Nevushka
pushkar, Yuri, I have (Simfer oven) wavy lines indicate grill.
pushkar
Quote: Nevushka

pushkar, Yuri, I have (Simfer oven) wavy lines indicate grill.
That is, on the straight lines we bake, and on the wavy grill, so there is tempera. the regime should be less, so.
Mirabel
Vera, and what kind of Simfer do you have? do you like
we also saw such a company on sale.
Nevushka
Mirabel, I have M4279, I like it, but I had to get used to it after a big oven. But I think this is not a feature of this stove, but in general mini-ovens, because of that the shadows are located closer to the food, at first it was that the top-bottom was baked, but the middle was not.
The company is Turkish, which surprised me very much when everything around is from China. Assembled well. Many modes. Includes wire rack, baking sheet and large round shape (30-32cm).





pushkar, I will not say about the temperature of the stoves with programs, because I have it set manually.
Mirabel
Vera, Yes Yes! it is a Turkish company. I saw them in the shop of the Turks.
but how did you adapt to this problem? did you change the pace in the process?
Darkfly
Can you please tell me if the walls of the rommelsbacher 1550 are hot? The description says as much as the meter should be on top, and I have a hinged cabinet of 15 cm.I ordered, now I'm thinking about where to put
Darkfly
Finally they brought me a mini-stove! The agony of choice is over! Thanks to all members of the forum for the tips)))
velli
pushkar,Yuri, I looked at your stove in the store where you ordered, and even a video review was presented by one cook. The stove is very good and I liked everything about it. Except for the inner cover of the stove. It is metallic, not enameled, which is very difficult to wash off splashes when cooking grilled chicken or frying kebabs on skewers. She herself faced this when she had a Delta 024 oven with a spit. It was stressful to wash after cooking, although at the bottom under the shades, I always slipped the foil and put a baking sheet to collect the fat. The walls were washed more easily, but the bottom is where the shadows are .... Maybe here the coating is completely different and it is much easier to wash.
ykolov
Good day, evening, morning everyone! The agony of choice exhausted me completely (I need an oven for baking bread and a summer residence, in the warm season all weekends there is not enough time to bake sourdough bread in the middle of the week, if you sleep, of course) At first I wanted to buy an inexpensive combi oven, but now I doubt it, because there is only convection. I bake in the oven on a stone in the top-bottom mode, I'm afraid the convection will dry out the bread. Now I'm looking at ovens like Rommelsbacher BG 1805 / E, but now I'm thinking, will she bake me bread in three forms L6 at the same time? At home there is an ordinary built-in aeg, the simplest model and I have enough of it, but I don’t want to buy such a shed for a summer residence) Tell me what kind people are. I am interested in options for the simultaneous preparation of exactly three loaves or three loaves, pies and muffins, and I manage to bake after work. I even watched how to fold the Pompeian oven, but all the videos and articles about its use only with pizza and blunders) well, this is to the point that I have already changed my mind.
Ummka
This is a complete kaput. The Brand stove 3601 disappeared from the sale. I bought it 4 years ago and served me faithfully. And a year ago, my grandmother caught fire to buy a roster, and while we were renovating I gave her my stove to "try" it. Well, do not take away the child's favorite toy now ..... There was EVERYTHING that was needed. And the lighting, and the temperature, and convection with the possibility of switching off, and the stoves worked simultaneously with the oven, and the size of 30L, and the grill / spit / tray for crumbs .... Girls, I almost sob. Where can I find such a miracle now?
Igrig
Quote: Ummka
Girls, I almost cry. Where can I find such a miracle now?
Don't cry!
Oursson MO3020 / DC has it all. Of course, maybe there is no double glass, although was it in Brand?
There are no hotplates. But for this it is better to have a separate hotplate, preferably induction!
And Oursson MO3020 / DC is also a beauty, which is important.
Ummka
That's the trick, that there was EVERYTHING .... I thought I'd buy a second one, then we'll move out of our dormitory and take her to the dacha. Now you have to look at the oven separately and then leave it in the new apartment. Then I would like 35-40 liters (I have gigantomania, hotz cakes)))).
Thank you. I got upset, of course. I called the company, they said it was taken out of production, as unprofitable




