staroksana
loaded for the first time, the batch 1-2 stages went well and how it came to baking the bread maker turned off by itself and does not turn on anymore ...
what is it...
before binaton, I had kenwood worked without problems and there were no such surprises ... I gave it to my mother and bought a binaton for myself and now ... the problem is that I have no guarantee for it, because I brought it from vacation ... drive back far ...
staroksana
it just turned off and I took it out of the socket and then after a while I turned it on again and the menu monitor does not light up at all ... as if it were not on the network .... there is an on / off button on the Kenwood, but not in the binaton - at least I did not find it, but at the beginning I thought that this button just turned off. wrapped and rolled the whole bread maker and did not find the button ...
wellelena
Quote: staroksana

loaded for the first time, the batch 1-2 stages went well and how it came to baking the bread maker turned off by itself and does not turn on anymore ...
what is it...
before binaton, I had kenwood worked without problems and there were no such surprises ... I gave it to my mother and bought a binaton for myself and now ... the problem is that I have no guarantee for it, because I brought it from vacation ... drive back far ...
I am new to bakery. Just yesterday I bought a stove and baked bread for the first time. The problem was the same as yours. Then it is not clear how she earned and the first bread was baked. Today I kneaded the dough again - the cotton was turned off again - I'm trying to understand the reason. When I read your message, I calmed down, it was not a marriage, but something in the device x / n in the instructions they forgot to describe
staroksana
and after what time did your bread maker turn on again ...
the problem is that I turn it on and the menu does not light up at all ... but if you put your ear to the bread maker, you can hear a quiet buzz in it
and you also have a binaton
wellelena
Today I had your situation - I kneaded the dough from wallpaper flour. And then after some time the stove turned off - the display showed completely ....... I think they forgot to tell us something in the instructions. I got out of the situation like this - I pulled the plug out of the socket, waited for the time, turned it on again and pressed mode 12. It's a shame that when baking bread on this bread maker, you need to keep it under control for all three hours - it is not known what it will throw out
devisioner
on the contrary, the kneading stopped working for 4 times but the baking is going on, horror !!! before that, everything was the way, and the bread turned out wonderful.Who knows which service center is better to take, I heard that not every bread machine is accepted
wellelena
Today I took my x / n from the service center - they said that the fuse was blown, possibly due to a voltage drop in the network. That for this reason they do not give a conclusion for replacement with a new one. I did not argue - two years warranty. let's see what else she throws out. came, loaded products for plain white bread, turned on. she paused for an hour (the timer was counting down the time in good faith), then the display went out completely, but the oven worked. Then the image appeared BUT !!! 3-00 AGAIN !!!! And the process started from the beginning !!!! And how it smells like plastic !!! I think I'll go back to the service center soon
wellelena
Now I reset the timer at 3-00 again. But the dough has already risen and I set the mode 12. In general, my bakes only under supervision. I chase her and carry her to the store with specific claims. Otherwise they will say it again your fuse has blown from a voltage drop
wellelena
I bought it on August 26th, it broke down on the 30th. I took the first one straight to the workshop. But in the workshop they said that according to the rules, it was necessary to carry and write a claim to the store. and the store had to give it to the workshop to find out the cause of the breakdown.I called the store. I explained the situation and asked - why should I take the stove and take it to you ??? They consulted and decided that it was not necessary just to let the "troubleshooting" workshop draw up a clearly defect statement. Then chimes from the workshop. In general, the fuse was changed for a week. And they give themselves for repairs as in the receipt it is written already 45 days !!!! That's it !!!!
wellelena
Well, I don't have a husband, so I will fight myself - I feel I have to go a second time. Plain white bread is finished. I decided to bake an egg, put it all, turned it on. She mixed a little and the display went out. I pulled out the dough, washed everything, and went to the service again. Just in case, I plugged it into the socket, it worked. I put the dough back into the cotton - I'm waiting for the end. Or burn or bake
wellelena
Today I called the service center. They said that they made a request for s / parts - they will change the entire hardware part. It turns out that if there is no guarantee then you really need to go to the store and buy a new one
wellelena
But I did something stupid - my oven broke down in the first week I bought it. It was necessary to immediately carry it to the store and there they had to change within 10 days. And I took it to the service center. - I thought they would look - they will make a conclusion about the cause of the breakdown and I will change them without any problems with their conclusion. they kept it - 14 days have passed and now they say - you yourself are to blame - if you brought it to the service center - then you wanted to repair it - now wait 45 days ...
LightOdessa
I bought myself a stove on September 7, since then I have been baking almost every day, sometimes 2 loaves a day. I am very happy with HP. The only thing is that it is very sensitive to the voltage in the electrical network, like the microwave, it does not bake bread very well, I solve this problem with the help of the oven. It's just that in the village of ZOR (pozor), the tension is never normal, so I have no complaints about HP. Kneads - excellent. And many programs are much shorter than those of other HPs. I do not use the delayed start, because we regularly turn off the email at different times of the day. energy, so it works under my supervision. The only drawback in it is Teflon, it is not of very good quality. Apparently you really came across HP from a defective batch. If it's not a secret, where did you buy them? Not in El Dorado, by any chance?
katjunchik
How common is the problem - does not knead? Today I wanted to bake bread for sveta, but she is silent I'll try to take it to the warranty (3 months have passed since the purchase)
Strannik-Yura
Quote: katjunchik

