Replacing the oil seal bucket pan Panasonic SD-255

[Now the main thing when assembling.]

Replacing the gland of a bucket of a Panasonic SD-255 bread machine.
After 5 years of using the bread machine, it's time to change the oil seal. On sites and in repair services, I have not found my own oil seal anywhere. They sell only the complete drive, but it costs a lot. I had to look for a replacement for the oil seal myself. Since there are many women on the forum, I will try to describe in detail how to do it myself at home.

And so we start replacing the oil seal on the bucket of the Panasonic SD-255 bread machine.

On the market or on the Internet, we buy such an oil seal for a bread machine. Size 8x19x8.


After that, remove the drive from the bucket. Just shaking, we pull it towards ourselves. Be careful, there is a rubber O-ring between the bucket and the drive, do not lose it.



We take the old oil seal in the rim and completely remove the rubber seal itself from the back side, you should have a clean, metal rim and a black rubber gasket, which is visible from the bottom of the bucket. I removed with a small screwdriver.






When the retaining ring is removed, remove the shaft, lubricate it and put it back in place in the reverse order. There are washers on the shaft, do not lose them.



We turn the bucket over, put the rubber gasket, take the assembled drive and put it in place. We tighten 3 screws.

Now the main thing when assembling.

On the bucket in the place where the drive is installed and on the drive itself, there are marks (seen in the photo) during assembly, they must necessarily coincide.



Well, that seems to be all. I have a new oil seal for half a year, while the flight is normal. Even if you change the oil seal every six months, it will be cheaper than buying an entire drive. Successful repairs. Let your bread makers delight you with their work for a long time without repairs.

[STEEL56]

STEEL56, thanks for the detailed master class on replacing the oil seal. That would be such a report that year, otherwise the husband changed the oil seal in HP by trial and error. I found on the Internet that you can buy an oil seal in an auto store, such are my husband bought




There are 8 of them in the set, a year ago their price was 15 UAH. One was spoiled during replacement, and the second has already been installed since November 15 last year, the flight is normal. The husband in the oil seal cut a little so that he sat down well (maybe someone will need it for information).
Next time we will use your tip for lubricating the shaft with thermal grease for the printer.
In general, I looked at the prices of new buckets and was horrified, 4 years ago I bought HP at half the price. So we will revive our HP to the last gasp.

for some reason mine was in the middle

Because the section has a lot of topics attached to the top

And this will do? - 🔗

Yes, this is it. The main thing is that the size is 8x19x8. Where: 8mm-height; 19mm-outer diameter; 8mm pulley hole diameter.

The size of the gland of a bucket of a Panasonic SD-256 bread machine is 8x23.5x8, where can I find one?

Thanks for the master class. Very handy.
I have HP 2500. Worked for exactly 5 years. Shaft jammed. Well, at least I always checked by hand, twisted the paddle.
I think the jamming was provoked by the fact that after the bread was taken out there was nowhere to put the bucket and the husband returned it to the bread maker, where it stood for a long time. Usually, when it cools down, I poured water, stand a little, wash it and that's it.
Of course the oil seal was worn out and leaking. But this was revealed only during disassembly. Outwardly, I was tracking. The bucket itself, as well as the spatula, are excellent.
I baked every day. I didn't cook jam in HP.
Found an oil seal in the city 8x19x8 only to kenwood, red. Something like vindyurila. But bad. It is not elastic at all, it looks more like plastic.
True, he sat down tightly on the shaft. I doubt the tightness around the gland itself.I lubricated all the rubbing parts with a silicone thermal grease I'm trying to buy through the Internet, with a celindrical shape, without a rim.
And it seems to me that 8x18x7 would be better. There are such in nature.
He would sit tight. And it would be good to grease with a special sealant.
But so far. I baked it 2 times. While holding.

We take a new oil seal and carefully insert it into the place of the old one, which was removed (the smaller diameter of the oil seal is placed towards the old black rubber gasket that remained). We'll have to try a little, since the size of the metal rim inside is 18mm, and the size of the oil seal is 19mm. I personally put a new oil seal with a small screwdriver, pressing along the edges. When the edges come in, press down the gland from above along the entire plane

Hello, tell me, how did you remove the old oil seal from the cage with a black rubber band, if it is pressed? The native Panasonic oil seal has a metal stiffness ring that is pressed into the oil seal body itself. And you, as I understand it, tore off the inner rubber layer of the old oil seal, and the outer part remained between the rim and the cage body and inserted a new oil seal into the stiffness ring of the old one, as I understand it? In theory, to properly replace the oil seal, you need to roll out, or spread out the lip of the oil seal, pull out the completely old oil seal along with the rim, which has a size of 22/8/8 (not 19/8/8), insert a new oil seal and somehow press the edge of the cage back.

Added Thursday, 17 Nov 2016, 13:59

By the way, if you suspect that the stuffing box is out of order, the banal cleaning of the caked substance in the groove of the stuffing box can help, which can appear there and interfere with the stuffing box to perform its functions. In some cases, such an operation is sufficient to resume the operation of the oil seal.

