Zebra
Didn't find a similar topic. So I had to create a new one. I'm afraid I have a lot of them. Here's the first one.

OOO I really want to cook the snotty, snotty, sticky oatmeal porridge from my childhood. We were given this in kindergarten, my grandmother cooked this. But I can't do it. I have already practiced in different ways: I bought flakes from different manufacturers (both flattened and non-flattened), and experimented with the fat content of milk, but everything is not right, it turns out to be ordinary porridge, without "snot". Grandma has long been gone, there is no one to ask. I consulted my skillful girlfriends who know how and love to cook, they have the same story. What is the puncture, I do not understand.
Darling, help. Everything was exhausted. Eh.




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Innochek
And it seems to me that the answer is on the surface. There used to be Gekules groats, now mostly flakes.
At least I have been trying to buy cereals for a very long time and so far there are no results.
Zebra
I already bought "Monastic Hercules", where the cooking time is already 20 minutes, not that ...
gawala
Zebra, maybe the cereal-milk ratio? I read now in the book "about tasty and healthy food" for 1959 from crushed oatmeal 2: 4. From flakes "Hercules" 2: 5 ...
I remember my uncle adored "snotty" oatmeal and did not trust anyone to cook it. I remember the cereal was not crushed, but ordinary, but he cooked it for a very long time, over low heat, then insisted, but it turned out exactly "snotty" porridge ... Alas, you can't ask how he exactly did it ..
Probably now other technologies for grain processing have become, and that's not working.
celfh
I haven't cooked porridge for a long time, but in my opinion, I took it in a ratio of gurcules / water = 1/3.
Cooked in a slow cooker. I had a completely dietary porridge - gurcules and water. Without salt.
Zebra
Quote: celfh
I haven't cooked porridge for a long time, but in my opinion, I took it in a ratio of gurcules / water = 1/3.
Most often, I also take just such a ratio, but sniffles do not come out ...
gawala
Quote: Zebra
Most often, I also take just such a ratio, but sniffles do not come out ...
Try a different ratio. All by typing ..
Tricia
Zebra, Tanya! Take the most oak oatmeal (it is determined by eye - where are the least flattened grains), let it swell from st. l. kefir (you can put it overnight), boil in water 1 to 5 or 6, depending on the degree of grinding or flattening, and leave to cool. Our grandfather made oatmeal jelly almost like that - he was slobbering at first, froze in the cold.
Or even take oatmeal, soak it, press it with a crush, crush it and cook.
Gluten gives snot, so you need to let it swell and develop, I suspect. And do not add milk and fats - they prevent gluten from developing - only in the finished dish already.
Mandraik Ludmila
Tatyana, without any dancing with tambourines, I buy the cheapest rolled oats, 12 rubles per 400g, usually sold in transparent bags with a small white sticker, it happens in all chain stores, most often I take in the top five. I cook in multi rede-01, rolled oats to liquid 1: 3, half milk, cooked for 30 minutes, porridge is thick snotty, if you make more liquid 1: 4, then liquid snotty.
Zebra
Quote: gawala
Try a different ratio. All by typing ..
And the ratio also changed ...

Quote: Tricia
Zebra, Tanya! Take the most oak oatmeal (it is determined by eye - where are the least flattened grains), let it swell from st. l. kefir (you can put it overnight), boil in water 1 to 5 or 6, depending on the degree of grinding or flattening, and leave to cool. Our grandfather made oatmeal jelly almost like that - he was slobbering at first, froze in the cold.
Or even take oatmeal, soak it, press it with a crush, crush it and cook.
Gluten gives snot, so you need to let it swell and develop, I suspect. And do not add milk and fats - they prevent gluten from developing - only in the finished dish already.

I'll try. But I don’t remember that my grandmother arranged such dances with tambourines, did not soak anything for the night, and cooked it in milk immediately, and not in water.
It seems ....
Here, it's really interesting, is there a live person on the forum who turns out "snotty" porridge?