How common is the problem - does not knead? Today I wanted to bake bread for sveta, but she is silent I'll try to take it to the warranty (3 months have passed since the purchase)

I understand that you are the owner of Binatone 1068.
Binatone 1068 is discontinued and all HP of this model are written off. Carry to the SC there you should be given a paper for a replacement or refund (but with the current rate of $).
But they can also be repaired. It all depends on the decision of the SC.
The addresses of the SC must be indicated on the warranty card.
Good luck ......
goodwine
If the fuses are lit, the problem is with your electrical system. And nothing will help. It is necessary to buy a more expensive and adapted to Russian conditions (honestly, I don’t know what to offer - this is from reflections). If the fuse is intact, then the processor is damaged, which you will worry about changing. Change the stove for money or take a different brand. When the first bread makers appeared in Russia, for me they were Hitachi and Panasonic. But now, I bought Binaton 1008. While working. The next stove will be of a different brand.
Strannik-Yura
Quote: goodwine

If the fuses are lit, the problem is with your electrical system. And nothing will help. It is necessary to buy a more expensive and adapted to Russian conditions (honestly, I don’t know what to offer - this is from reflections). If the fuse is intact, then the processor is damaged, which you will worry about changing. Change the stove for money or take a different brand. When the first bread makers appeared in Russia, for me they were Hitachi and Panasonic. But now, I bought Binaton 1008. While working. The next stove will be of a different brand.

I disagree with you.
I will not deny that the fuse can fail due to the increased voltage of the mains, but it can also fail due to the fact that something has broken in the HP.
HP has inside not only a fuse and a processor, but there are also electrical parts that can break by themselves. And in most electrical equipment breakdowns, there is no fault of power grids.
PS better and hitachi and panosonics are also not immortal, turn it, they also know how to break
goodwine
Quote: strannikyura
... I will not deny that the fuse can fail due to the increased voltage of the mains, but it can also fail due to the fact that something has broken in the HP ...
This is something new? Does the stove create a reverse current on its own? It turns out that Chubais owes all bakers? GOELRO ... Kremlin dreamer!
Quote: strannikyura
HP has inside not only a fuse and a processor, but there are also electrical parts that can break by themselves.
Undoubtedly and undeniably.
Quote: strannikyura
And in most electrical equipment breakdowns, there is no fault of power grids.
This happens. My refrigerator broke down in 1992 in the Odessa region due to frequent switching off / on of electricity. Now I live in an industrial city where there are no problems with electricity.
Quote: strannikyura
PS better and hitachi and panosonics are also not immortal, turn it, they also know how to break
Of course, everything can break down if there are violations of the manufacturing technology of parts, assembly of products. Agree that more expensive products made from better quality components break a little less often than other, cheaper products? Even bread, kneaded with two tablespoons of sugar, and not with one, all other things being equal, will be more expensive by the price of that very spoonful of sugar?
Each case must be evaluated by the experts of the service center on the basis of which the goods can be exchanged. Within 2 weeks, the exchange can be made without expert opinions. For the buyer, the answer to the question "who is to blame" is not important in principle. "The main thing is that the suit fits!"
Strannik-Yura
Quote: goodwine

