Bee
Bread maker Dual Home Baker TEFAL OW4002
2 containers: round (bread up to 1.0kg) and rectangular (bread up to 1.2kg)
13 programs on the control panel including Kulich programs: white bread, instant white bread, whole grain bread, French bread, butter bread, instant bread, muffin, cake, pasta, dough, jam, baking only
3 weights (750g, 1kg and 1.2kg)
3 crust colors (light / medium / dark)
Programmed start after 15 hours
7 minutes memory reserve in case of power failure
Electronic control panel
Power 680 W
Glass window
Non-stick tank coating
Graduated cup and measuring spoon

True, as is fashionable now, there is no programming function.

JFK
I don’t understand you! Yesterday you contacted the moderators because of two identical topics, and today you yourself have created a new, second topic.
Bee
Those themes were combined into one, because they were about one HP Tefal 4000, which is an exact copy of Moulinex. And this is a topic about the Tefal 4002 stove, which has a metal body, two buckets and the "Kulich" program
Do you see the difference?
JFK
Well flood so flood!

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look at this stove and show me the same Moulinex ???
Ow4000 and 4002 are identical stoves made for different markets. If you dig, then you will also find 4001 in other countries

Nod1
Better take the Binatone BM 2068 bread maker 🔗
Power 615 W

12 programs

Fully automatic bread making

Making jam

... Dough kneading

2 loaf sizes (750g and 900g)

Possibility to independently set the time of kneading, raising and baking

Selection of the degree of browning of the crust

The function of keeping the temperature for 1 hour

Delayed start up to 13 hours

Memory functions during power outage up to 10 minutes

LCD display with blue backlight

Touch control panel

Backlight inside the case

Removable non-stick baking dish

Non-heating stainless steel body

Protection against accidental activation

Non-slip feet

Viewing window

Measuring cup and spoon

Although there is no second bucket, which is needed for cake once a year, but it has touch control, glass, not plastic, like the TEFAL OW4002, a black lid, almost similar to the Kenwood BM 450, it is not clear who stole what from whom by design, and the price corresponds to the present moment in the conditions of the financial crisis
uhhaha
Tell me, does anyone know if there is an instruction for this bread maker? I am looking and I can not find, help me please!
sheva1977
Quote: uhhaha

Tell me, does anyone know if there is an instruction for this bread maker? I am looking and I can not find, help, please!
Good day! If the question is still relevant - here is the instruction
acura
Who uses this stove, please tell me, when baking bread, when the lid of the stove heats up, the plastic of the lid in the area of ​​the glass bends and a gap forms, and how is this eliminated?
Cook
Quote: acura

Who uses this stove, please tell me, when baking bread, when the lid of the stove heats up, the plastic of the lid in the area of ​​the glass bends and a gap forms, and how is this eliminated?

I have this stove. I am very pleased with her. I've never seen plastic bulging. The oven bakes well.
Tobrix
Hello everyone)
I ordered myself such a bread maker. I was more into a round shape)
Tell me if there are any features of this model that it is desirable to take into account before the first use, and in general about the pleasant and not very different Tefal.
Cook
Quote: Tobrix

Hello everyone)
I ordered myself such a bread maker. I was more into a round shape)
Tell me if there are any features of this model that it is desirable to take into account before the first use, and in general about the pleasant and not very different Tefal.

I use this stove. I can’t say anything negative about her. I am very pleased with her.
Tobrix
Quote: Cook

I use this stove.

I have already unpacked it, tomorrow I will bake the first trial)
Please tell me
1 Do you bake dark flour bread on the whole grain program? and further,
2 I decided to start with the standard simplest white. I was pumped up with recipes, it turns out that for a loaf of 1 kg with the same amount of other ingredients, flour is indicated from 500 gr to 700. How to be correct ?, and more
3 Can I bake baguettes according to Mulinex recipes on the French bread program?
I'm sorry for bothering a hundred times, there is no one else to turn to
Cook

If I can answer the questions, I'll do it with pleasure. I don't bake bread often. There are few food items.