In general, through a long search and screening, the following were selected:
- Supra MTS-382 (it lacks backlight)
- Rolsen KW-3026 HP (no timer)
- Smile TKO-1016 (either burners or oven work)
- Mystery MOT-3330 (also no backlight)
Supra has the largest oven - 38L. Maybe hi with her, backlit? I will walk with a flashlight
And Smile has a temperature of 40'C and a timer for 120 minutes. But I cook everything at the same time ...
I will think until September ...
Mila56
Quote: Ummka
Rolsen KW-3026 HP (no timer)
If everything else suits .. then an electronic timer will help. I myself use the electronic timer, only for other purposes, let's say I'll brew tea for myself and in order not to forget sitting at the computer I put a timer next to it, conveniently. but is there enough power with the simultaneous operation of the top (pancakes) and the oven and how the oven will behave at the same time





Quote: Ummka
But I cook everything at the same time ...
We need something more powerful and impressive.





Quote: Mila56
We need something more powerful and impressive.
Although the power may be enough, but how the stove will behave with the simultaneous operation of all modes At us at work there is a tabletop tile for two burners, so the white paint that covers the tile at the top has shrunk all from high temperatures. Not aesthetically pleasing and not washed through. And then, whether, for example, Rolsen KW-3026 HP (weight 7 kg) will withstand the weight of two full pots standing on top, and a baking sheet inside. I am not discouraging, at the very Rolsen 3026 only without the top pancakes, just thoughts ...
Ummka
Rolsen seems to be good for everyone, but .... I can forget to set the electronic timer too. And so it just turns off and that's all (which is what Brand liked)




Quote: Mila56
At our work, there is a tabletop tile for two burners, so the white paint that covers the tile at the top is all shriveled up from high temperatures. Not aesthetically pleasing and not washed through.
Supra has no enamel, ordinary stainless steel. From my experience with Brand, this is ideal for this technique. It is easily cleaned and does not deteriorate like enamels. The girls-neighbors (they saw enough of me and bought themselves the same, only enamel, something like Dream, Delongy, etc. - a terrible look in six months even on black surfaces. I walked my Brandik with a metal washcloth and he is like new )




Quote: Mila56
Although the power may be enough, but how will the stove behave when all modes work simultaneously
I'm starting to lean towards Supra, as an economy option with subsequent export to the dacha) There are 3300 relics - enough to work both pancakes and the oven.




Wow, but if you take a permanent oven (as an alternative to the built-in one), then I here "found" a Rommelsbacher BG 1805 / E mini-oven This will be my dream, I feel
Darkfly
Good luck with your choice!
Mila56
Quote: Ummka
ordinary stainless steel. From my experience with Brand, this is ideal for this technique.
Precisely, ideally when it is stainless steel.
Quote: Ummka
There relics 3300
Wow. It is more impressive in weight. I just didn't understand if convection works there by default, or it can still be turned off if necessary ..., for example, for a biscuit ...




Quote: Ummka
Rommelsbacher BG 1805 / E mini oven
The body is made of stainless steel ... but the color is black .... means the body is painted ..
Ummka
Quote: Mila56
The body is made of stainless steel ... but the color is black .... then the body is painted .. [/ quote
Quote: Mila56
Wow. It is more impressive in weight. I just didn't understand if convection works there by default, or it can still be turned off if necessary ..., for example, for a biscuit ...
I am a losharik, I baked a charlotte with convection (is she a biscuit?) - she was gorgeous




Quote: Mila56
The body is made of stainless steel ... but the color is black .... means the body is painted ..
If there are no burners, the coating becomes uncritical
Mila56
Quote: Ummka
I baked charlotte with convection (is it a biscuit?)
For a biscuit, the protein must be whipped to peaks, and in a charlotte it is possible without peaks.






Quote: Ummka
she was gorgeous
It is most important.
marishka
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Thank you all for Temko !!!! With your help, overcoming a bunch of doubts, I bought the AVEX TY350BСL Mini-oven.
ABOUT! Please write more about her I keep looking at her, but we don't have them anywhere, do not look
AnyaAnechka
Hello, I want to buy a mini oven or oven with a convention and steam, I found a Panasonic, but it is small for 15 liters, maybe someone else knows what?
Doxie
Hello, again I am tormented by choice.

Tell me, are the walls of Shteba very hot? What are their main advantages?

I like SIMFER M3617, but they just write about it that it gets very hot. And it is not clear what is with the glass - double or not ...
pushkar
Quote: Doxie

Hello, again I am tormented by choice.