This is something new? Does the stove create a reverse current on its own? It turns out that Chubais owes all bakers? GOELRO ... Kremlin dreamer! Undoubtedly and undeniable.
Yes, I really want to upset you, the Kremlin dreamer will not leave you,
A failed part can consume a lot of current. Because of this, there can be a fire and a lot of problems. An increase in power consumption indicates the exit of the device from the mode, the fuse blows out, and the product is carried for repair, where the malfunction is eliminated (one of the examples of breakdown).
Each case must be evaluated by the experts of the service center on the basis of which the goods can be exchanged. Within 2 weeks, the exchange can be made without expert opinions. For the buyer, the answer to the question "who is to blame" is not important in principle. "The main thing is that the suit fits!"
This is a gimmicky business, and they try to improve the client's guilt in every little thing. The client decides to exchange the goods or take the money if the service does not withdraw from the guarantee and repairs
LightOdessa
My bread maker broke down ... Renovated on January 16th. We are waiting for some kind of payment until February 5, in case of its absence - a refund or replacement of the stove ...
Now I'm thinking, is it worth changing for a bread maker, or is it better to take a combine for kneading with this money? I still bake in the oven, because there is not enough voltage in the network for full baking. (We regularly have 190-200 V, sometimes even lower). So, at the moment I am doing everything with pens ...
Strannik-Yura
Now I'm thinking, is it worth changing for a bread maker, or is it better to take a combine for kneading with this money? I still bake in the oven, because there is not enough voltage in the network for full baking. (We regularly have 190-200 V, sometimes even lower)

The fact is that the reduced voltage affects the engine power during kneading, I think that if you buy a combine for kneading the dough, then due to the low voltage it will have the same kneading problems.
PS With the current prices, the returned money will not be enough
Zest
LightOdessa
I'm sorry.It's always unpleasant when equipment breaks down, without which you can't imagine your life.
As for which is better - a kneading harvester or a stove? .. I have both. And I could not give preference to any one unit. If there is such an opportunity, then it is necessary to acquire both. They are more likely to complement each other and do not compete at all. Heavy dough, which I now mainly make for breads, with rye, whole-grain flour and bran, I give only to the combine, the oven is very hard to handle it, but just quickly get yeast for pies or rolls - here the oven is an indisputable favorite. In addition, with a catastrophic lack of time, I give the baking of bread to the bread maker. If you do not bake in it constantly, then the air-cotton texture of bread from it also goes into the hunt.
We also have trouble with tension. The oven in this case also did not save, it barely pulled. I had to install a voltage stabilizer for the whole apartment, now I have stable 220.
Strannik-Yura
I had to install a voltage stabilizer for the whole apartment, now I have stable 220.

a voltage regulator is good, but the price is not low either
LightOdessa
I have a gas oven, so it saves me. And the oven did the kneading well, only there was not enough voltage for baking. So I think that the harvester can help. And the bread from the oven, frankly, is not impressive. Is that saving time, but, given that I still do not use the timer, but mainly use only kneading, I don't really need it ...
Zest
LightOdessa
well, you yourself answered your own question)) It would be preferable for you to make a refund and take a kneader.
liniolla
Is there a way to buy spare parts for HP without referring to the warranty? I have a little stirrer, I would like to replace ...
can anyone come across?
PetrAf
On the issue of repair.
Wonderful stove! In the sense it is necessary to take on the remark
Since this is my first stove, and I have not seen anything else, but by design, we can safely say: This company does not need to produce such things ... Let them do something else!
It's not two years old yet, and the galvanized chassis, which is also the bottom in the oven, has changed its entire galvanization into rust! The complaint about the shabby blade is quite true. The copper-graphite drive bushing deteriorated very quickly! Half a year has not passed! Well, of course, the instructions in black say: "NOT FOR COMMERCIAL use. But excuse me, for home use too ... What did you buy, set and see ?! Or bake a French bun and drink tea once a week ?!"
Last week I was repairing the mold ... Disassemble only by drilling RIVETS !!! Publishers !!!
A metal cup and a tortured spring remained from the oil seal! Where is the material ?! Looks like I ate it ?! What, it's your own fault ?! I baked only bread, and first I poured flour, etc., and then added water until it was right! I think this is the best setting for compacting, since thick dough, and even under the blade, cannot get anywhere! After baking, warm water was poured and until the next time. What else?! Again, the bushing ... Well, okay! How I got out of the problem ...
The drive was remade. Installed THREE on the standard shaft! bearing. It is clear that it is necessary to make the bushing, which is fastened with three or four screws to the chassis, the standard assembly is cut out. The bottom of the housing is cut out under the pulley. This makes it easier to control and replace worn parts. You can do the following with the form. Stuffing box. Eight oil seals included. Volga valve oil seals. Process in height on a sharpener, put on a sealant. Sleeve. Replacement or sweep to repair size. Make a new shaft, or increase the diameter with a suitable thin-walled tube. I made do with the reeling of copper foil. Well, so! Binaton ... In the end: time, money, etc., for those who choose a stove, if only they really want to tweak, repair, what would then say: Come on, let's fix it!
In the photo there is an oil seal and bearing. 🔗
liniolla

