Omela
I had my first Bosch meat grinder, the sleeve flew immediately on the twisting of the leaves (I make tea).

I like this one, the meat goes very easily. Now they plan to make hunting sausages for the holiday. They never buy ready-made minced meat. I bought a cat for a long time, so she did not eat. But when I twist the meat, she yells like a victim.))
Svetlenki
Omela, about the sausages is interesting. On the ixbt website, in the review, they said that coarsely minced meat is ground even more during stuffing into the casing, because there is no round knife attachment with one large hole in the middle ... It would be great to hear your impressions

I have Bosch as part of a combine ... I have already changed this shoe twice ... I don’t use it - a white-handed, not a meat grinder (my personal opinion)
Franky
Svetlenki, order. check, you will not like it or you will see it twice cheaper - you will send it back. There are no problems with Amazon returns. They will take the money only when they send it. And I would not expect special discounts on new models. Many manufacturers show new models in February-March at exhibitions, and I would expect that they rather want to get rid of the old ones. but let them correct me if anything
Svetlenki
Quote: Franky
There are no problems with Amazon returns.

Yes, Yul, I love Amazon dearly. If I can, I always buy from them, even if a couple of USD is more expensive. In general, there are no problems with returns. You may just be unhappy with a device or thing. No questions asked to approve returns within a year. And you don't need to keep any receipts - everything is in the purchase history.
torturesru
Quote: Svetlenki
do you know what else bothers me - why minced meat is SO MUCH cheaper than regular meat, even frozen? WHAT do they put in there? We have really minced beef and mutton 20 percent cheaper than the cheapest beef and lamb
They can throw cuttings, which, in fact, are much more expensive, add the same chicken, soy protein is used in industrial minced meat. In general, you can mix a lot, including also meat with an expired shelf life. Then some storage parameters are somehow updated :)
torturesru
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Panasonic disappears - it is stupidly absent in Europe, Bork (although it is German) - is also absent on Internet sites in Germany ...
So all the same, returning to the rupture node in CASO, it will be possible to repair it yourself if suddenly? Of course, I have 1 year for a return-exchange, but I would like to know right away.
1. Bork will not be in Germany. this company has only a German name and the glory that it is Germany, a Russian invention in the style of "Vitka", "Scarlett" and other "Parisian-Nizhny Novgorod firms". Everything is done simply, a completely tiny firm is bought in the West and in Russia it is presented as "German-English-Austrian". It seems that only France does not approve of this. You have a Bork meat grinder under your true name gastrorag, by the way, there are also gastroragi in Russia, only Bork is cheaper than analogues and the sellers are unpleasant - expensive delivery, do not like retail, in general, they are designed for industry, not for home.
2. Well, theoretically, you can do everything yourself, but this is to disassemble the gearbox and find this gear somewhere. I do not see spare parts for KASO on sale, service centers in Russia are refusing to sell spare parts, only repairs, maybe over the hill in another way. But I myself would not have climbed into the gearbox, you put it wrong there and the engine can be screwed up. Another thing is that how often it will break down, my old Tefal meat grinder, obviously plastic, has been working quietly for the tenth year. There you need to jam well so that the part bursts.
Svetlenki
Franky, a German Amazon refused to deliver a meat grinder to the UK

I even contacted the customer department - they wrote that they could not deliver.

I'm going to sob into my pillow
Svetlenki
torturesru, thank you for the details. I will now inform my brother-techie, as he is in charge of the choice and purchase of a meat grinder for mom in Crimea. Let them think.
Franky
Svetlenki,: girl-th: then wait, probably, when she really appears. Then, maybe, the delivery options will change. I just looked around Germany (quite superficially, though) - this model is not yet on sale anywhere, they write that deliveries are expected soon.
Franky
Quote: torturesru
Bork will not be in Germany. this company has only a German name
It's right. Just as, apparently, Sigmund and Stein (sounds like German, but the spelling is very fancy)
torturesru
Quote: Svetlenki
German Amazon refused to deliver a meat grinder to the UK
I even contacted the customer department - they wrote that they could not deliver.
I'm going to sob into my pillow
Write on their Facebook and ask how to buy in the UK. In principle, I do not know how it is in Europe, but Russians often in Europe have to buy through intermediaries in the country where they sell something. In any case, the same British ebay has a very negative attitude to shipments to Russia, but to the name of an intermediary office without any problems. Maybe in your case there are such?
Svetlenki
Quote: Franky
Then, maybe, the delivery options will change.

