Zelmer grinder problem

Ladies, I ask for your advice!
I have a Zelmer 987.80. Half a year grinded everything, any fat, pork and lamb. And then she stopped grinding, even changed the nozzle for large holes. It is not just fat that winds onto the screw, but even meat. I forgot the screw she had cast, or forged. I even sharpened the screw. Does not help. What could be the reason? Maybe I erased something ...
That's how I wound it today, I had to disassemble it in the middle.

And I forgot to say. When she works, she whistles, as if there are glands rubbing.

[Sikorka]

Sikorka, Change the movable knife, sharpen what and how to tell.

Like knives on a whetstone.

[Sikorka]

Sikorka, maybe the knife is dull, but sharpening it is quite difficult, maybe there are some secrets

The problem was absolutely identical - everything fell into place, after buying a new knife) I was told in the store that knives are the weak point of these meat grinders, I really had enough for a year

The problem was absolutely identical - everything fell into place, after buying a new knife) I was told in the store that knives are the weak point of these meat grinders, I really had enough for a year

Imagine, when buying, I was assured that the best knives from all meat grinders are from Zelmer, since they are cast and made of high-strength steel.
And you have 1 post on the forum. I feel the representatives of the zelmer here

I just read a lot of the forum, but somehow it wasn’t written) I decided to write to you, because I ran into this. By the way .... voted regularly in the topic "Please vote" for our kitty))) And apparently you once had one message too) So you don't want to write here anymore, reading is probably enough))))))) ))))))) If I bought a knife in Eldorado)))))))))))

Well, I'm sorry then. Have you tried sharpening knives yourself?

No, I didn’t try it, because I didn’t recommend a sharpener in our market (and they are right there), but I’m not sure of its competence, I just decided for myself that I would buy and buy

[Sikorka]

I feel the representatives of the zelmer here

Sikorka, why write so immediately? Zelmer representatives would not answer you that way. And the fact that the knives are weak in these meat grinders is a fact. I gave my knife to the grinder every three months.

Girls, I found a video on sharpening here for people like me)))

I don’t know how in zelmer, but before, knives from a manual meat grinder, and then from an electric one, were always given to sharpen along with the grate. I even met somewhere that the grate is called a fixed knife. Once I tried to sharpen only a knife myself, cut my finger, and the meat was crumpled. Now I'm just buying, it's easier for me, it's harder to find a good grinder than knives / grates. But I have the most common pieces of iron, any household store has ...

Peace be with you bastards!

The knives in the meat-rolling machine are excellent, at least they have never failed over the entire period of use - intensive

Well, if you can fix what you can on a zero skin

Oh, I don't know what to do anymore! We bought a new knife, but it still twists badly and winds pieces of meat on the screw and it turns out that meat does not come out in the middle of the grate, only it crawls out of the holes along the edges and even whistles during operation.
By the way, Zelmer has service centers on the site, so they are not purely Zelmer, but they serve many brands.

Peace be with you bakers!

That would be clear

When the knife and the grate are perfectly sharpened, when they are applied to each other, they seem to stick together / magnet

This is achieved by scraping on a machine and it is unlikely that in any workshop for sharpening something, this can be done
Of course, you can spend a specific time and do it manually - but it's long and dreary

[Sikorka]

Sikorkahad the same problem. brought the knife and grate to sharpen.the knife was spoiled, it got even worse, the meat was chewed and the minced meat climbed around the edges, not even the mince. bought a new knife. after a while, she put the old one and twisted it tightly. chews like new everything)

I bought a new knife today, it still crushes. And in the service with Azalea, do not tighten the nut tightly, as it whistles because of this. Can sharpen the grate?

Can sharpen the grate?

I sharpened
if you do not tighten the nut, then the knife dangles inside

And I have a problem with such a meat grinder: black meat periodically comes out in the center. Can anyone advise what to do?

[Sweet 53]

Sweet 53, periodically I shoot blackness from the center, usually a little

And if it is written. that the knife is forged self-sharpening. it means we sleep well

[Ljna]

Ljna.. you must admit this is unpleasant. After all, you can see the blackness. Then it will fall into cutlets (((And what is the reason for this phenomenon?

[Sweet 53]

Sweet 53if the meat is moist, by rubbing the knives. the manual meat grinder had the same problem. knowing this, I always control the middle. minced meat usually comes out for 1 kg, it's not difficult for me to see

[Zelmer MM1200.80]

I have Zelmer MM1200.80, has been working for three years and recently the same problem has appeared. You need to sharpen knives (but not yourself) or buy new ones, there should be no other reason.

Added Thursday 26 Jan 2017 15:51

Ludmila, but surely it's not the meat? Because my husband and I, when we were turning beef on cutlets, also saw blackness in places. And the pork is clean, nothing. It seems that some veins fall in the beef and black pieces of minced meat are obtained.

[Zelmer 987.88]

I bought a meat grinder Zelmer 987.88, this is the last series in the simplest configuration, that is, only a meat grinder with a sausage attachment. Everyone else comes up to her, but so far I only need a mill, which I bought separately.
I tried to pass the dumplings dough through a meat grinder on a minced meat grill without a knife - excellent, but thick spaghetti came out (grill with holes about 3 mm), I did not dare to go through the smallest one, but next time I will try it too.
I liked this function and I attended to the purchase of special pasta nozzles (the manufacturer is also Zelmer). They are on sale, but I still can't find out if they fit my meat grinder. I met a job review online Zelmer Diana 886.5, this nozzle is uniquely suitable for her (included in the kit)
If any of the members of the forum have such things, please measure their diameter.