Try to bake the bread from the instructions on page 6. He always turns out well.
Nagira
Tobrix, our regiment has arrived!

1 - on program 3; but rye in any stove is not easy at first

The first 5 months I baked only in Tefalk, then, thanks to our forum and the appearance of a new oven, I tried to bake it not in KhP (I was dissatisfied with the rye one: it felt like it was not baked, although it baked for up to 1.5 hours). But we are lovers of complex bread - Borodinsky, and there are many successful rye recipes on the forum, try from here, and not from the recipe book, there are many blunders - what is "Russian black bread" with cocoa and coffee for color and vinegar for sourness!

And rye with lemon is generally a disaster for 400 g of flour and 55 ml of lemon. juice and 10 ml of vinegar! I honestly tried to bake it - it was the first of rye (the whites worked well), although I excluded vinegar, the bread was sour, low and ... the birds ate it

2 - read Romina Temka about koloboks: in short, flour should be added gradually, until a non-sticky kolobok is formed (wheat)
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=49808.0

3 - but this ... even though I have not met Tefalek owners who are familiar with the Mulinex recipes, and even adapted them to their HP
believe it is possible; and even probably these recipes are easy to get here in the branch of Mulek owners, but why? there are already many interesting recipes
Tobrix
Good morning) (I have morning)
Thank you girls for the answer) I just decided to run to look and put the first loaf)
The recipes were downloaded by Moulinex and Panasonic. Just when I was choosing the stove, I came across a message that there are a lot of mistakes in the recipe book against tefal, I decided to play it safe. I didn't like the tefalka book itself. Because I looked through everything and there was no great desire to try something. Everything at Panasonic is simple, compact, recipes are simple, ordinary, intelligible. There is a big difference in flour. And Mulinex - you look straight, read the composition and hachu, hachu, hachu)))
Here on the forum there are a lot of interesting and useful things, but so far I can’t really figure it out, I need the very basics, but I get to the specialists), and the baby, when she sees me at the computer, doesn’t give any rest, so I’m still with short dashes)
Thanks again)
I'll come in the evening, I'll tell you what happened)
Tobrix
Now regarding the operation.
1 Indeed (I heard about this from some people) during the baking process the lid was deformed in the area of ​​the left corner of the viewing window on the back wall. A 5mm gap has formed in this corner between the cover and the window. The lid has arched on both sides of the viewing window rectangle along this corner. I noticed only because I specifically observed it. If you do not look closely, it does not strike the eye. After cooling, the lid returns to its original appearance.
I cannot say that I was particularly upset about this. It does not affect the result, I chose it for other positive moments and was ready for such a disadvantage)
2 Works not very noisy. Was expecting worse.
I was satisfied, I do not regret it.
Cook

Did you get the bread?
Tobrix
Hello)
I baked according to the average recipe from page 6 in the instructions for 1 kg of bun and flour as in the recipe 600 gr. I abandoned everything according to the instructions, turned it on and watched with bated breath for "maybe it will do everything right." , surprisingly, the result turned out to be remarkable. The weight of the finished product was 1kg. This means that Admin is right that ml of water is not always the same as c of water. Next time I will weigh the water. We'll amass a bun, it's enough for our family to work for three days .. and I've already looked at so many recipes here on the Abaldennykh forum ... tomorrow I will cook with onions and herbs)) At least take it and give it to the neighbors to eat it soon ... bake something new faster.
Cook

I am very glad that with agony, but you succeeded.
grinder
Everything went right for me, including the book.
grinder
tefal recipe book many mistakes
tried several recipes until everything worked out. Yesterday I noticed that the plastic bent near the window, then came back.
grinder
Yesterday I made bread according to the Village Korovai recipe, everything is as it is written in the book, I replaced only 10 grams of rye flour with sowings. Children ate 750 gr. loaf. I bet again
grinder
I tried all the bread recipes and a couple of muffins, everything is correct in the instructions for Tefal, the bread is excellent, there are no mistakes in the instructions about which everyone says. To prevent the middle from falling through, I close the viewing window with foil.
Cook
Quote: grinder

I tried all the bread recipes and a couple of muffins, everything is correct in the instructions for Tefal, the bread is excellent, there are no mistakes in the instructions about which everyone says. To prevent the middle from falling through, I close the viewing window with foil.