Oh, there is such a person. Here he is
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
Tatyana, without any dancing with tambourines, I buy the cheapest rolled oats, 12 rubles per 400g, usually sold in transparent bags with a small white sticker, it happens in all chain stores, most often I take in the top five. I cook in multi rede-01, rolled oats to liquid 1: 3, half milk, cooked for 30 minutes, porridge is thick snotty, if you make more liquid 1: 4, then liquid snotty.
Ludmila, I will try to buy such hercules.
Tricia
Tanya! I am also such a person, because I just love only liquid porridge, and oatmeal in the first place. And I have it always liquid-snotty. As I cook, I'll bring a photo
Antonovna
I also love snotty oatmeal. To do this, pouring Hercules COLD, and not hot liquid (or water or milk) in a ratio of 1: 3 (1: 4) and cook min. 15. But if you pour boiling water, then it will be without this delicious "jelly". I know this for sure. Because I cook a snotty one myself, and my girlfriend is exclusively the second option.
OlgaGera
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
I cook in cartoon rede-01
Yes, on the program Baby food. Then I turn it off. In the morning, if necessary, add milk, bring to a boil and that's it.
I buy Herkus or Monastyrsky, or where a woman with a scythe. In boxes
The proportions are 1: 3.5.
Poured Hercules in a multi bowl overnight with cold water and left. The cartoon is ajar. In the morning I added milk, cooked it on Baby food. It also turns out to be a mess.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Antonovna
To do this, pouring the Hercules COLD
Yes, I fill the same with cold water and milk, any fat content from the refrigerator. My neighbor wanted the same snotty porridge, gave her her bag, for a start, then she herself is now looking for the cheapest rolled oats. But do not take a branded type of O'Key or Diksovsky "first thing", there will be snot, but not tasty rolled oats
Yuliya K
Quote: Zebra
and cooked in milk immediately, and not in water.
It seems ....
I don’t know, I always have it "snotty": pardon: and from different flakes, but I can always say the same thing - on the stove - I pour oatmeal into boiling water with salted water, and only when the porridge thickens, I add sugar, pour cold milk, I bring it to a boil, and after a short time I turn off the heat and let it stand under a closed lid .... I don’t cook oats in a cartoon ... I don’t like it.
Anastasenok
My snotty porridge comes out in milk in half with water, Monastyrsky Hercules 1: 3. Hour at 95 degrees, stir and forget for an hour in a closed cartoon
OlgaGera
Quote: Yuliya K
I don’t cook hercules in the cartoon ... I don’t like it.
it turns out delicious in a milk cooker)))
gawala
Quote: OlgaGera
it turns out delicious in a milk cooker)))
In a clay pot too ..
BlackHairedGirl
I have such a porridge "snotty" is obtained from oatmeal. Pour cold milk 1: 5, salt and sugar to taste, and cook on Stew for 1 hour in a slow cooker. Always a great result.
Quiet
Good evening! Can I share my experience too?
For a long time I cook porridge for breakfast according to the same recipe, I only change cereals - or oatmeal (traditional), or millet, or rice. Oatmeal and rice are made jelly, millet is steamed.

I cook in cartoon (small Panasonic). Milk porridge program.
1.5 cups of cereals, 3 cups of milk, 4.5 cups of water, salt.
I fall asleep in the cartoon, turn it on. After a while I interfere.
Then I wait for the program to end and interfere again. The cartoon goes into heating mode.
I keep it on heating from 1 to 2 hours, I look at the snotty.
I do all this in the evening, I leave it in the disconnected cartoon for the night.

In general, a lot of text.

The key point is that porridge should rebuke. It was my grandmother who used to say that, after the porridge was boiled, she always kept it in a water bath for some time, it turned out just snot. And by the way, in public catering, cereals are always put on reluctance.

But sometimes it happens to me that even after two hours of heating, there is no sourness. Then I cook for another 15 minutes on the same program.

But in general, however, sometimes it feels like the cereals are different now.
The same bullshit with sugar, not every sugar makes fudge. But this is so, by the way ...




