caprice23
Kokoschka, Lily, for some reason only now I saw the question
Here is my favorite dough Pizza oven # 5846

And of course on "you"




Quote: Scarecrow
If anyone needs it, I saw pizza chains in Metro again
I need! And there is no Metro. What is that!
Mirabel
Girls! remind plz what diameter pizza nets are suitable for a Ferrari? and how to use it?
Lanna
Girls, turned up here
Clatronic 3622
Princess 115003
I do not know where to ask - what is the fundamental difference between them?
If the price difference is 2 times, it is better to choose the Princess, right?
I wasn’t interested in them at all, I don’t know anything about such devices, everything seemed to be about the same. And now I'm reading it and I realized that you can't bake pies in Princess 03, only pizza? Clathronic expands 180.
Clathronic for 1600, and Princeska for 3300, only you need to solve it quickly ...
Masha Ivanova
Lanna, Svetlana! The Klatronic is a pizza maker type oven, but more of a grill type. You can bake pizza, the temperature is 250 degrees, that is, for our usual pizza like a pie. You cannot bake a tall pie in Klatronic, it is lower than usual pizza makers. You can bake all kinds of vegetables in it, from above they will be pressed with the top cover and will be like on a grill. This is in a nutshell.
Princess 115003 is a pizza oven. Real pizza. Its temperature is 400 degrees. Pizza is baked for 5-8 minutes (in clathronics about 15 minutes). Basically only for pizza. But there is also a separate form there. This is a tray for poetry. Although our ladies bake in the form of something like pies, it seems.
That is, these are two completely different stoves.
Mirabel
Svetlana, well, my opinion, both stoves must be taken
I love Clathron very much, and the Princess is like a Ferrari, well, she is also very cool!
Lanna
Well, you virgins, as always, Thank you "supported"! I already doubted, but here ... We just have small salaries in the outback, so I dissuade myself - and you can bake all this in the oven))
I also conceived reading about Ferarka already, thanks for confirming my assumptions) I think we can be a disease - not a month without purchases, and then "withdrawal"?
And I already promised not only to my husband, but even to myself ... A week ago - to NG, no, no! But it seems like not jewelry, and not a fur coat, everything to the family, everything to the family. And they don’t understand me? Where will I hide ...
For the price, both are good, right?
Although it seems like the Klatronic will be partially duplicated by the Multi-Baker, and such a high temperature in the oven as in the Princess cannot be achieved ...
Svetlana777
Quote: Lanna
But it seems like not jewelry, and not a fur coat, everything to the family, everything to the family.
I also argue the next purchase. Now for all the holidays I buy a thread for my family and then tell my husband - thank you for making such a gift
Quote: Lanna
And I already promised not only to my husband, but even to myself ...
you are not the only one, I, too, promised myself on oath to myself no more, there is no one to cook, everyone is in eternal travel, ... I have everything,

well, I just want a Ninja chopper (stops what to buy, I don’t know how) a good convenient rubbing and a planetary in the village (I already filled everything there, and yesterday I prepared a Tortilla, a Grass dryer one and a Samsushnitsa, I duplicate everything, it's time

I don’t know Klatronika, there is a GF completely forgotten - big for us, I’m going for a tortilla, bake the pizza I need in it,
Quote: Lanna
For the price, both are good, right?
Yes, both, Princeska is so much a freebie, I bought for 4100 for a stock and using thanks and thought I was lucky

caprice23
Lanna, Light, my personal opinion. Everything you bake in clathronic can also be cooked in the oven. Absolutely no loss of quality, and maybe even tastier. But if you like pizza like in a pizzeria, real and oven does not suit you, then you need to take the Princess.I didn’t like pizza in the oven, and in a tristar (see the usual "princess"), and in a tortilla too. I'm not a fan of pizza as "pie", which you get in the oven. Although with tambourines you can achieve a decent result.
In short, if the issue with money is acute and you are not confused on pizza, then sit back and keep your promise to yourself). Do not buy anything.