Franky, Yulchik, this is my only hope ... The only thing that can be finally horrible and irrevocable here is the manufacturer's ban on deliveries to the UK from Germany ... Although now I checked - CASO vacuum cleaners, for example, are delivered / sold to the UK from Amazon.

And I already dreamed of homemade minced dumplings ...

Quote: torturesru
Write on their Facebook and ask how to buy in the UK.

torturesru, thanks for the good advice, but here it is the idea to buy through the German Amazon - everything is cheaper by 30% in comparison with English sellers on German marks, and even if suddenly something happens during the year, then

1) German Amazon has an English-language option for contacting customer support
2) Return will be no problem with the shipment at the expense of the seller.

For me, it’s like my customer’s peace of mind. The thing is not cheap

It's easy for me with a British Ibei - the paper is tied to a card plus delivery to a British address ... A little more expensive, but again the security of the transaction
Lerele
But I ordered it all the same, my soul could not stand it
Only when they send it, I don't know, they write that they will report it by mail.
Masinen
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Maria, manufacturers should encourage you for marketing! You are so smart - the videos are cool and you!

Svetlana, thanks for the kind words
What I want to say is that the meat grinder is still a novelty, we have it just appeared.
torturesru, by the way, I have not seen an analogue of Bork Gastrorag here, but in Germany you can buy safely and the price is lower than we are sold here.

Caso has an advantage in price, and in reliability and style it can be compared to Bork. Fastening with one movement, elimination of backlash by 100 percent, like in Bork.

Lerele, well, you're done, ha))) I resisted for a long time))
torturesru
Quote: Masinen
By the way, I have not seen an analogue of Bork Gastrorag here, but in Germany you can buy safely and the price is lower than we are sold here.
It's also a difficulty for me:
Only this, rather, is not an analogue of Bork, but Bork's face on someone else's face :) For the price, yes, trade taxes in Russia are at least a third higher. In Moscow, there is also a special tax actually "on Moscow."
Caso has an advantage in price, and in terms of reliability and style it can be compared to Bork. Fastening with one movement, elimination of backlash by 100 percent, like in Bork.
Only Bork has a circuit breaker, as the first stage of the fuse, and KASO focuses on the safety sleeve on the gear, that's cheaper. Backlash yes no, this is the essence of the clamping structure itself, where, like in Philips, Mulek and Tefaley, we insert and rotate along the grooves - the backlash is simply constructively laid. This is not even considered a wrong job, just like the models with a pressure screw - Panasonic.
torturesru
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I will say so. a good grinder is almost an eternal thing. My Brown has already changed the knife for 20 years, probably 2 times. Well works and works. Not too often, but reliable. will outlive us all.In terms of durability, it surpasses (should, at least) all newfangled multicooker
That's right, my old Panasonic radiotelephone died only a year ago - a capacitor leaked out, and there is no point in soldering, it worked for 15-16 years, now the "warranty period is + 1-2 years." Things are programmed to "die" after a guarantee, there is no point in making them eternal when new models appear. Compare a professional cast iron pan and a nonstick too :)
Lerele
Quote: Masinen
Lerele, well, you're done, ha))) I resisted for a long time))
Yeah, but you finished me off
Franky
Quote: torturesru
professional cast iron frying pan and nonstick :)
we have good solid "cast iron" pans cost more than any coated
Franky
Lerele, Congratulations! (will you invite for dumplings?)
Lerele
Franky, easily !! you just have to wait for the meat grinder
By the way, on February 6, I'm going to the courses, cake decorators, I threw a link.
I'll try what it is, I'll write later.
And if we do it together, so generally with open arms
Svetlenki
Lerelechka, I congratulate you!!! You will not regret. Today I made lasagna from homemade minced meat - mine have never smacked my lips like that ... Everyone asked, what did I do differently this time, what turned out so delicious? There you go!

Homemade minced meat from the meat grinder that I return - Lacor. I really hoped that the brand, which positions itself as a manufacturer of equipment for professional chefs, will do fine .. each pulp will normally sweep away

Quote: Lerele
By the way, on February 6, I'm going to the courses, cake decorators, I threw a link.

Lerele, and there will be mostly mastic or tasty creams? Here we have soooo love for mastic on cakes, but we just don't understand and don't accept it ...
Lerele
Svetlenki, Thank you!! Yes, I will not regret it, but will I often do minced meat if I can just buy it, or maybe I will, we'll see. It will just be a good grinder and suddenly !! What I want to do, but I have it.

There will be mastic, I am already doing creams, my cakes are delicious, now I decided to deal with beauty here ..

