Larssevsk
2keda, let this be your last unsuccessful purchase
2keda
Larssevsk, thanks of course.

With this oven, I got stuck for the first time, all the equipment that I bought works and does not cause trouble.

DEDICATED TO EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ENOUGH THE BACKLIGHT IN THE OVEN.

Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

I, this lamp, bought in the Metro, "All 49".

I bought it for a laptop, but it is clear that for 50 re, a good thing will not be sold. Here is a use.

I am sure that in any city, everyone will find something similar and will be happy.

Here, I forgot, in the photo, on the crumb tray, you can see some spots. This is after washing with Shumanit. On the walls where the coating is present, this is not. It turns out that zinc has no coating on the pallet. Everyone will draw conclusions for himself. I have removed this device further.
2keda
Quote: igorechek
Quote from: Manatee on 03 March 2014, 18:59
Boys and girls, I'll duplicate my question: How does convection affect biscuit baking? And does it affect at all?

Our wife is mainly engaged in baking. But it is clear that you do not need to turn the baking sheet when cooking) from the glass to the back wall).
Baked more evenly. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=9411.0

Figu there, fries at the back wall stronger, especially noticeable on bread, such as for toast. The sensor is located strictly in the center of the camera, under the "ceiling".
Lady di
Oh, and I became the happy owner of Deksyushka 420
Beauty, but of course rather weak during convection ...
lemona
Good day!
For a week I have been wooling this topic in search of a stove. But here everyone is writing about big ovens. And we need two people with small appetites and a small kitchen.
I chose, of course, Steba KB 19.

If there are owners of this oven here? If there is, tell me pliz:
1. Does it still have a backlight? (on all sites it is indicated that there is, but here someone wrote that not)
2. Is it possible to bake cookies-pies comfortably there? Or just for meat, etc.
3. Is there any alternative with a smaller volume? I would like it to be small, but at the same time, so that you can bake all kinds of baked goods. Well, backlighting is also desirable. And, I would also like good quality)

Thanks to everyone who will tell you! I’ve already broken my whole head
Masinen
lemona
Quote: Masinen

lemona, here is the topic for the Stob stoves
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379063.0

Thank you, for sure, in this thread and saw about the discrepancy between the description and reality. I'll go ask about the 19 model again

But I have rather a general question, if there is still no backlight at 19.

If we take small oven, 10-14 liters, will it be possible to bake cookies-pies in it? Still, 19 liters is too much for me, I think. And owners of small stoves, share / recommend a model to have a backlight and normal quality?
In Yandex Market I cannot find such a stove for the required parameters, but here they write only about large stoves.
Lady di
maybe I just can't imagine the size, it seems to me that the top or bottom of the baked goods will burn in a small stove and the middle will not bake a lot ... although maybe I'm not right
lemona
Quote: Lady Di

maybe I just can't imagine the size, it seems to me that the top or bottom of the baked goods will burn in a small stove and the middle will not bake a lot ... although maybe I'm not right

So I'm afraid of that.
Lady di
I would advise you all the same to take a size greater than 10 liters. so that the oven is more functional ... and not just for mini-baking ... what if you want to bake a cake or a chicken chicken ... or something in the sleeve ... nevertheless, in my opinion, 10l is like for hot sandwiches ....
in small ovens I just looked up to 23-24 cm in height (13-14 liters, respectively - these are Delongy, which are backlit ... and in terms of quality, the Delongy seems not bad, but expensive) ... remove another and another minus 5cm on top and bottom and get the inner size between the upper and lower tenns ... it seems to me this is too small .. and the tenns will fry very much, like for baking .... baked from the inside - it will bake, but the crust will burn ... This is my personal subjective opinion
lemona
Lady di, thanks a lot for the advice. I was just looking at Delongy, at 14 liters.
Now I'm starting to think about Shteba again, I've already looked after the 20 liter model KB 27, there internal dimensions: 30.5 x 24.0 x 29.5 cm (W x H x D). Probably, it will be the most for baking.True reviews for this particular model have not been seen anywhere)

And there the timer is only for 60 minutes, this will not be enough, right?
Lady di
Personally, such a timer is not enough for me ... although ... if a dish needs to be cooked for more than an hour, you can always turn the timer for the missing time, 120 minutes for me is a lot .. little is cooked as much ... but 90 minutes is just right for me ... (I have 120)
lemona
Lady di, I understood, you helped me a lot!
Vinnitsa
Quote: CurlySue

I carry my first report on the Dex 420 stove.