And if you really don't have the strength and you want to play, then take the princess. I have a tortilla, Tristar and Ferrari. And if I had to choose one of them, it would be a Ferrari (that is, your princess). Since both the tortilla and the tristar (well, the clathronic) will be replaced by an oven and pans.
But again, I will say that if you rarely bake pizza or like pizza "a la grandma's pie" (a lot of filling and a lot of dough), then the princess will not be in great demand by you, it may not even be accepted) Unless you just use the additional form that comes with ...




Quote: Mirabel

Girls! remind me plz what diameter of pizza nets is suitable for a Ferrari? and how to use it?
28 cm. How to use? ..
I stretch the dough, put it on the grid with my hands and collect the pizza on it. Then I send the whole structure to a preheated stove.
It can be different. Collect pizza as usual on the table and a spatula and transfer it to the grid and then send it all back to the oven
liliya72
caprice23Natasha, I completely agree with the choice of the stove!
Scarecrow
Lanna,

Sveta, if you promised your husband, don't buy anything. Endure. Keep your promises. I'm serious. Give me a pause. Then discuss the purchase with him. And you definitely don't need two, so don't waste your money.
Natalia K.
Quote: Scarecrow
And you definitely don't need two, so don't waste your money.
I completely agree with Natasha.
I have Clathron, Tortilla and a pizza maker. I use a pizza oven very often, and the rest is more idle.
Lanna
Thank you girls!
I ordered the Princess, but will arrive in a week or 1.5, at this time it is Ferarke I will read it, if I’m firmly convinced, I’ll buy it back, but no, I’ll refuse ...
Well, as promised; Of course, she didn't give a grudge, but she said that everything seems to be there and I won't buy anything in the near future, especially NG on my nose, my husband sarcastically said "aha-aha" ... These points in MVideo did not know where to write off, they have a combustion period came up (

I just want a stone for a very, very long time, I've already tried cast iron, and in clay and aluminum pans, baking bread in the oven is not the same ((Grandma baked Shanezhki with mashed potatoes from the oven in childhood - at least I want to learn something like that) oven, but nothing ...

Can you put a stone from a pizza oven in the oven?
caprice23
Quote: Lanna
Booked the Princess
What princess?
Lanna
Natasha, which is like your Ferarka)))
Princess 115003
Is there absolutely no height in it? Is it really only suitable for flat pizza? I just really hope the shanezhki bake in it))
Natalia K.
Quote: Lanna
Can you put a stone from a pizza oven in the oven?
LannaI don’t think the stone is suitable for ovens. It is 0.5 cm in height if I am not mistaken.
Quote: Lanna
Is there absolutely no height in it?
If the bubbles blow up decently, they will burn. The oven is then designed for thin pizza, and not for a tall pie or shanezhka.
With Ferarka, I think it will be the same. These are pizza ovens. IMHO.
caprice23
In the princess, instead of a stone, you can put a mold and make your own shanies




But I have a Ferrari, so it's better to ask around who has a Princess. What will bake there and what will not
Masha Ivanova
Lanna, Sveta! All oven stones are usually about 2 cm thick. The stone for the pizza oven is thinner than 1 cm. I don’t know how it will work in the oven, but it’s dangerous to stick it there. No matter how broken. And if it breaks, it means that you almost throw the whole Princess away.
Mirabel
Well, I don't know why everyone rejected Klatron like that ...
And he can partially replace the grill, if that ... cook chicken parts and bake vegetables ... and fry potatoes iiii ... probably Ossetian pie and khachapuri.
Scarecrow
I need! And there is no Metro. What is that!