Masinen
Quote: torturesru
It's also a difficulty for me:
Only this, rather, is not an analogue of Bork, but Bork's face on someone else's face :)
I climbed in, looked, there are no such models that are sold under the brand B ...))
I'm telling you. they are represented only in Germany. well, or Europe in general.

Ksati is not Gastrorakh, but Gastrobak is a company for Europe, and initially it is a Breville company, like that)
All products under the Gastrobag brand are presented on Amazon German.

And what we sell is already professional equipment for cafes and restaurants, so they don't want to sell to individuals. by the way, in the Metro you can watch this brand live)

Lerele, Franky, girls, let's make dumplings !!!!
Lerele
Masinen, we would give it, but I don't know how long it will have to wait. Let's check.
Franky
Lerele, yeah, tell me later.

Decorating is interesting, but "mastic" cakes are somehow not for me ... Nice, but it's hard and sweet for me to eat them. Sugar flowers are a thing!


We will agree on dumplings
Svetlenki
Lerele, let me know how the meat grinder will come - then I'll catch it on the Amazon!
Lerele
Svetlenki, I'll brag about it and take a photo ..
Masinen
I came to you with a recipe, depicted sausage without having a shell for this))
It turned out well, the whole report is in the recipe))

Beef-pork sausage (Masinen)

Meat grinder CASO FW 2000
Omela
Beautyaaa! Yes with fresh thyme !!
shl. I also got a piece to be thawed on sausages, but oh I have shells.
Masinen
Quote: Omela
but oh I have a shell.
You are happy, and I never had time to buy. So the holidays will pass, so I'll start looking))
Omela
FSE, the shell is over. I used it for five years.


Sausages "Hunting" (from elk meat) (Omela)

Meat grinder CASO FW 2000
Franky
Lereleit looks like the grinder is about to make the public happy with its presence. Already one seller has appeared and Amazon writes that they will soon have it. It's time to look for a free shelf
Lerele
Franky, but I have silence, they do not write anything. for some reason waited for news today, but no.
Franky
LereleI think it will be soon. take a look at the amazon - some seller even has them in stock. I didn’t order myself, but in active fans :-)
Lerele
Franky, yes, I'll wait, I'm not in a hurry. Although, to be honest, I wait, I drop in all the time
Svetlenki
Lerele, Franky, and how I wait ... I look at Amazon in the morning and in the evening ... The day before yesterday they for some reason reduced the price of it by 1 euro in the morning, then they really raised it by the evening ... I thought, maybe these movements are for something ... Let's wait, sir

Mom was ordered a meat grinder - on the way. There are no problems in Russia along the way
Omela
Today I am a Heroine !!! My feat

Mini chebureks (Omela)

Meat grinder CASO FW 2000
Masinen
Come on, read your recipe and enjoy the feat))
Lerele
And they sent me a meat grinder, on Wednesday there will be
Franky
Lerele,
All right. Another life will go, you will see Reve with his kind of minced meat will nervously smoke on the sidelines
Lerele
Franky, but I just bought a box today, as it were minced meat.
Now I would like to find where meat is cheaper to get, otherwise beef is at least 7 euros kg
Franky
Lerele, among the Turks ..
Svetlenki
Lerele, Congratulations. My mom is already using it in full. We have already felt the difference in minced meat for manti. We made mutton through the largest wire rack - super! We are satisfied with the quality of the grinding.

Unfortunately, the German Amazon refuses to send me a meat grinder
Masinen
Quote: Lerele

And they sent me a meat grinder, on Wednesday there will be
When you get it, tell us what you came with.
Lerele
Franky, so I announced the Turkish price, in a roar it is even more expensive.
Svetlenki, maybe they will appear on ebee, they can send them there.
Masinen, I'll even take a picture, but what can there be different equipment?
Masinen
Lerele, well, that's interesting, in theory it should be the same.
Lerele
Franky, do you visit Fleischmarkt ?? It's a long way to go on tram 11, I don't remember the address, we drove before, then something stopped, maybe we need to start again.
Franky
Lerele, no, we are not that meat-eaters :-) I have never heard of such a thing.
Lerele
Franky, and we studied there on language courses nearby, so we know from there. And now the meat grinder will come, so maybe I'm driving it there. We have to ask around, maybe someone was recently.

Carl-Benz-Str. 16, 60386 Frankfurt, Fechenheim

Franky
Lerele,

Ah, got it. Thanks to the devil!


For minced meat, I often buy beef goulash in Aldi, cheaper than in roar, already cut into convenient pieces and moderately fat. and what kind of meat is inside, from happy cows or not, we still don't know ...

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