Here's another thing I thought. But it's true, in canteens, porridge is always exemplary, especially in terms of snotty. They hover them, that's for sure, and they also use the cheapest (and therefore least processed) cereals. Oatmeal is not cooked from flakes, but from cereals.

I must try it myself, by the way ...
Zebra
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Tatyana, without any dancing with tambourines, I buy the cheapest rolled oats, 12 rubles per 400g, usually sold in transparent bags with a small white sticker, it happens in all chain stores, most often I take in the top five.
Yesterday I bought such rolled oats. On the label, by the way, it was written that this is oatmeal, not cereal.

Quote: Antonovna
I also love snotty oatmeal. To do this, pouring Hercules with COLD, not hot liquid (or water or milk) in a ratio of 1: 3 (1: 4) and cook min. 15. But if you pour boiling water, then it will be without this delicious "jelly". I know this for sure.

Poured COLD water, and to be sure, left it overnight.
In the morning I added milk, salt, sugar and cooked in a cartoon, I have a pressure cooker, so I cooked not 30 minutes, but 15.
That lady ... IT WORKED !!! Those very sniffles and viscosity, and, it seems, even the taste, as in childhood.
The mind is not stretchable! To suffer for so many years ... And the chest just opened! It turns out, as many have written, you need to fill it with COLD water or milk. This is the trick. And I have always followed the instructions, which say that you need to pour the flakes into a hot liquid. Although, someone pours hot and everything works out. Wonders.
By the way, after reading all the comments, it seemed to me that the understanding of "snotty" is different for everyone. But I got what I wanted, so girls, thank you all very much for the valuable advice! Smack-smack.

Quote: Silent
Here's another thought. But it's true, in canteens, porridge is always exemplary, especially in terms of snotty. They hover them, that's for sure, and they also use the cheapest (and therefore least processed) cereals.

I also thought a lot about processing. When I was little, my grandmother, my mother, and the closest relatives had old keys in cereals !!! To my perplexed question "why" my grandmother replied that it was so that the bugs would not start! In my 20 or so years as an adult cook, only once did I get bugs in pancake flour. Neither in plain flour nor in cereals I NEVER had them, although I did not put any keys / nails / coins. So, the following question arises: maybe, are cereals really something or somehow processed?
I read about sugar and flour, they are bleached just in order to extend the shelf life:
It would seem that there is nothing easier, rubbed the grain, here's the flour for you. But, such flour is poorly stored, quickly deteriorates, insects often start in it, which find in it the necessary nutrients for themselves. It is clear that this is not at all profitable for manufacturers, so they thoroughly clean it. And as it turned out, they cleanse from substances useful to humans.

A huge amount of vitamins, microelements, and the fiber we need so much, all this goes to waste.

Almost one starch remains. But that's not all. In order for the flour to become sufficiently white, and, according to manufacturers, presentable and attractive, it is bleached with chemicals, and a completely natural product turns into a surrogate.
M. b. and do something similar with cereals to extend the shelf life?

By the way, the shops mainly sell flour of the highest or first grade. Whole grain is rarely found and is expensive, although it would seem that labor costs for its production are much lower.
sazalexter
Quote: Zebra
By the way, the shops mainly sell flour of the highest or first grade. Whole grain is rarely found and is expensive, although it would seem that labor costs for its production are much lower.
Sold in large hypers such as Auchan, tapes have recently been in the top five. Labor costs may be lower, but production is not "sharpened" for this flour, the demand is small, the main consumer is bakeries, they take little of it, they sell even less at retail, the shelf life is 6 months, in general, a headache ...
RepeShock

C / s flour is now a shaft, and very different.
Apparently, look not there))) especially in Moscow.
Bugs love her very much)))
Zebra
Quote: RepeShock
C / s flour is now a shaft, and very different.
Apparently, look not there))) especially in Moscow.
Rarely - I mean, compared to premium flour. Of course, in Moscow, there are no problems with whole grain flour. That's not the question
RepeShock

Even we always have it.
Recently, I took it in the Carousel, there are probably 5 types.