Tell me, are the walls of Shteba very hot? What are their main advantages?

I like SIMFER M3617, but they just write about it that it gets very hot. And it is not clear what is with the glass - double or not ...
I think almost all furnaces are heated up to 10000r
I took Gemlux and it also heats up, but not critical, but everyone else likes it.




Here I recently took two additional options, suitable for any desktop ovens.
Drum and option for kebabs. For kebabs, just great - I make wings and hips, legs, and meat. 9 skewers. Suitable for any stove, just insert a standard pin. But I don’t know where the drum is. written for nuts and the like.
Tabletop ovens, stoves ....Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
knoxx
Tell the members of the forum, I took the stove for my beloved wife Moulinex OX485832, is there any news about her?
Roman80
Good day everyone! I am writing just in case - maybe someone will come in handy in choosing. I have been choosing the oven for a week. Consider inexpensive, but with convection, grill - skewer. And here AVEX stoves are well represented. I was almost inclined to buy AVEX TR 300 BCL. But I noticed in time that the TR series (the last series) has the lowest possible temperature of only 100 degrees. The previous TY series (some members of the forum have these ovens) - it was possible to set the temperature below 100 degrees - there the adjustment spun smoothly from zero. This is important for me, so I will order something from the "outdated" series - for example, AVEX TY280BСL. Some stores still have them in stock.
AnyaAnechka
Hello! I have also been choosing a stove for a month, which I have not tried, but in the end I stopped at the choice ELECTRIC FURNACE SFORNATUTTO MAXI DO 32852, BLACK, DE'LONGHI, but there was another problem in my usual shops, it is not (mvideo, eldorado ..) in there is no official store either, there are in some online stores, but they are not familiar to me, I'm afraid to buy. Can anyone recommend a shop, please respond.
Igrig
Quote: pushkar
But I don’t know where the drum is. written for nuts and the like.
Somewhere I read in reviews about such stoves that potatoes are baked in large slices "in a village style." It should be delicious.
I myself have such a thing in the stove, but I have not used it yet.
I’ll go to the dacha and try to make it out of my own potatoes!
velli
What a fine fellow you are! You have the opportunity to cook kebabs, wings and other goodies! You can't cook this in my Simfer 4597! the size is not the same for such a gadget. Write what else you could cook.
pushkar
Quote: Igrig

Somewhere I read in reviews about such stoves that potatoes are baked in large slices "in a village style." It should be delicious.
I myself have such a thing in the stove, but I have not used it yet.
I'll go to the dacha - I'll try to make it out of my own potatoes!
I tried to make fries, from potato cubes, they stick to the sides of the drum. We have to stop. and shake off.




Quote: velli

What a fine fellow you are! You have the opportunity to cook kebabs, wings and other goodies! You can't cook this in my Simfer 4597! the size is not the same for such a gadget. Write what else you could cook.
I think it will suit you.The standard rod is used.
He made sausages, sausages, kupaty.
velli
Quote: pushkar
I think it will suit you. The standard rod is used. Made sausages, sausages, kupaty
Yuri, how will it work if there are no holes where this gizmo is inserted and due to what the drum or shashlik maker will rotate?
pushkar
Quote: velli
Yuri, how will it work if there are no holes where this gizmo is inserted and due to what the drum or shashlik maker will rotate?
Well, of course, rather you don't have the rotating device itself, then you're out of luck.
Alena Besha
Quote: Ummka
Girls, I almost cry. Where can I find such a miracle now?
I myself look closely at the tabletop oven (gas in a rented apartment, not good). Anna, take a closer look at this model - very good reviews about it. There is a 30L model, there is also a 23.Gfgril GFO-30 Grill Plus mini oven
Mila56
Quote: Alena Besha
There is a 30L model, and there is also a 23.Gfgril GFO-30 Grill Plus mini oven
At 23 liters of volume, now I looked at the review here

... It is not clear only how convection works there, in the sense of how and when it can be turned on and off. Either convection is on by default in all modes, but no, not like that. After all, there the control knob can be put on the convection icon (it is), but this same knob sets the tenth cooking mode. If you put this knob on the upper and lower shades, then at the same time you cannot put it on convection. Therefore, it is not clear to me how convection works in a 23-liter stove.
But in the stove for 30 liters, I understand everything. The outside and the control panel looks exactly the same as in my Rolsen KW-3026 stove