My bread maker is still working with a replaced oil seal (from Kenwood). But I already ordered and received it quickly here 🔗 - like these ones

, and those that you write - 20/8/8, they do not seem to be for Panasonic?
Of course, after I disassembled this unit, I realized that it could have been cleaned, but my shaft was tightly jammed and the entire oil seal was suspiciously black.
The kenwoodwa has a slightly different gland shape, although it fits in size. And this one (ordered) has just such a shape that it is a black rubber ring or a gasket - it fits tightly on top of this gland.
I also thought that it was necessary to "press out" together with the ring or rim, and when I pulled out all the pieces of the old oil seal with tweezers, I realized that the oil seal could have been inserted into the rim and pressed together with it, but not so much that it was possible to speak on the inside and outside. Pieces from under this rubber gasket (which, as it were, no longer look like rubber) pulled out effortlessly, with clear edges. And not so that they had to be torn off from something.
Somehow like this.
(yes .. I bought the oil seal from Kenwood for 19 and suffered with it for a very long time, but the new ones - for 18)

[256]

My sister now has a problem with the oil seal, she 256 stove model. I disassembled this unit, there is an oil seal that you all buy here - everything is in order with it. And under it, that is, there is also a cuff, you either do not see it, or something, but no one wrote about it. This is a hollow rubber bushing (inner and outer ring), a spring is put on the inner one, which tightly compresses the shaft. I do not remember whether it was made separately from the oil seal or at the same time. I wanted to insert a photo, they don't give it to beginners (I didn't understand the meaning). When I dismantled mine a few years ago (255th), I also removed this spring and pulled it up so that it squeezed it harder. And when I dismantled my sister, this cuff completely fell apart, there was only one spring left. The spring does not stretch on what is left, there is no rim. And the oil seal that you buy - it remains intact. And it is not clear whether it is separate, or only the cuff has decomposed. I sent my sister to the store, she bought it for Kenwood, but that oil seal does not have a cuff, only the oil seal itself, as in the photo, but it’s from him. And the size in height is just 8, and the cuff is another 3-4 millimeters in addition. I did not see such on sale.

[blackjack111]

blackjack111, You are confusing something, you can see everything above in the photo, there is a spring in the oil seal.The scheme is as follows: a black protective ring covering the spring loaded oil seal, all this is pressed with a metal clip. An expanding key under the gland, then a washer.
All this economy rotates in a bronze-graphite bushing. From the bottom of the bucket, everything seems to be clear.

above in the photo everything is visible, there is a spring in the oil seal

Which photo shows the spring here? I can't see any of them ... My sister bought from Kenwood, there was no spring. Maybe, of course, they slipped her something wrong, in the photo of the store it was red, but they sold it white, like a vehicle. And, by the way, the vehicle looks like there probably is a spring (though you can't see it), but you can see that there is a side, and the one that sold the side to her sister did not.

Maybe tell me. HP Panasonic 254, worked for 8 years, and now the blade is spinning, but the dough is not kneading. That is, it cannot cope with the load, what could be the reason ???

[Marina]

Marina, this problem is solved by replacing the capacitor. You can read more in the topic
Problems and breakdowns of Panasonic bread makers.

See the links "Power drop during mixing".

and now the spatula is spinning, but the dough is not kneading

Start by checking the bucket, the spatula should rotate by hand in the bucket while standing on the table without visible effort

[Waist]

Waist, Thanks for the link.
sazalexter, spinning by hand, turn on the program, spinning too. But he doesn't knead with the dough. Buzzing and barely stirring food.

[wzik]

wzik, Marina, see the link above. Moreover, when replacing the capacitor, discard the drive belt and check how the bucket drive unit rotates without a motor.

Today, while washing the bucket, SD-2502 discovered that the shaft does not turn by hand. The bread turned out to be normal, but when baking, you see it jammed.
Where to start? Looking for a suitable oil seal and lubricant right away?

After 10 years of yuzanya, the 255th also flew an oil seal in a bucket. I found this topic and almost got bogged down with the choice of the oil seal, the topic is solid disinformation.
I am writing for those who have their hands from the right place and for themselves. Schaub do not forget (housewives can not read))
After disassembly, the composition became clear - a standard (probably silicone) gland with a size of 8 * 22 * ​​7 is pressed into an aluminum mandrel with an outer diameter of about 23.3, in front of it in the same mandrel there is a plastic gasket (here called black rubber) for thermal and fur protection of the oil seal ... The stuffing box is crimped by rolling the edge of the mandrel.
During disassembly, the oil seal (or rather its remnants) was removed in parts without problems (crimp spring, inner steel ring, etc.)
Before replacing, I cut off the crimping collar with a dremel (you can also use a file), picked up a new oil seal from HP LG with the same size, crimped it with a vice, the whole village was tight, it was not required to make the collar again.