The first dish in it is "tender" pies:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=99.0

My pies:
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

and the oven itself:

Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Overall, I am very happy.
I bought it 3 days ago. I liked the Dex 420 electric stove very much, I am glad that I chose it. Roomy. Beautiful. It looks strict and stylish. Do not compare with "buckets" of 300-500 UAH, which look like children's toy tiles. Volumetric. You can freely bake on 2 levels at the same time. There are 2 baking trays in the set - and this was one of the most important selection criteria for me, because I often bake, and while 1 portion of pies is suitable and baked - you are already putting the second portion for proofing. In addition, you can cook 2 different dishes in parallel.
Pros: Bulky. Beautiful. Stylish. The set includes 2 trays and a wire rack, as well as handles for easy and safe removal of trays from a hot oven.
Cons: Convection is weak, when compared with stationary electric stoves with convection - open the door - from there a powerful stream of warm air. There is also a tiny fan, it seems that she is here just for show or beauty.
I just compare it with my former Indesit stove, which, alas, I had to leave on the sold apartment a year ago - buyers asked to sell, so that they would not be fooled and not ordered ...
It is clear that one should not expect a super-powerful air flow from a compact oven. But even a tiny fan, barely spinning, in my opinion, in Dex does not do any weather at all.

Lena, you have been using the stove for almost a year. Are you satisfied? Discovered the cons? I choose between this model and the DTO 280, I can't decide.
Lady di
I also chose between them - in the end I chose 420 ... because there is no backlight in 280, there is no defrost function, and the difference in price on the outlet is about 200 UAH.
And in 420 there is still the opportunity to fry on 2 trays at the same time ... and the view is prettier.
Vinnitsa
Quote: Lady Di

I also chose between them - in the end I chose 420 ... because there is no backlight in 280, there is no defrost function, and the difference in price on the outlet is about 200 UAH.
And in 420 there is still the opportunity to fry on 2 trays at the same time ... and the view is prettier.
Thanks for the advice! And what kind of quartz heaters does the manufacturer mention? Or are they ordinary there, but about quartz - a publicity stunt?
Lady di
Fair? I don't even know what kind of heaters there are ... 4 sticks - 2 on top and 2 on the bottom .... when the red ones work ... but they heat up very quickly
lemona
After much torment and excel tablets, I ordered a stove!))
Steba KB 23 Eco Let's see what kind of Eco is there that is a thousand more expensive than usual. Well, very few 23 in stores
Thanks to everyone who wrote reviews, they helped a lot

I went to wool recipes
leeka
selenа, Nadezhda, please tell me, is the top of the Rommelbacher hotter?
selenа
leeka, I think that not much, I have polyethylene on top.hot substrate, I forgot to remove it many times, at first I was afraid that it would melt and ruin the stove on top, but now I am not afraid of that either
leeka
Thank you, now it remains to choose, the model 1650 is beautiful and the handles are recessed A 1805 and 1550 are more compact ...
selenа
leeka, yes 1650 is a beauty, it is more wide and less in height, 1805 is almost square. I am very pleased with my successful choice, it bakes very well and quickly
leeka
Hope, what tilted you in the direction of 1805? I don’t know, nobody had 1650, suddenly something will be wrong with her, but a beautiful infection, but it takes up more space. Straight brains are already boiling
selenа
leekawhen I bought, in the summer, 1650 was not yet on sale, and I urgently needed an oven, of course, it has a more modern design, and mine is simple
leeka
Nadezhda, thanks for the help. How to decide and buy, I will definitely report back
selenа
leeka,
Ofa
Quote: IraPoma
if not sec More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=9411.0ret, where and how much did you order?
I apologize for making me wait for an answer for so long :(, I bought the 10th dimension in the store. They didn’t deceive, indeed, 6 modes for 4500, even with aprons as a gift. but the pizza is huge :)!
Miss-s
It is finished))) My torments of choice are over, tomorrow the courier will bring my stove. Stopped at Rommelsbacher 1550 for 30 liters. I was more inclined from the beginning to the staff 28, but was confused by the "holes in the top of the timber and that on the side." It's a pity that there is nowhere to see, to touch. therefore I chose purely from the pictures on the Internet)
Of course, 1650 is generally beautiful and large, but in Belarus it is offered for almost 400 dollars, which is expensive for me. I took 1550, it is less than -30 liters, the price is 2 times lower, it is square in shape, so I hope that the pies will not burn - the distance between the shadows is good, and the chicken on the spit should fit well (so far my conclusions are purely theoretical).
And who is on the forum today, how to check the stove (with a courier)? Complete set + ext. Defects. How about the modes?
selenа
Miss-s, I especially did not bother with checking, I checked the complete set and turned it on for heating, for any there is a guarantee and if anything, it is not a problem to hand it over. But I have a very favorable impression of communicating with my oven, I think you will be fine and you will become friends
Miss-s
Selena, thank you answer))) Itself in anticipation. In the morning I'll marinate the chicken and I will look forward to the courier.
Katyanasevere
selenа, Miss-s, girls! I just want to buy Rommelbachen 1650. You do not know, is the height of 1550 and 1650 the same? And if you turn on convection at 230 degrees, then the temperature will approach 250? 250 I need as the initial heat when baking sourdough rye bread.
I would be very grateful to everyone for your advice! This stove caught fire, but 230 is not enough. Steb also has 230 - the maximum.
selenа
Katyanasevere, their height is approximately the same, but I can't say about the temperature, I bake bread at 200 degrees, I can turn on 230 if I need to brown something, I've seen enough of Sergey (Bread & Bread) ovens for baking bread and I think that any homemade the oven is a compromise.
Katyanasevere
selenа, Thank you! Yes, Sergei has such ovens that he can only dream)
Probably it will work out well with convection, a crust forms faster, and then reduce it to 200 and turn off the wind, let it bother)
Lettera
Quote: Miss-s
stem 28, but confused by "holes in the top of the wood and what is on the side."
These holes do not lead to the inside of the stove, but between the glasses so that the outside does not heat up
Lisichkalal
I ordered myself a Delongee 32752
32 liters
135 euros
Hope we'll be friends)
Miss-s
Quote: Lettera
These holes do not lead to the inside of the stove, but between the glasses so that the outside does not heat up