What's the question? In the price? So this is understandable, it is more natural, the shelf life is two times less, hence the price.
Zebra
RepeShock, IrinaI understand everything about flour, it was written, just by the way.

A question. M. b., And do something similar with cereals to extend the shelf life? And just for this reason, someone turns out tasty and "snotty" porridge, and someone does not, although everyone cooks approximately the same.
RepeShock

Tatyana, clear

I thought we were done with oatmeal, switched to flour
Zebra
Quote: RepeShock
I thought we were done with oatmeal, switched to flour
With oatmeal, yes. But I'm still interested in the question: are cereals (any) also processed?

And there is also a question about flour. I have never yet come across a single recipe so that baking is made only from whole grain flour (i.e., coarse grinding), ordinary flour is always added. Why? Expensive? Poor whole grain baked goods?
Mandraik Ludmila
Tatyana, do you bake bread? There are bread recipes based on pure whole grain. You can bake and bake, but it will not turn out as fluffy and airy as from premium flour. Here beauty diverges with benefit
Svetlenki
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Here beauty diverges with benefit

Whole grain flour has a specific taste ... And you also need to be able to work with it - to reveal its taste. Very often, long cold proofs are used, starter cultures to neutralize phytic acid.

Elena Zheleznyak has a very interesting article in this regard. I'll throw the link under the spoiler

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And it is also capricious in storage, a much shorter shelf life due to the fact that the hard shells of the grains that are ground into this flour contain oils that go rancid ...

In general, there are many different nuances ...
Admin
Quote: Zebra
and cereals (any) are also processed

Necessarily!
I watched a special program on this subject. You need to process cereals
Mandraik Ludmila
Tanechka, but nothing is written on them, that is, it turns out they are misleading us?
Admin

As far as I remember, and I know the terminology, cereals are processed several times, sifted, sorted out, different metal things are caught with a magnet ... and at the last moment they are packed in packaging bags that move along a conveyor and are exposed to laser-type beams that are bactericidal ... Some kind of military development.

I watch all this on the SCIENCE channel - you can see very interesting programs there.

I wash my cereals, except for some species.
Flakes, including oat flakes, not mine, they have already been heat-treated. Yes, and when washed, they will simply become limp.
Mandraik Ludmila
Tanechka, and sometimes I wash and oatmeal, so that the "splinters" (hollow shells of grain) float away, I don't hold thin flakes
dog gray
The cereals are not mine. If the cereal is bitter, I throw it away. You cannot save it by washing, and it becomes very possible to get poisoned.
Going through, if completely with trash (rarely, but it happens).
Washing is not indicated for cereals or meat and fish. They are also heat treated. And what about some water? So, to clear your conscience.
In addition, the croup becomes slimy, its weight and volume are not clear.
In short, in my opinion, this is from the evil one ...
Yuliya K
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
I sometimes wash and oatmeal, so that the "splinters" (hollow shells of grain) float away
I, too, that rolled oats that are not in the boxes, mine, so that the empty shells float up - it's not very pleasant when they come across in porridge ...
Quote: the dog is gray
Groats are not mine
In my opinion, one bulkhead cannot do with rice, it is imperative to rinse it - otherwise, for example, you won't cook pilaf - it will stick together.
dog gray
Quote: Yuliya K
In my opinion, one bulkhead cannot do with rice, it is imperative to rinse it - otherwise, for example, you cannot cook pilaf
I cook pilaf. Not mine. This is where the ambush is, you can make a mistake with the volume-weight. Rice, he's different. There are more and there are less starchy names.




I take a round one for porridge, and a long one for pilaf.




