Snezhana
Please advise .. Summer is going to be hot, but I still can't choose .. Buy cheap or expensive. They say that they are no different
langsam
And why is it needed in the summer? As a rule, in the northern hemisphere in the summer the air contains enough humidity, while in winter it really is, during periods when there is no rain, the air is too dry, which affects the skin, immunity, etc. And if you increase the humidity in the heat, it will be even worse - not will endure.
Pani Olga
I bought an inexpensive one, Bimatek, about 2000 rubles. Buy cheap, because we have such green mold inside the volume, poured water from under the filter a couple of times, but not boiled. The water also bloomed. Now I use it only for flowers on the glazed loggia, and I bought it for my daughter when in winter the cough tortured me.
Snezhana
I heard that heat, on the contrary, is easier to tolerate with a humidifier?!?!?! ..
But about blooming water, I don't even know ... I need to pour water from the filter, we have water in the filter all the time and it does not bloom ...
Pani Olga
and I had water from the filter. My daughter is allergic and there is such a problem that an ultrasonic humidifier sprays everything together, both water, microbes and mold spores. And for good, the water should be distilled. Or he chooses a steam humidifier, it brings the water to a boil and humidifies it with sterile steam. Otherwise, you deliver the microbes to the baby's lungs in the most convenient form for rooting in the lungs, in a humid environment.
All filters contain microbes, they are simply much less numerous than in tap water.
And humidity is needed in the region of 40-50%, now in summer it is almost like that. But in winter, when heating okoo 10-18. I can see it at the weather station. Then a dry cough appears and germs are more easily transmitted from carriers. And what is even more surprising, with a humidity of about 80%, microbes are not transmitted, apparently steam interferes with them.
torturesru
Quote: Snezhana

I heard that heat, on the contrary, is easier to tolerate with a humidifier?!?!?! ..
But about blooming water, I don't even know ... I need to pour water from the filter, we have water in the filter all the time and it does not bloom ...
Not right, at high humidity you will get the effect of a rainforest, when sweat from the skin either does not evaporate or evaporates a little. But this cools the body. Heat is well tolerated in dry air, the same temperature in a desert and in a wet forest will be tolerated differently. Another thing is that dry air dries the skin and mucous membranes, especially in winter, when heating devices are working. I like to put ceramic vaporizers on the batteries. Nothing blooms in them. If you want a confident microclimate, then take ultrasonic humidifiers, preferably Boneko, it has the function of heating the evaporated water, and the microbes will die, and if you have flowers, then they do not like cold aerosols from ordinary evaporators.
kasarabka
Why do you want humidifiers, not ionizers !!!! The benefits of humidifiers are very relative .... Air ionizers fill the room with negatively charged ions, like after a rain. It is easier to breathe, it is indicated for allergies of various types, the dust in the room becomes less, because it settles on the ionizer, gives a slight coolness (of course, not like from the air conditioner). I have a Russian production, very happy, especially when the baby.
Pani Olga
But do not turn on the ionizer for sure, no one measures the level of ozone emitted in them, and this is one of the most poisonous gases when the MPC is exceeded.
Rustic stove
Quote: Snezhana

Please advise .. Summer is going to be hot, but I still can't choose .. Buy cheap or expensive. They say that they are no different

Humidifiers are not needed in summer, but in winter, when heating is on and the air is dry in the room. And in the heat, if you still create high humidity, it will be very difficult.
GruSha
But do not turn on the ionizer for sure, no one measures the level of ozone emitted in them, and this is one of the most poisonous gases when the MPC is exceeded.
oh, also this ... we have an ionizer on around the clock

And our humidifier is now resting ... Now the humidity is kept around 50, this is normal. But during the heating season, even drops to 25 ...
Snezhana
Quote: Olga Pani