it happens that many companies become unusable ...
When I bought a stove - with the expectation that then in 2-3 years I will change to a new one.2 years have passed, there is no rust, the scapula has peeled off .... but there are no complaints about the work.
next year I will probably change ...
Nod1
here they are engaged in the sale of any products and repair and spare parts for Binatone
🔗 m. Polezhaevskaya
I bought myself a stove there and found out everything from them
arrivederci_8
PetrAf, and that Binaton does not have his own repair service
Why such troubles?
I have 2169, 2 years warranty is written on the box. That's why I bought it
belk @
My spatula is also peeled off and the stirrer is difficult to scroll. But I have a way out - to take the stove to the dacha and use it in the summer - there are always problems with bread in gardening. And buy a new one for yourself in the fall.
pssergey
I read the branch. All this is of course interesting.
But I just don’t understand, how can I find out which stove has broken in each particular case? The theme is common for this brand, but they have more than one model. Only one arrivederci_8 reported the model number of his X / P.
Quote: Strannik-Yura
.... A defective component can draw a lot of current. Because of this, there can be a fire and a lot of problems. An increase in power consumption indicates the exit of the device from the mode, the fuse blows out, and the product is carried for repair, where the malfunction is eliminated (one of the examples of breakdown) ...
... Another possible cause of a blown fuse can be poor contact in the network, for example in: socket, "tee", extension cord, adapter ...
In this case, a blown fuse is the most harmless incident.
Strannik-Yura
Quote: pssergey

I read the branch. All this is of course interesting.
But I just don’t understand how can I find out which stove has broken in each particular case? The theme is common for this brand, but they have more than one model. Only one arrivederci_8 reported the model number of his X / P ....

In most cases, the parts are the same, so you can't guess which model to buy.
Quote: pssergey

Another possible cause of a blown fuse may be poor contact in the network, for example in: socket, "tee", extension cord, adapter ...
In this case, a blown fuse is the most harmless incident.

well this is from the realm of fantasy.
The fact that poor contact of the network can lead to breakdown is a fact,
But I don’t believe that only the fuse would burn out because of this.
I accept evidence only through Ohm's law.
pssergey
Greetings.
Quote: Strannik-Yura

In most cases, the parts are the same, so you can't guess which model to buy.
No problem. There is no desire to voice model numbers, so it is not necessary.
Quote: Strannik-Yura
well this is from the realm of fantasy.
The fact that poor contact of the network can lead to breakdown is a fact,
But I don’t believe that only the fuse would burn out because of this.
I accept evidence only through Ohm's law.
I'm not going to prove anything.
Whether you want to, take note, or not.
I will only add that all of the above is from personal experience.
Strannik-Yura
Quote: pssergey

Greetings. No problem. There is no desire to voice the model numbers, so it is not necessary. I'm not going to prove anything.
Whether you want to, take note, or not.
I will only add that all of the above is from personal experience.