And yes, I did not receive an answer to my question either on the official website or in an authorized service center.

[Zelmer 987.88]

meat grinder Zelmer 987.88 so far only a mill is needed, which I bought separately.

throw a link to the mill, pzhl. And yesterday I bought plastic attachments for a standard meat grinder in a regular household store - we got into Zelmer, but I'm afraid that one edge will skew during work (the diameter is smaller than ours for standard meat grinders). If the experience turns out to be successful, I will unsubscribe. What was the pasta cut - with scissors or with a knife?

throw a link to the mill, pzhl

🔗 This is an online store technostore, they had the most affordable price of 1.290 rubles (a native Zelmer's mill), and in an authorized technical center it costs 2.500 only on a prepaid basis.

What was the pasta cut - with scissors or with a knife?

I waited up to almost 20 cm in length, stopped the meat grinder, cut it with a knife and laid it out on separate pasta, I was afraid that if you did not separate it right away, they would stick together.
And so every batch, at the same time gave rest to the meat grinder, you never know what.
I made the dough with a mixer very steep - for two measuring cups of flour, three eggs (in volume it was exactly 23 measuring glasses), 1 tsp of salt + dried parsley.
I liked it, it is much faster and easier than rolling out the dough with your hands and cutting noodles out of it.



There are also such, to find out their size and where they are sold.






Vidyushka on this topic, only a different meat grinder.

How interesting! I also have Zelmer, I would never have thought that she could make pasta too ...

[Crown]

Crown, for all models of Zelmer meat grinders, where xxx.5 is the grill diameter of 53.5 mm, for all models of Zelmer meat grinders, where xxx.8 is the grill diameter of 61.5 mm. I found this on a parts site when I was looking for a sausage rack. They also wrote that a full analogue for xxx.8 is a grill for sausage of a Bosch MFW 66020, 67440, 68640, 68660 meat grinder, maybe there are such grates for the dough for Bosch

There are also such, to find out their size and where they are sold.

So I am writing about them, I bought just such in the household store. But for my Zelmer they are a bit too small, stand up, stand up, but flimsy, I'm afraid, with an effort, this grille will squeeze out or warp. They are designed for the smaller diameter of standard meat grinders ... I have a Zelmer 987.86
I will measure the size, I will write (if I don’t get sick, the truth today has spruced up ...)

now I looked at the Polish site, nevertheless przystawka do formowania ciastek i makaronu -only for model 886.5, for our model it will not fit in diameter

I will measure the size, I will write (if I don’t get sick, the truth today has spruced up ...)

Get well soon, the holidays are just around the corner.

So I am writing about them, I bought just such in the household store. But for my Zelmer they are a bit too small, stand up, stand up, but flimsy, I'm afraid, with an effort, this grille will squeeze out or warp.

I will wait with interest for the test result. How much do these attachments cost?
Can somehow strengthen the edge with an iron nut, or rather with an iron ring, so that the insert does not squeeze out.

now I looked at the Polish site, nevertheless przystawka do formowania ciastek i makaronu -only for model 886.5, for our model it will not fit in diameter

Apparently yes, by 987 they are not released, it's a pity.
Will have to adapt from other models.

[Selenia_Irisha]

How interesting about pasta nozzles, I did not know. But I have a meat grinder like Selenia_Irisha, Zelmer MM1200.80, and I can see such attachments will not work. So I will not even bother finding them.
I have another problem. I wanted to buy a tomato attachment and a screw shaft for my meat grinder. At first I could not find it, then I read not important reviews on it. I got sick! Now I stumbled upon it again and now I don't know if it is worth its price or not? All the same, the price for it is not small now. Maybe 8 who has such a nozzle? Can you share your impressions of how it works? Interested not so much as tomatoes, how the berries twist?

[Nelya]

Nelya, I do not know which one you are talking about, but I had attachments for a juicer in the kit. The meat grinder does everything well, but it is not designed for large volumes. A glass of juice - yes, a saucepan - unlikely. The meat grinder is not designed for long-term operation.

[Svetlana]

Yesterday I bought plastic attachments for a standard meat grinder in an ordinary household store

Svetlana, can you see a photo of these attachments? Interestingly, they are suitable for a domestic meat grinder?

Girls, excuse me - I won't be able to try them soon, it seems, until I got sick at the wrong time, I hope a common cold. Therefore, here's what I can, as they say:
On the left in Zelmera, as she got up, on the back side they seem to have a recess for centering on the meat grinder auger, but in reality, when you twist it, it somehow crumbles to one side ... 58 mm diameter on the ruler. They fit standard meat grinders, for example, I put a grill from Zelmer and a standard domestic one. On the right in the photo - how I got into a cast-iron Soviet one ... I hope it helps with something. I bought it in a household store for 65 rubles.

58mm diameter on a ruler.

M-dya, the gap will be too small, with a good load it will most likely be squeezed out.
As I expected, you need to put an iron washer, I don't know if they are of this diameter.

Girls, dear ones, help me out - I want to buy a knife from my hands, see, please, what condition can I take?