But do not turn on the ionizer for sure, no one measures the level of ozone emitted in them, and this is one of the most poisonous gases when the MPC is exceeded.
I also heard that the selection of an ionizer should be taken very seriously .. but I heard that the best ionizer is a huge piece of salt and in the middle there is a light bulb, we gave this to my grandfather an asthmatic, it seems like it became easier for him to breathe .. it will be necessary to think ..
I keep thinking, but time goes by
torturesru
This is not really an ionizer, an air ionizer creates an increased number of negative oxygen ions with the help of electrical discharges, but it also develops ozone, such as an effect after a thunderstorm, what do you have - when this piece of salt heats up in the air, the concentration of table salt ions increases, an effect is created salt caves, such as Transcarpathia, now in Moscow there are such wellness rooms, lined with plates of salt. People with lung diseases are really much easier in them. This thing does not emit ozone.
musyanya
Do any of the inhabitants of this forum have an air sink ??? :) A friend wants to buy a Boneko1355, the price is high with us, will there be any sense from the device or is it more advertising? We read other forums, about Venta, with similar parameters, but still doubts remained. A friend's child is allergic, often has colds, at home the unbearable heat-air is very dry, the lips of the skin suffer, in the morning, the first thing in the morning for a glass of water is running, thirst torments. She has an air ionizer. One-room apartment (small). Maybe I need it - I also have an ionizer, which everyone scolds (I still turn it on in the kitchen, but I'm already afraid) - super plus turbo, it's not hot in the apartment, but it's dry, apparently - flowers disappear, dry skin, lips dry too ... (Although we dry the clothes in the apartment every day, there is no balcony-). I would like to know the opinion of ordinary people who have these sinks ... Do we need it? (The point is in their cost - we already have 7,500 thousand, they would be a little cheaper, they would buy without hesitation and check on ourselves ... the device is worse than an ultrasonic humidifier in terms of humidification efficiency, then is it worth taking one, because it washes the air in significant sizes or not, we also do not know.
shiva
I bought a BORK ultrasonic humidifier a few years ago, not cheap.
Impressions are so-so - of course it humidifies the air, only the fan is noisy and inside there is a rather annoying sound of falling drops. It is advisable to fill the water with distillate (bought at the pharmacy), otherwise a specific "haze" will form in the room after a few hours.
Now I'm thinking about washing the air. It seems that Venta has good reviews.
musyanya
We will probably take boneko (me and a friend). I will describe my personal impressions and my friends. Clarified that in boneko you can not change the rod, not fatal. And it is difficult to buy it from us, there are few such stores. One asked, not for sale.
Rezlina
We have Boneko for almost 3 years. Really like. The only thing that annoys me is the periodic "boole-boole-boole" in the middle of the night ... not quiet at all. I want to see new ones ... maybe they work quietly.
musyanya
Yes, I've seen them gurgle, some like them, some don't. A friend warned about this. And I ... My child, when falling asleep, emits 10-20-30 minutes of toad trills (as they sing in the forest in the evenings), he likes it (2 years 11 months) and in combination with this gurgling you can imagine that I sleeping in a swamp ...
musyanya
My friend Svetlana bought a 1355 sink (7,690 rubles) yesterday.There is still no limit to her husband's indignation, he was against it before and now continues to assert that the device is absolutely useless and still gurgles every hour. I warned her that moisture saturation goes from 2-3 days to 1.5-2 weeks. The humidity, apparently, has not increased significantly yet, BUT during the night (about 12 hours) 7 liters of water evaporated from Sveta ... She flooded it in the morning, then she will report on the consumption. In general, Sveta noticed that it was as if it had become even a little cooler in the apartment, and the air near the sink is really very fresh, like after a rain. Another question arose. The sellers said that the device must be turned off periodically, that is, it must not work around the clock, that it must rest (what, excuse me?). Rezlina, have you turned off for rest?
kt1889
We have been using Boneko for a year now. We bought it when my husband developed an allergy to ragweed last year. It works all year round, no one pays attention to gurgling anymore. Two months a year (August and September, when ragweed blooms here), my husband feels normal only at home and on the South Coast. All his allergic manifestations in the apartment are much weaker.
And for the first time I felt the smell of pillows and blankets in the apartment.
In addition to washing the air, an air purifier and an ionizer (periodically) work in the apartment.
musyanya
kt1889: "And for the first time I smelled pillows and blankets in the apartment."
Sorry, did not understand what it means ??
I'll pass on valuable comments to a friend, I think it's very interesting.
kt1889