Yeah, I thought about it too, but later))

But still very happy with my stove purchased)) Already made friends .. well, almost .. By the way, baking in silicone (muffins) is better without convection. Convection really dries up) Or you need a combination of modes.
leeka
Well, while I was pondering, the Rommelbachers bought everything up. On one site they only promised that these stoves should come to them, but when it is not clear and the price will be more than 16 tyrs, Delongy has already ordered today. Also only on one site remained, but at least available. Rommelbacher was afraid to wait that I wouldn’t buy anything at all, and so for two weeks they had been feeding them promises. And then I bought the forms, but there is nowhere to bake, only on the pictures I drip saliva
selenа
leeka,
Quote: leeka
forms then bought
I also bought some forms, in these ovens the main thing is that they heat up instantly, Delongy should also be good, I hope you will make friends.
Lisichkalal
Delongee 32752 came to me today. 1 baking sheet and 2 wire racks included. Beautiful! I haven't cooked anything yet, but I'm still happy with the purchase.
leeka
I will report back quickly. She baked a gingerbread house. For my oven (Delongee 32752), I think I need to slightly reduce the degree or time. I took it out 20 minutes before the prescription is ready. The taste is extraordinary, but it didn't come out very well, the tip stuck (but not critical, but still, but I overexposed 15 minutes)
selenа
leeka, well done
leeka
And in this Temko I will report. This is the kind of bread that turned out in my Delongy (white table bread on a long dough according to Chuchelka's recipe)
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
I love my stove more and more. She baked meat with potatoes, lazy stuffed cabbage rolls according to Chuchelka's recipe, again (thanks again). I realized that it is better to bake everything with convection, then the top is not so reddened and a little less time, a trifle, but nice. I'm glad!
selenа
leeka, Katyusha, chic bread
leeka
Thank you, this is my first experience in the oven (before that, only in a multicooker I baked)
NataST
Happy owners of mini ovens, tell me, please - which model should you buy? The rented apartment has a disgusting oven in the stove. Biscuits, meringues and eclairs are not obtained at all. And since I'm a homemade pastry chef, it's a disaster I found out about the existence of such a miracle as a tabletop oven and caught fire. I'll read 90 pages, of course, but my favorites in this area have already appeared - experts and owners, share your opinion, please !!! The budget is up to a maximum of 8000, and as I understand it, the test needs convection? There has never been a stove with such a function, I do not know what kind of animal.
selenа
NataST, Natasha, there is a good online store "100 orders", there is a section - "oven baking ovens", study the assortment, professional and household ovens are offered, your case is special - you bake to order, and not just for yourself. For this reason, recommending to you something that suits me or any other hostess is not very correct, for many, the appearance of the stove is very important, how it will fit into the interior, etc., while in your place I would choose the best technical characteristics, and last of all, design (a rented apartment, and as a rule, professional stoves are not burdened with special beauty). Sorry for not being able to help
Lettera
Quote: selenа
there is a good online store "100 orders"
Did you buy something in it?
Omela
Quote: NataST
please tell me - which model should you buy?
Natasha, I have one. Verified. I advise.

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selenа
Lettera, no, I did not buy anything in it, I may not put it quite correctly, but I recommended it
Quote: selenа
explore the range, offered both professional and household stoves,
due to the fact that I have not seen such a large number of completely different ovens on the Internet, and most importantly, there are inexpensive professional ovens.
Lettera
selenа, clear. I just studied the unflattering reviews about him. I thought that maybe you bought there and you have a different experience, successful

NataST, do not take 23 liters, it is difficult for something high to bake. The people advised 42 liters.
I had 23 liters, but there was no room for 42, sometimes mine is "too small" for me

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