I'm lying. My millet in cold water. Many many times! My pearl barley, after cooking already. To make the slime go away. How could I forget! A shame!
Yuliya K
Quote: the dog is gray
I cook pilaf. Not my groats
I don’t think this is correct. If you cook with steamed rice, then yes, you can probably do without washing. Regular milled rice contains too much starch, not only on the inside, but also on the outside of the grain. And they always measure dry cereals, not washed ones. In real pilaf, in addition to thorough washing, rice is also soaked.
dog gray
Soaked in those days when our clever breeders did not deduce the darkness of various types of rice, vegetables and others like them. It's easier now. Different rice for different dishes. Business then!
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: the dog is gray
My millet in cold water.
And I wash the millet with boiling water, the specific millet "bitterness" goes away, a neighbor from the village taught me about 5 years ago, now that's the only way I do it, the taste of porridge is like that - I like it more.
V-tina
Quote: Zebra
is there a live person on the forum who turns out "snotty" porridge?
ya .. I always have such a porridge, I cook Ulyasha, but I didn’t measure the proportion .. about about 5 liters. milk 3-4 tbsp. l. extra flakes and cook for a long time over low heat
kavmins
Mandraik Ludmila, I also pour boiling water over millet - it doesn't taste bitter then for sure ...
and I wash the rice, and if the water is cloudy, then until the dregs come off ... and cereals, of course, except for my flakes, and my peas .. from dust, I think it is necessary to rinse, why cook it all into porridge - it’s a matter of minutes to rinse the cereals ..
dog gray
In short - to wash or not to wash? It's just your personal aesthetic taste. Believe me, if there are no such requirements on EPP, then it makes no sense for us to bother. And there the rules ... wow. But it was strictly forbidden to wash pasta after heat treatment! And pasta in those days was not always beautiful and did not look beautiful. Crappy in appearance, but useful in nature.
V-tina
Quote: kavmins
and I wash the rice, and if the water is cloudy, then until the dregs come off ... and cereals, of course, except my flakes, and my peas .. from dust, I think it is necessary to wash,
I also wash it, moreover, many times, to clear water, I do not like either the color or the taste of not washed cereals
Mandraik Ludmila
Galya, my husband still remembers gray pasta with longing ... I bought whole-grain pasta from durum flour here, rumpled about it, for my husband - not very much, "not at all" - Gauvreau
dog gray
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
the husband still remembers gray pasta with longing.
Vesch! They are now, infections, have become expensive.
Admin
Quote: the dog is gray
Washing is not indicated for cereals or meat and fish. They are also heat treated. And what about some water? So, to clear your conscience.

Of course, especially when:

There are three large categories of pathogenic microorganisms, defined as psychrophilic, mesophilic and thermophilic.
Psychrophilic microorganisms live at temperatures from 10 to 20 * C
Mesophilic - from 20-25 to 40-45 * С
Thermophilic viable at temperatures up to 55-60 * С
At ideal temperatures, each category reproduces quickly and actively, and the pH level (acidity of the product) also affects the rate of reproduction and survival.

Microorganisms under ideal conditions can grow and double in number every 15-20 minutes. Initial - 1 CFU, one colony forming unit:
- after 3 hours they reach more than 200;
- after 6 hours they reach more than 200 thousand;
- after 9 hours they reach more than 200 million;
- in 12 hours they reach more than 200 billion.

Freezing meat - sharing our experience
dog gray
Will you kill them with water? Microorganisms die when exposed to high temperatures! And they wash and wash thoroughly, only what is served without heat treatment. Law.




We studied it and passed the exams. It was strict in those days. Up to ... Turma.
kavmins
dog gray, I do not know what you previously studied about washing cereals, but here is a quick quote from "Sanitary and Epidemiological Rules and Norms SanPiN 2.4.5.2409-08" for 2008:
8.15. Cereals should not contain foreign impurities. Before use, the cereals are washed with running water.
Admin
Quote: the dog is gray
Will you kill them with water?

With water, I will only wash off the mucus and dirt from the meat, which crawled over the counters, knives, axes, and lay in the package, was stored somewhere (it is not known in what conditions). Well, I will never put dirty seeded meat in a cooking pot - I was taught this way from childhood, and I think that I was taught correctly

Galya, forgive me - but sometimes I am amazed at your ideas and advice of the chef, but you offer them to all honest people I would not dare to give such advice on the culinary forum

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