Down pillows and blankets are my dowry, which my grandmother prepared for me 10 years ago. Despite occasional cleaning, they smell of feathers and down. I didn't notice it before.
And another valuable observation about the benefits of washing and air purification: during the renovation, a one-room apartment was made from a 2-room apartment, the kitchen was combined with a room, a corridor and a hallway. When cooking some dishes, in spite of the powerful hood, persistent odors remained, now they disappear in half an hour.
musyanya
kt1889, thanks! And then I was already told here (on another forum) that she does not wash the dust in the air much, she copes right worse than the ill-fated super-plusturbo. I can compare when I have it. They also told me about the washing vacuum cleaner. And first of all I cleaned the seemingly absolutely white and clean mattress on the bed and looked at the water - it immediately became clear to everyone that they had bought it for a reason (the water was gray-black).
musyanya
That's it, I bought a sink 1355, there is no limit to my delight !!! !!!!!!! It works for 20 minutes, the air became much more pleasant, it became easier for me to breathe !!!!! Near the holes there is generally indescribable freshness !!!!!! The child liked the "Bubbles" (the bubbles make him laugh - waiting for their next appearance, sits near the sink and makes the toy dog ​​breathe this fresh air. You can safely throw out the super plus turbo. I had to buy a sink for a long time, but I still doubted ... The main criterion for the efficiency of the sink in my apartment is that my nasal mucosa is now of normal humidity for the first time since the beginning of the heating season (I used to suffer from dryness, terrible discomfort !!). Let's see how my flowers will appreciate the purchase (jasmine and 2 ficus plants have dried up). everyone for the comments !!!
kt1889
Musyanya, congratulations on your purchase and be always healthy!
An interesting note about flowers, all my indoor flowers over the past year have greatly increased in growth and beauty. I don't really care for them, I just water them. And she attributed this beauty to her some kind of mysterious abilities (like a light hand). And now, after reading your message, I realized where the flowers come from. Humidity in the room is within 65%. The apartment has a constant temperature of 25-27, autonomous heating works.
musyanya
... My husband's apartment was always cold, and three additional heaters always worked. The flowers were all right. 2 years ago, for the first time in 20 years, it suddenly became better to "heat" the batteries - great (without heaters) it got warmer, but the flowers began to deteriorate immediately. Last year they disappeared, this year they disappeared, all the leaves of the jasmine have flown around - only the stems remain, and so on.I poured 1.5-2 liters of water into coffee trees a day - everything dried up, skip a day - everything withers. Can jasmine come to life with a sink?
In 2.5 hours, 4 cm in the water tank evaporated. It has become noticeably more comfortable!
Thank you for your congratulations!!!!
drying
Tovarischi! Has anyone heard of the ionizing air purifiers advertised on satellite TV on the department store channel? I am allergic and in general I would like to breathe purified humidified air - do you think the product I named is really good?
musyanya
I noticed such changes: the TV screen stopped electrifying completely. The air everywhere already (in 2 rooms and the kitchen) is not dry, the nose and lips have ceased to dry. Only a day has passed, and the water in the sump has already become noticeably dirtier - and the distribution of dirt in the sump is not uniform: the water is cleaner from above, much dirtier to the bottom, and rags have appeared. About 7 liters of water evaporated during the day. It gurgles strongly, of course, but we get used to it gradually (I was especially worried that my husband would not like it). Judging by the amount of dirt in the water, the car wash in terms of the quality of air purification in our house is significantly ahead of the ill-fated superplus turbo. (y) Very happy !!!!
musyanya
Remember I said that I had dried flowers despite the daily watering?
A week has passed since the purchase of the sink, I wondered how the plant would feel that the humidity had increased if it had only stems and not a single leaf? I still could not find the answer to the question, but my jasmine came to life. Its stems seemed to have intensified the green color, and a new (!) Green shoot appeared below. I have a horrifying photo of jasmine (a week ago). And yesterday I took a photo of the escape. It is still small, there is garbage on the ground, because of it it is difficult to see it - the photos are not very good. Grow up, I'll take a picture. Humidity rose to 33-34% at my house. A friend has up to 33%. Evaporates two tanks of water per day ...
anna
WE HAVE ALSO ORDERED AIR WASHING, WE HAVE A CHILD ASHMATIC. WAITING FOR WHEN YOU WILL COME. MY BROTHER HAS ALREADY HAS, VERY SATISFIED. 7 LITERS EVAPORATES IN 12 HOURS. THE APARTMENT IS A LOT COOLER, WITHOUT WASHING THE HEAT WAS SCARY. 28-29 DEGREES. WE LIVE IN THE HARD NORTH AREA, COME FROM FROST AND EVEN THE FACE DOESN'T BURN IN THE HEAT, AS IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
Rezlina
Quote: jane