Oh, I saw the current. Let me buy you as I’m in the Metro (if there are more, of course) and send it.
caprice23
Scarecrow, Nata, thank you very much for your concern. I already bought
sleepyhead
Good evening. Something I was disappointed in the pizza grid. I stopped baking the bottom with her - raw. And the top is burning.
Scarecrow
sleepyhead,

And mine is straight fried. Where are you putting the net? Ferrari?
caprice23
I'm great! Both the bottom and top will blush with the mesh as it should.
Sonya, Svetlana, at what temperature do you bake, how long and how long do you heat the stove?
sleepyhead
caprice23, Good morning. Natasha, I'm warming up on the mode for 5 - 5 minutes. I bake on the 4 - 7 and a half minutes mode. So bad without a grid. My dough is greased with oil and without a grid it sticks a little to the stone.
caprice23
Svetlana, it seems to me that the whole point is that there is a very short pre-heating time. Ferrari is recommended to warm up for 15 minutes. The stone does not have time to warm up in 5 minutes. Upper Ten will fry, that after 5, that after 15 minutes the same. But the lower Ten does not have time to warm up the stone in 5 minutes. And the bottom comes out raw. Try to heat up the oven harder.
Scarecrow
caprice23,

If mode 4 and 5 is not a Ferrari explicitly. There, everything ends with a three. And as in others - I do not know.

In general, in my instructions for the Ferrari it is written: warm up until the ready LED turns off (I have it blue and red - the network). Then wait until it is turned on again and then load the pizza. The instruction is in English, really.

And before the LED turns off, it heats up for exactly more than 5 minutes. And wait until the next turn on - it takes about 12 minutes in total. Sometimes I even stimulate it to turn on again - I will open the lid, wave a spatula over the stone)).
caprice23
I heat the stone up to 400 degrees (approximately). I even forgot, I haven't baked for a long time. I check it with a pyrometer. This is approximately 12-15 minutes. The surest way to work with a stove is to be guided by the temperature of the stone, not the time. This is a win-win. At this temperature, the top and bottom of the pizza have time to bake the same on the grid.
Mirabel
Ladies! What mesh diameter is needed for Ferrari?
And how should it be appropriated with flour or warmed up?
caprice23
Mirabel, Vika, diameter 28 cm. Warm up and sprinkle for what? I put it on a clean dry net and that's it)
Mirabel
Natasha, Thank you!
And how many nets are desirable for convenience?
Is one handy?
caprice23
With one I was not comfortable. It’s two. So that immediately after making the first pizza, put the second in the oven. With one mesh, I had to wait for it to cool down.
Scarecrow
Quote: Mirabel

Natasha, Thank you!
And how many nets are desirable for convenience?
Is one handy?

Best of all 2. I made the first pizza, laid it on the grid, laid out the filling, put it in the oven. At this time, you stretch the second piece of dough, put it on the second grid, put the filling and wait in line. With one grid, the epic drags on. You need to wait first when to cook 1 pizza, then for the grid to cool down a little.
Svetlana777
Quote: soneyka
on mode 5 - 5 minutes.
I hesitate to ask, but why don't you buy a pizza oven if you bake a pizza on a warm stone, it's cheaper to have a universal - any pizza maker and cook everything in it. Pizza bake for at least 10 minutes and bake for 5 minutes, sometimes less
sleepyhead
Girls, thanks for the advice I didn’t even think that the stone didn’t have time to warm up. I will definitely try to heat it for about 12 minutes. It is much more convenient to bake with a grid - it can be moved and removed, and it does not stick. And I really like the dough (Hut), but I stretch it, oiled, and then it sticks to the stone. It also sticks to the mesh a little, but not critical. Or maybe if I heat the stone more strongly, then it will not stick to the mesh at all. It rather does not stick, but enters the mesh a little.
Scarecrow
sleepyhead,

Let it be smeared with butter, but try to dust the side lying on the net with flour anyway and “smear” it with your hand. Let it be "greasy flour", but it will create a layer.

I do not remember, we are on "you" or "you".)) If anything - I apologize for the familiarity.
Svetlenki
Yes, oil at 400 degrees is better not.
Scarecrow
Quote: Svetlenki

Yes, oil at 400 degrees is better not.

