, the other day I baked, while I fought for buns on the first (I didn't even have time to take a picture!), A large form, the second got a little hot.
The stove is lower than the Rollsen 26, but wider.
Buns with cream - eat your mind.
*** yana ***
Quote: Why Much

Everything is fine with rolls.
Here, the other day I baked, while I fought for buns on the first (I didn't even have time to take a picture!), A large form, the second got a little hot.
The stove is lower than the Rollsen 26, but wider.
Buns with cream - eat your mind.
I ask you to clarify ... those buns with cream were baked in what and in what way?
Whymuchka
Quote: *** yana ***

I ask you to clarify ... those buns with cream were baked in what and in what way?
The recipe was taken somewhere here, but the link was not saved.
Called - Filled Buns.
The buns are filled with whipped cream and baked.

Maybe look for a search?
Happened!

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=28010.0;wap2
*** yana ***
WhymuchkaI was interested in WHAT was baked? in the microwave? if there, then in what way: by microwaves or a combined method or something else? a plate under the buns, it looks like a microwave oven (or is it a detachable bottom.)? ..

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