since I have been repairing electronics all my life, my experience is also not small
at the expense of the model,
we are repairing Binatone,
And I will say that the most frequently bought models break down.
and there are a number of other brands of bread makers, which differ from Binatone only in the body, the filling is the same common Binatone BM-1068
pssergey
Quote: Strannik-Yura
since I have been repairing electronics all my life, then my experience is also not small ...
And I had no doubts. I added my observations to your quote simply, as to the most appropriate in the dialogue.
Quote: Strannik-Yura
at the expense of the model, we are repairing Binatone,
And I will say that the most frequently bought models break down.
and there are a number of other brands of bread makers that differ from Binatone only in the body, the filling is the same common Binatone BM-1068
Thank you. There is no doubt about that. Just imagine the situation, a person finds this thread by searching, but it is not so easy to navigate through the text, what exactly we are talking about, especially if there is little "network" experience.
Strannik-Yura
with time you will gain experience, this is not a problem.
PS now everything is done not for the purpose of using it, but for the fact that it was bought and at least somehow worked out the warranty period
ALL_
Hello.
The problem is this: Binatone BM-2068 bread machine. One fine time the belt fell off.He unscrewed the butt part to access the trash, pulled on the belt. Collected, included. But instead of normal operation, the numbers on the display flash and after 15 seconds they turn off altogether. When you press the touch panel, the stove reacts only on / off the subgrid, the other reaction buttons are zero. Literally before disassembly - everything worked, only the motor was spinning idle.
The impression is as if some secret from the autopsy worked. But I did not find anything like this visually. Yes, and not the kind of technique that bothers so much.

Can anyone have any thoughts about this?
pssergey
Quote: ALL_
Can anyone have any thoughts about this?
ALL_
Greetings!
How's it going with the stove, why did it become clear?
Maybe what kind of contact was broken? It happens, after all, this, hanging itself a connector "on snot", and then bam ...
although I have not yet seen how it is arranged inside the HP.
ALL_
did not clear up.

Now there is no time to study, yesterday, as luck would have it, the washing machine broke down, spent the whole evening while doing it. Maybe at the weekend there will be time, I'll take care of the bread maker.
On forums where questions have been left, no one writes anything worthwhile, apparently for the first time this, or the servicemen freeze as usual, wait until they fall.
crista
Please help with advice. The bread maker (slow cooker) is my first time. Binatone 2170. I don't understand the nuances. Now the question arose about the exchange or return of the bread machine. The lid does not close tightly at the back. There is a gap inside where the bread is baked. OR SHOULD IT BE ???
alenika
Hello! My top cover also has a gap of about 3 mm with the body. I cooked bread and pilaf a couple of times. It does not affect performance, steam does not escape through the slots in the lid.
Serious
2170 - everyone has this gap. Some especially suspicious ones decided that it should not exceed 3 mm, otherwise the type does not work well - it has not been experimentally confirmed.
Regarding the oil seals and the bucket - which branch do not go into, which HP do not look at the same everywhere, the oil seals fail. IMHO judging by the calls, Panas has the least problems with the oil seal, but he also has it.
Binaton's HP (as well as other brands) we sell constantly and a lot, there is certainly a marriage, but the percentage does not go beyond the total percentage among brands and types of devices.
And even this thread suggests that there are not so many dissatisfied, we have these HPs sold in dozens a week, and this is only 1 store, how many - I can’t even imagine, and there’s nothing negative reviews.
It is clear that if something is wrong, then it is annoying, but in vain everything is immediately blamed on the brand.
Especially IMHO.
matreshkina
During kneading, very loud clicks or knocks are heard. What could be the reason?
Serious
Has it always been this way or has it just begun? Otherwise, you won't understand what you mean.
matreshkina
there was a knock after 2 years of service.
Serious
If used often, it is possible that the oil seal, holder, etc. are worn out - you need to look.
marfya
Hello everyone! became the owner of 2175. The case heats up and smells like plastic. has anyone faced such problems?
Faith 2011
Binaton 2169. After 2 years of almost daily use, a large bucket went out of order: first, the coating began to peel off under one scapula, and then the pin on which the scapula was put on fell out altogether, liquid leaks during mixing. Where can I get a new bucket? Or repair is possible?
sazalexter
Quote: Vera 2011

Binaton 2169. After 2 years of almost daily use, a large bucket went out of order: first, the coating began to peel off under one scapula, and then the pin on which the scapula was put on fell out altogether, and liquid leaks during mixing. Where can I get a new bucket? Or is repair possible?
The bucket can be ordered through the service. You can repair ... method https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=36855.0 You can restore the coverage in the company Sibovar in Tomsk 634055, G TOMSK, ACADEMIC PROSP, D 2, OFFICE 107
Phone (s) 3822-493505

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