They bought me a gift for the New Year Boneko AOS 2055D.
It's been working for a day already, you can't hear it at all
We are waiting for the effect

Congratulations!
Are you sure you can't hear the water gurgling sometimes? I have a previous model, and if this flaw is corrected in the new one, then I will definitely buy it. Please watch
Anna Makl
I have Boneko too. It works all the time in winter, despite the presence of a large aquarium and frequently opened vents. The air is very dry from the heating. Gurgles only when we put a container of water in the apparatus. Then it will fill up with water and stop gurgling. The markings have worn off, so the model is not identifiable.
mish
I read this Temko and told her husband. He said that this is a very necessary purchase, because in winter the whole family suffers from dry nasal mucosa and as a result we get sick, and therefore it is necessary to study in detail the issue of this unit. So we will study !!!
Rezlina
Quote: Anna Makl

I have Boneko too. It works all the time in winter, despite the presence of a large aquarium and frequently opened vents. The air is very dry from the heating. Gurgles only when we put a container of water in the apparatus. Then it will fill up with water and stop gurgling. The markings have worn off, so the model is not identifiable.

Water during operation of the humidifier gradually evaporates and, therefore, flows periodically from the reservoir to the sump. In theory, it should gurgle if it gurgles at the very beginning. Maybe you weren't paying attention? At night, when the silence is very stressful
mish
Silence is very important for me! I sleep lightly. Owners of sinks, please tell us which sink is subjectively the quietest? I looked in the internet, found only in one place a mention of Boneko - the noise level is no more than 25 decibels.But it is very loud for a comfortable stay in the room even during the day, but what about the night! Maybe someone knows the sound parameters of other sinks?
Rezlina
Quote: mish

Silence is very important for me! I sleep lightly. Owners of sinks, please tell us which sink is subjectively the quietest? I looked in the internet, found only one place mentioning Boneko - the noise level is no more than 25 decibels. But it is very loud for a comfortable stay in the room even during the day, but what about the night! Maybe someone knows the sound parameters of other sinks?

Let's wait what jane says
I haven't turned on my sink for a long time ... my child woke up from it at night ... and I went with him
and the husband does not hear anything, well, if only a couple of times
jane
I report: It gurgles once every 3-4 hours, but very quietly, at night I turned it on (the sink) on a quiet mode and, frankly, I did not hear any "gurgles" at all. Probably less water is consumed in quiet mode. The bread maker from the kitchen, if I put bread in the morning, is much more audible in my one-room Khrushchev.
And also such a question: the unit is working for the third day, the humidity almost immediately increased from 18 to 37% and does not rise anymore, although I set the desired 55%. I wonder if it's a matter of time or what? According to the passport, my model should master, in my opinion, 20 square meters. m, and I have 17 in total ...
Rezlina
Quote: jane

I report: It gurgles once every 3-4 hours, but very quietly, at night I turned it on (the sink) on a quiet mode and, frankly, I did not hear any "gurgles" at all. Probably less water is consumed in quiet mode. The bread maker from the kitchen, if I put bread in the morning, is much more audible in my one-room Khrushchev.
And also such a question: the unit is working for the third day, the humidity almost immediately increased from 18 to 37% and does not rise anymore, although I set the desired 55%. I wonder if it's a matter of time or what? According to the passport, my model should master, in my opinion, 20 square meters. m, and I have 17 in total ...