I agree with you - it will smoke.Need a mesh and a lower temperature.
sleepyhead
Good evening! I baked a pizza with heating on the 5th setting for 15 minutes. Sprinkled a little flour on the net. Where it poured, the pizza did not stick, and where the flour did not hit, it stuck a little. Next time I'll sprinkle it harder. (I felt sorry for the flour) But in general, the pizza turned out well. I only baked for 9 minutes on mode 4. Nine minutes is probably a long time for pizza?
Thanks again for the advice on warming up the stone.
Svetlana777
Svetlana,
Quote: soneyka
I only baked for 9 minutes on mode 4. Nine minutes is probably a long time for pizza?
my opinion is a lot, I do not lower the temperature, and I bake for 5 minutes, if just the second, then 4 minutes is already enough.
marlanca
Girls tell me who bakes on the grid, what do you smear, sprinkle?
It stuck to me completely, could not tear it off, the entire bottom of the pizza remained on the grid ..., then also soaked this grid to wash it off the pizza remnants ...
so I think for a fig, I generally bought it, baked it on a Teflon rug and I was happy ...
Svetlenki
Quote: marlanca
what do you smear, sprinkle with?

I stretch / shape a circle on corn flour, then it on the wire rack ... Is the dough stuck or did the sauce hit the wire? It stuck to me only once, when it was poorly formed - there was a too thin section of the dough and the sauce leaked and stuck in one place to the grid ...
cleose
I also sprinkle it with corn flour, And Many thanks to everyone who recommended the grid, now with it I get pizza on any dough (including liquid dough from Anise), there are no problems with transferring the workpiece to the oven, it happens that it sticks when, as Sveta said , torn from being too thinly molded. without the grid, I could not transfer the workpiece to the oven normally.

marlanca
Quote: Svetlenki
Is the dough stuck or did the sauce hit the grid directly?

The dough itself adhered to the dough, I, too, seem to stretch it on corn flour .... well, apparently with my "handshake" I will have to continue baking on a Teflon rug ....
Svetlenki
Quote: marlanca
with my "handshake"

It is not accepted from you, does not correspond to reality. Are you sure you preheat your pizza in the oven before baking?

Wait, now someone else can give ideas why this is happening.
marlanca
Quote: Svetlenki
Are you sure you preheat your pizza in the oven before baking?

Yeah, I heat it for exactly 12-15 minutes and bake for 5 minutes ...
Scarecrow
marlanca,

Rub the normal flour onto the side of the dough, which will lie on the net. I've been baking on a grid for several years, different types of dough, in the oven and in the oven - it doesn't stick! And you won't, it just didn't work out well.
Natalia K.
Gal, try to dust the grid with corn flour lightly, and then transfer the already formed pizza to it. Then gently, without pressure, spread the sauce and lay the filling, etc. The base should not stick to the net if it is not pressed. Watch Oleg Vozny's video as he lays the base on the net. Start looking at 1m 13 sec.


marlanca
Quote: Scarecrow
Rub the normal side of the dough with flour,

I remember now, and something vague doubts torment me that I forgot to smear it with flour at all ..., here I am a dull, for some reason it seems to me, I thought that it would not stick on the grid without flour ...
Quote: Natalia K.
Watch Oleg Vozny's video as he lays the base on the net. Start looking at 1m 13 sec.

Thank you, I will definitely look, well, apparently I didn't sprinkle the pizza on the grid ...

Tomorrow I will do it again, I will definitely write ....)))

Natalia K.
Quote: marlanca
I will definitely write ...
we wait until tomorrow.
I'm also going to make pizza tomorrow
Svetlenki
Quote: marlanca
I completely forgot to smear it with flour ...

I don’t smear either. And I honestly don't understand how flour (corn) can stick to the net. Nata, sho, really, sticks ???

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