Post recipes with photos on the forum. Someone will pick up recipes to their liking.
Alya-small fish
and who knows the recipe for this bread maker so that the bread turns out to be airy,
while I tried three recipes, It seems that everything is ok, but the bread is dense, I would like porous, airy, maybe less flour is needed?
grinder
Cook So there is somewhere here a manual for 40002
grinder
I noticed a feature. You make 750 grams according to the same recipe, you get a denser bread, but 1000 grams is fluffy. But the 750 gr round cake is also fluffy.
That is, the optimal bread for tefal is 1000 gr in a square shape.
Alya-small fish
here is another mistake when you make Ukrainian bread, program 2 is clearly not suitable there. The recipe also lacks yeast, you need to pour a little more. Program 3 came up
grinder
Apparently for the French 5th is also not very good.
maxita
Hello! Your help is very necessary! My husband persuaded me to go on this adventure - buying a bread machine (I still don't understand how I agreed) - but I NEVER BAKED! (only once a pie with apples, which did not even rise) I need a proven, not complicated recipe for test baking bread, otherwise - well, many people say that the recipes in the instructions for Tefalka do not match. I count on you very much. Thanks in advance.
Cook
maxita, the site has a lot of great recipes.

For example, I like this one: Delicious Easter cake

Try and search for yourself.
Rina
maxita,
1. go to the section Bread Kneading and Baking Basics and study UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREADdrawing attention to Kolobok rule.
2.there is a great master class The easiest white bread made from wheat flour.
Alya-small fish
There are a lot of recipes for French bread on the site, but I can't choose at least one, no one indicates what weight to put the program on, and the measurements are different for everyone, the recipe did not inspire me according to the tefal book, maybe someone tried to bake such bread? share the recipe for this model.
Rina
I have completely different HPs.

Do you have a scale?
Let's start simple. I have a Panasonic, a loaf of 500 g of wheat flour weighs 760 g - I set the average size.
According to Tefal's description, 750 g is the minimum size.

Plain Wheat Bread:

wheat flour, premium or 1 s - 500 g
yeast 1.5 tsp (I take 6-8 g of pressed "wet")
salt 1.5 tsp
sugar 2/3 tbsp. l.
water - 330 ml - adjust the bun, since flour can have different moisture content (the honor of water can be replaced with 20 ml of apple cider (natural!) vinegar or up to half with sufficiently acidic milk whey)
oil - up to 2 tbsp. l.

this is a standard base bread. Already based on it, you can look at the recipe for French (I somehow still haven't baked it)
maxita
Hello. I am ready to leave a review about this Tefalka. Super super super !!! Yesterday evening (more precisely, at night) we baked the first bread according to the recipe with my husband Rina The simplest white bread made from wheat flour. The bread turned out to be very, very tasty !!! Of course, it didn’t come out the same as in your photo, the top sagged, but this didn’t make the bread less tasty (we ate almost all of it at 2 am!), Especially since it was my first bread in my life. Thanks a lot for the recipe, Rina. About the stove itself. Yes, and it is true that when heating near the window, plastic inflated (we specifically observed, because many people write about this), but it inflated a little, rather rose a little, but now everything is in place, everything is buzzing. And yet, for about 30-40 minutes of kneading (the exact time was not recorded), the bakery squeaked 5 times, what she wanted to tell us - we did not understand, but I suspect that after the signal something needs to be added, probably And so I am sooooo happy with my Tefalka, and the bread turned out to be great the first time, now we will experiment with other recipes.
Rina
Quote: maxita

... on prescription Rina The simplest white bread made from wheat flour....
Doctor, you flatter me (s)
I just gave a link. And I prepared a master class Admin- she's the best bread specialist on our forum.