🔗

I'm happy with my stove. And since the functionality of the GFgril GFO-30 Grill Plus mini-stove is absolutely identical, I would choose it, and not 23 liters.
pushkar
Quote: Mila56
I'm happy with my stove. And since the functionality of the GFgril GFO-30 Grill Plus mini-stove is absolutely identical, I would choose it, and not 23 liters.
I would also take 30 liters. The volume reserve will not hurt.
Convection is on mode. two tenes, just like that. Here is the instruction. The oven is good. I like. 🔗
Mila56
Yuri, looked at the instruction now. Yes, it turns out that in the mode of the included upper and lower shades, it can work both with and without blowing. This is good, of course. But with a large volume, of course, it is better.
pushkar
Quote: Mila56

Yuri, looked at the instruction now. Yes, it turns out that in the mode of the included upper and lower shades, it can work both with and without blowing. This is good, of course. But with more volume, of course, better.
That's right, right.
I have a question too.
There are 2 paral pictograms in my stove. strips are tens.
and 2 parallels. wavy lines are that. written grill. but the same shades work. That they do not go to another way of generating heat.
Mila56
Quote: pushkar
and 2 parallels. wavy lines are that. written grill. but the same shadows work
Grilling is the work (heating) of the upper ten. Or I didn't understand the question Now I'll look at the stove, otherwise I forgot
I looked. You have this stove

She has gorgeous functionality. And what kind of wavy lines we are talking about, I didn’t understand where they are depicted, under the glass on the left I didn’t understand what else we were talking about ...




Quote: pushkar
That they do not go to another way of generating heat.
Where do these conclusions come from?





Quote: pushkar
2 parallels wavy lines are that.
This is an indication that there is convection in the oven, i.e. forced air ventilation ??
pushkar
Quote: Mila56
No, it's not like that. The oven is that. there's a big switch down there. This is a choice of shades. lower. ten-top ten- both tena-
on them there is a pictogram of 2 lines, which are shown. that these are shadows.
Then you turn this handle and the same programs go, only wavy lines light up instead of dashes.
2 tenaTabletop ovens, stoves ...
1 tenTabletop ovens, stoves ...
But 2 shadows are indicated by a wavy line.Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
1 wavy top. Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
there is no one line below.
A krnvektsiya incl. separate button on the right (there are 3 buttons) independently.
Mila56
Quote: pushkar
But 2 shadows are indicated by a wavy line.
But is it not so that this program (when the switch is on two wavy lines) with the work of two tendes, but convection in this program is turned on by default (in automatic mode, whether we want it or not.), I.e. That is, although we do not turn on convection with a separate button, but it will work. There are several automatic programs in this stove, this can be seen from the review I inserted. After all, something happens in it and how does it work when the lower switch is on two wavy lines and the start button is pressed
pushkar
The point is, until incl. button conv. noise from the valve. no, that is, it doesn't work.
I want to say that there is noise, but when switching. programmatically at any position, no noise.
Mila56
Quote: pushkar
not yet incl. button conv. noise from the valve. no, that is, it doesn't work.
I want to say that there is noise, but when switching. programmatically at any position, no noise.
Yes, just a riddle with these hieroglyphs
pushkar
Quote: Mila56

Yes, just a riddle with these hieroglyphs
Let's wait, can anyone have such a stove and know what these icons are.
Miloslava
Good time everyone! I really want to buy a desktop oven. Reviewed a lot and dizzy. Liked a few. But most of all Delta 0-025 with a barbecue grill. Does anyone have a Delta? I would like forty liters. Maybe someone will tell you which one to buy so that it is both inexpensive and cheerful.




Wrong Delta D-025A
Lanko
pushkar, Yuri, you have 8 programs and the last ones are not clear? Here's what I found:
You can choose from 8 cooking modes:

- upper and lower heating (the temperature of the upper and lower heating elements is regulated within 30-230 ° C, by default the temperature of the upper heating element is 35 ° C, of ​​the lower one - 225 ° C),
- upper heating (the temperature of the upper heating element is regulated within the range of 30-180 ° C, by default - 150 ° C),
- lower heating (the temperature of the lower heating element is regulated within 30-200 ° C, by default - 180 ° C),
- fermentation (the temperature of the lower heating element is regulated in the range of 30-45 ° C, by default - 35 ° C),
- preparation of yogurt (the temperature of the lower heating element is regulated within 42-45 ° C, by default - 42 ° C),
- upper heating (the temperature of the upper heating element is regulated within the range of 50-180 ° C, by default - 160 ° C),
- upper and lower heating (the temperature of the upper and lower heating elements is regulated within the range of 50-230 ° C, by default - 180 ° C),
- user program (upper and lower heating is adjustable within 30-230 ° C).
It turns out the difference with the previous ones in the default temperature and / or range. But it is not entirely clear why there are separate programs for this. I guess I got it wrong after all.
I have been looking closely at the stove since your first message about it ... The question arose: Did you look with a thermometer, how the temperature is gaining / keeping?
pushkar
Quote: Lanko

pushkar, Yuri, you have 8 programs and the last ones are not clear? Here's what I found: It turns out the difference with the previous ones in the default temperature and / or the range of change. But it is not entirely clear why there are separate programs for this. I guess I got it wrong after all.
I have been looking closely at the stove since your first message about it ... The question arose: Did you look with a thermometer, how the temperature is gaining / keeping?
The oven is just great. There is nothing in it that I do not like. I would like a second baking sheet, but ..
What you wrote, I didn’t understand why. It's all written in the passport.
The question is that the shades are the same, but the pictograms on them are different. why. maybe some other principle of heat delivery or they work according to a different principle, but inside they remain the same on all programs.
In terms of temperature, they are all regulated from 30 grams. by the way in the program. fermentation costs 35g. for the test, this is a lot, I put 30 and it holds perfectly, tested it in all modes, holds + - 5-10 grams for all. on some it definitely holds.
And at 230 gr. with 2 tenths, it went up to 260g, which is just fine.
The fact is that these wavy pictograms are described in the passport as a grill.
At 2x, you can increase the temperature, and if you put the top of the pict. wavy line, then the temperature is not set above 180g. Crammed programmatically.
Lanko
Yuri, thank you. Really poorly understood, and even dimly wrote ... But I received a clear answer to my question!
pushkar
Quote: Lanko

Yuri, thank you. Really poorly understood, and even dimly wrote ... But I received a clear answer to my question!
everything turned out to be very simple. The pictogram designation is Grill.
Pusena
Good day! Tell me a hundred, than you wash your stoves. I have a Rolsen KW-3026 model, I haven't used it for 4 months, but now I have changed the furniture in the kitchen. I did not order an oven, I will use this oven instead. And on top there are small spots, I would like to clean it off. And only then wash after each preparation.
Mila56
Today I made a cake, baked dough for it in my desktop oven. Dough for only 2 eggs with the addition of cocoa.




Tabletop ovens, stoves ... First, I baked such a cake in the oven.




Tabletop ovens, stoves ... I cut the cake and smeared it with cream. And here's the result.




Tabletop ovens, stoves ... The day before yesterday I bought a Philips HR7762 combine, and I tested it in operation, kneaded the dough in it, and the cream too.
Bijou
Eh ... Either my handles are crooked, or I don't know what ... I bake the same dough every day, alternately in different ovens - an old (and rather budgetary) built-in Electrolux and a Turkish-made tabletop oven.)) I don't remember it, but the stove is like a stove. There is no convection, but I hardly use it in the Suite either.

So that's it.
The bread turns out to be fundamentally different. And the pies too. No, it rises well and blushes too. Even too much, I would say. But still, the taste and smell are very different, and not in favor of the baby. I suspect that the matter is in the less tightness of the chamber and a very low vault, which is why the top-bottom differs too much from the sides. A hearth loaf for a pound of flour stably breaks on a light side, and I'm afraid to even try to use a mold.

Now we are planning to buy additional clinker tiles to bake mini-bags. Well, in general, find the same niche where such an oven has strengths. Cookies, or something, try ... And also heat the cast-iron duck, where to flop the distant bread. Well, there must be at least something good in it!
Mila56
Quote: Bijou
A hearth loaf for a pound of flour stably breaks on a light side
Lena, was the temperature mode tested in a tabletop oven? The stove may be raising the temperature. My stove definitely overestimates by 30-35 degrees. In this case, it must be set with an error correction. It tears the dough not only because of the oven. Possible reasons include a large amount of yeast (but if everything is fine according to the same recipe in a large oven, then yeast is not to blame). You can also sprinkle a savory bread piece with water (it is recommended to do this in all ovens where there is no steam), before putting it in the oven (any oven). Although I'm not a bread pro, so, a little theory.

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