In my quiet mode, kaaak will gurgle in the middle of the night
And how was the humidity measured? I have long wanted such a device that measures humidity
mish
Oh, I'm confused ... everyone has such different opinions about the silence - I don't know what to think ... If only the gurgle is heard once every 3-4 hours - it's bearable - you won't have time to wake up from a single sound entirely. But if the fan hums with a noise of 25 decibels, then this is already possible. How is it really? I would like to find out all the details before buying, but it is useless to find out in stores - there are either stupid consultants, or they will turn on the device, but at the same time music plays in the background in the whole store ... we bought a microwave oven like this - it did not seem noisy in the store against the background of music - now howl! -yes, and the story of the consultant was very different from what we saw at home in the process of work ... so and so ...
So I really ask for the smallest details about the sinks ... plizz ...
musyanya
I am reporting about my sink 1355. It works around the clock, at night in quiet mode. It gurgles very often (!!!!!), sometimes 2-3 times per hour! Even in quiet mode at night !!!! Drinks a lot of water accordingly. Our windows are wooden and old, sealed with rags, and on top with masking tape. Part of the moisture inevitably leaves through these frames, along with the heat, of course, so the humidity does not rise above 34%. In other rooms 28%, in the kitchen 25-dries apparently cartoon and a bread maker there. The batteries are terribly hot, but the apartment is no more than 22 degrees. (Outside -30-33 degrees) Windows need to be changed. The sink evaporates a lot of water per day, before this water was taken not from the sink, but from me, my husband and child and my flowers ... That's why it was so bad ...

mish, according to my husband, the sink gurgles quite loudly, sometimes it looks like a knock on a wooden door ... At night, this is how they “knock” 2-3-4 times per hour! We all sleep soundly, only the first night we woke up. BUT it is still very loud, they need to think of something better, improve it. Our smart people have tamed these gurgles, though not without prejudice to the quality of hydration. Leave the tank empty overnight, the water is only in the pan, well, it doesn't gurgle ...And in the morning they fill in a full tank and turn it on to the fullest when no one is at home ... The quiet mode is also noisy, the fan hums. But we also don't notice this especially, because the VCR often works louder (timer recording) than this fan in the sink. In the store, we turned on an empty sink, you can roughly imagine how a fan buzzes at different speeds. And comparison with the noise of a working system unit by the nature of the sound is similar, by the volume, it seems that the sink is louder at max. mode. The water has to really be changed after 3 days all completely, it seems to be soft, not dirty in the tap, but in the sink it turns into a yellow-green slurry, while odorless (as long as there is probably a silver rod) with a lot of insects (from flower soil take off).
Rezlina, humidity is measured by a hygrometer. They are different, and many lie about 5%. Sold in the same stores where HVAC equipment.
jane, the first two weeks after the start of the sink, there is an intensive absorption of moisture by things in the house (all wooden products, carpets, furniture, etc.). Therefore, if the sink evaporates enough water, and the humidity does not increase, it means that things are drinking water. Our clothes quenched their thirst, but moisture is lost through the windows ...
I will repeat already, I regret that in the past winters I did not have this sink, it is good with it !!!!!!!
Lenusya
Well, I've read a lot, now I think: maybe I also need an air wash.
Do you use it somehow in the summer?
And it only humidifies or even purifies the air.
If it helps with ragweed allergies, this is a big plus.
anna
and our sink also drinks a lot of water, it has been working for two weeks, the water has only been changed once. The water was yellow, and a lump of dust with an iron ruble somewhere. in the daytime mode it is quite loud, but this does not interfere, the TV and all that is constantly on, and does not interfere at night. There are bulki, but not often, I did not timed the time. Who has the same sink, write reviews, it is interesting to compare !!!
jane
I have a device that measures this humidity (a hygrometer?) Is built into the sink, and everything is displayed on the display. You can set a certain humidity and the sink should theoretically support it. By the way, the display is bright enough and glows at night, if it stands in front of your eyes, it will probably disturb someone's sleep
Scarecrow
My humidifiers are 4 years old. One is ultrasonic, the other is a simple evaporator (Delongee). Ultrasound performance is, of course, higher. I notice the difference right away. Even the skin on my face dries up when I don't turn it on for a long time. The humidity drops to 29-33% (comfortable humidity 40% -60%). The fault is, of course, heating. I have a weather station at home, so I constantly observe humidity.

It is possible to normalize humidity only a day after a long non-inclusion. True, the area of ​​the house is also large, you cannot compare with an apartment. The humidifier will saturate the apartment pretty quickly. In this regard, I did not even buy newer models, which automatically turn off when they reach the desired humidity. I never have excess moisture. Maximum 45%. This figure is only achieved with constant operation of both humidifiers. Only have time to pour water.

Curiously, the ultrasonic humidifier produces a white coating on everything when using tap water.

Sofim
Quote: Scarecrow

Curiously, the ultrasonic humidifier produces a white coating on everything when using tap water.