As for the sound signal, you are right - this is the time to add additional ingredients (seasonings, seeds, cheese, raisins)
Alya-small fish

There are no scales. I measure with glasses with spoons.
Today I tried to bake French bread according to program 5, I added butter and milk only to the recipe, the bread came out very tasty and the crust is crispy, but still something is not enough for French bread. (Maybe a lot of flour for 600g 300ml of liquid)
And as for the weight ratio, I understand you need to look at the amount of flour?
I always set the weight to 1000g, it is difficult for everyone to have different recipes to find the amount of all the ingredients.
Even today, I just made the dough in HP it turns out to be just excellent, according to program 10
The pies go off with a bang.
engel777
Hello everyone, the stove is what you need, only the round bucket is out of order. Tell me where to get it in Ukraine. I will be grateful.
sazalexter
engel777 If there is such a thing in nature, they order and buy from the service. See the list in the warranty card
grinder
Alya-small fish For French, 300 is not enough, I pour 50 more. That's just what they eat
I read somewhere else so as not to fall, you need to cover the window. This is not true. If the yeast is gut, then the bread will turn out to be suitable.
vlad956
We have been using it for a little more than three months, we always got normal bread from page 6 and a wonderful cake, and the last four times the roof has fallen off both on the bread and on the kulich. I re-read the entire thread and the question remained, I used different flour, the viewing window was covered, maybe the yeast was letting down, try the saf moment from another batch. I tried everything else.
grinder
I haven't closed the lid for 4 months now, and do not recommend to do this, since the plastic in that place swells .. I picked up flour and yeast that are completely suitable and the bread is always excellent. Look at what bread comes out and then you can figure out what the problem is.
Catwoman
Quote: vlad956

We have been using it for a little more than three months, we always got normal bread from page 6 and a wonderful cake, and the last four times the roof has fallen off both on the bread and on the kulich. I re-read the entire thread and the question remained, I used different flour, the viewing window was covered, maybe the yeast was letting down, try the saf moment from another batch. I tried everything else.

Do you have the same pattern on all the packs? If not, then they are fake, I recently watched the program on fake yeast - it is the saf moment.
I use this yeast myself.
vlad956
Can someone throw off a photo of a pack of real Saf-moment
Catwoman
Quote: vlad956

Can someone throw off a photo of a pack of real Saf-moment

If I find a camera, I'll throw it off in the evening (home repairs). In the picture, the chef is pouring yeast into the mixer bowl, all the packs should have the same pattern, if the chef is there from different angles, then this is a fake.
Fiar_wi
Good day! Thanks for the wonderful site!
We plan to become bakers with Tefal! We chose for a long time, read the reviews, and finally settled on this one.

I'm only interested in the question - in case the buckets deteriorate - is it possible to buy new ones? In some models, the answers were negative ... it would not have been necessary, if anything, to buy another stove ...
grinder
There are two buckets in TEFAL OW4002, until they become unusable, it is most likely time to replace HP. Although you can probably order through the official service center.
svetlyachok
Dear owners of Tefal 4002 bread makers!
I liked this model, I want to buy it, I have never had a bread machine before.
Please share your impressions of how your stoves are baked, are there any problems with them, breakdowns. I am interested to know what kind of bread turns out, whether it browns evenly on all sides, whether the dough is kneaded well, how the oven kneads a tough dough, whether the shapes are good in quality, whether they do not flow, whether it is possible to knead on the oven and immediately bake the dough into muffins.
Thanks in advance, I would like to quickly join your bakery community.
vlad956
I wrote in the summer that the top was falling, I figured out the problem was in flour. And so there are no problems with the stove, they forgot when they bought bread products in the store. Quality buckets, bake three to four times a week and also knead the dough on dumplings, dumplings. And there is a queue behind the hot crust, in general they are very happy with this stove.

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