Therefore, it is necessary to pour distilled water into the ultrasonic one, otherwise breathe all these salts and it is not known which is worse ..
mish
And do not distilled water, as I understand it, pour into the sinks?
Scarecrow
I don't like distilled water. It is dead and overly sterile water in every way.

I pour spring water. Fortunately, there is a spring near the house (countryside), so we do not experience a shortage. There are no deposits from the spring water on the heating element of the steam humidifier, which means the water is very soft.
jane
My instructions say that you need to pour "cold tap water". We pour it.
I bought Mandarin essential oil at the pharmacy so that I could use all the washing functions, but it doesn't smell practically, very weak ... It's a pity for the money spent ...
Nadeyka
There is a lot of experience in purchasing and using humidifiers :))
In order:
1. First there was an ultrasound Boneco, bought when the son was born, and at 3 months he started having a runny nose, which could not be cured ... A doctor from the Institute of Pediatrics advised to humidify the air (from this the runny nose and passed).
Pros - it works very quietly, there is a built-in hygrometer and a humidification power regulator ...
Cons - you need to buy cartridges for it and wash ...
And they are not so cheap.
Another huge minus, purely individual, but which played a major role - from the cold "steam" I started bronchial obstruction (asthmatic herself), I had to give it to my mother-in-law, where he actually took root and works to this day.

2. Since the problem of humidification remained unresolved, we decided to purchase a steam humidifier.
Pros - the desired humidity level is reached very quickly.
There are no filters, those are additional costs.
You can carry out steam inhalations - which I have been using lately, when my son got sick (although they are not suitable for everyone, as is the case with my cold steam).
The device is very compact, easy to clean, the steam itself does not contain bacteria, since it is "boiled".
Plus - the low cost of the device.
Cons - the outlet temperature of the steam is 60 degrees - it is inconvenient if there are small children in the house (You will either have to put it in an inaccessible place, or turn it on at night ...)
Another big disadvantage - if used in a small room or a closed room, there is a possibility of wallpaper peeling and condensation on the windows - it is very powerful - for this, a timer was bought in Ikea, which turns on the device for 15 minutes once an hour (you can set any intervals).

3. In another room, it was decided to purchase an air sink. Acquired. Results: at first we wanted Boneco, but the sellers from Rusklimat reported that Electrolux is made on the same assembly line as Boneco, only the price is 3 thousand cheaper, and it is also lower.
A built-in hygrometer is useless there, since the washing method is based on natural humidification, and humidity with it cannot rise above 50% with it.
From the pros - almost no consumables - the rod should be enough for several years (the sellers said).
There is a minus - all these discs must be washed! (21 slippery thin plastic discs + slippery sump + water container, where the brush cannot get in) Boneco discs are not dishwasher safe
Another disappointment - Ionization, which is described in the technical specifications, is needed only as a way to collect dust at the inlet - the air comes out non-ionized at the outlet. To ionize the air as such, we were advised to purchase an air purifier.
Then the sink itself takes up a lot of space - to be honest, when I saw it, I was shocked.
Regarding work - it seems almost does not make noise in night mode ...
And as a summary - for those who want to buy it, you need to think how much you need it - a lot of money for a fairly simple task of humidification, and it takes up a lot of space, it collects dust, but it is not a vacuum cleaner (sellers laughed at me).
For the same money, it makes sense to purchase a separate air purifier-ionizer + ultrasonic or steam humidifier - keep within the lower amount plus save space (there are wall-mounted purifiers) - but this is purely my opinion.
anna
THANKS FOR THE DETAILED REPORT DUST THE TRUTH COLLECTES THE ELECTROLUX WASH WELL !!! HYGROMETER IS VERY LOST. EVERYTHING WOULD LIKE TO TRACK THE PERCENTAGE OF MOISTURE.
Nadeyka
I have it - humidity 45-50%. nevertheless, it is not needed there - it is impossible to achieve a higher degree of humidity, they put the hygrometer on more powerful devices, where an "overdose" of humidity can occur.
About dust - she collects it, but you will get tortured to wash the sink
Moreover, there is one question that plagues the water as the device works ...therefore, in order not to humidify the air with dirty water, again this miracle must be washed.
And the smell of oil is very much felt on the steam humidifier - probably, with the temperature there is more oil evaporation.

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