I confirm that there is an error in the repair topic, the 8x19x8 oil seal does not fit, the installation is hindered by the remnants of the Panasonic oil seal in the form of metal fittings and a piece of silicone from the oil seal, it is practically impossible to insert the oil seal from Kenwood, it simply breaks. I changed it to the LG 8 * 22 * ​​7 oil seal, grinded the aluminum cage flange with a dremel, HP-300 grease, the rest can be seen in the photo

Changed to the oil seal LG 8 * 22 * ​​7

As I understand it, you inserted the oil seal into an aluminum case without a holder?

[Yuri]

Yuri, Alas, this is not a clip, but a part of the oil seal, or rather its metal reinforcement, that is, this metal part was inside the original oil seal. On the gland there was also a sealing ring-shaped spring, unfortunately it cannot be attached to the LG gland, the gland design is different

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, I understood you. I ordered yesterday for ali oil seals of this size, for LG. Buyers in reviews write that with a spring, although it is not visible in the photo

[I advise you to pay attention to the condition of the shaft when replacing the oil seal.]

The bucket drive ADE97A107 recently collapsed - I replaced it, but during the replacement I noticed that the shaft in the bucket somehow rotates with a creak.
Disassembly showed that under the oil seal everything was clogged with any burnt substance. that is, he does not really hold.
After cleaning, it turned out that everything is in order with the oil seal, but the shaft is very worn out, there are cavities, etc. The oil seal was changed a year ago and I just cleaned the shaft.
The shaft is lightly ground in the drill (pictured) and tightened the gland spring, but the entire ADA29A115 assembly may have to be replaced.
I advise you to pay attention to the condition of the shaft when replacing the oil seal.

the shaft is very worn out, there are cavities, etc.

Means not I alone noticed it! Apparently the Chinese are making shafts from some kind of low-quality stainless steel, which corrodes surface

Received today from Ali oil seals, replaced. Oil seal as stated by the seller for LG. But I was guided by the size. It fits perfectly to Panasonic, the size is the same.



If anyone needs it, feel free to order. The price at the moment for 2 oil seals is 133.25 rubles. + RUB 81.40 delivery. Unfortunately, I cannot give a link, I have no right as a beginner.

[Razval]

Razval, Brownie, verbal warnings.

When kneading, the bucket knot creaks, does it need to be changed? Tell me please 🔗 will fit the Panasonic SD-257? Thank you!

will fit the Panasonic SD-257? Thank you!

It's Skis, in the sense of LG. Do you want to disassemble and see this node? Prophylaxis may be required.

People, as a result, what kind of oil seal is there, the branch began with a size of 8x19x8, and below they already write that it is wrong, but this one - 8x22x7 - so what is it really? The entire drive shaft - ADA29E165 is certainly much more expensive, from 2000 rubles ...

[Vladimir-K]

Vladimir-K, I changed it to the LG 8 * 22 * ​​7 oil seal, grinded the bead of the aluminum cage with a dremel, HP-300 grease, the rest can be seen in the photo, everything is above

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Thank you! And without cutting off the side of the oil seal, you can not stick it in? And then what did they put without a side?
For information, who will also change the oil seal, I found just such a grease, it is even with a food grade approval: Food grade silicone grease for the seals of bread makers Huskey HVS-100 Silicone
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For information, who will also change the oil seal, I found just such a grease, it is even with a food grade approval: Food grade silicone grease for the seals of bread makers Huskey HVS-100 Silicone

I recommend this lubricant. I don’t know whether it will withstand 299 degrees or not, but there were no smudges anywhere. I have been using it since last year. I bought a tube of 85 grams, because it is more profitable than 3 grams. The grease is universal and can be used in many places, for example, in plumbing, locks ...
With the replacement of the oil seal, I am personally confused by the presence of a steel ring inside the aluminum mandrel. More precisely, its purpose.

With the replacement of the oil seal, I am personally confused by the presence of a steel ring inside the aluminum mandrel. More precisely, its purpose

I did not understand which ring you are talking about, while I removed the oil seal, which is in a metal casing, as it were, its inner edge is seamed, are you talking about this?
And in terms of lubrication, I found it theoretically, it is on the existential site, a tube costs about 700 rubles, but it is rarely needed!
I now doubt that it's time for me to change the oil seal, I took it off, yes, all the grease dried up in it and spilled out in pieces, wiped the stem and the bushing from the remnants of semi-dry grease, examined the oil seal, it is not yet hardened and soft, (well, the ring some black, as I read somewhere, apparently to protect the oil seal from the temperature directly, hard) so while I buy lubricant, fill the oil seal and for now, I will not chicken the piece of iron! Someone has a video on YouTube, so a person's oil seal is hardened and crumbled, I don't have that yet!

can't you stick it in?

Alas, it will not work. I changed it to the LG 8 * 22 * ​​7 oil seal, put it as it is without a side, everything keeps on without it

With the replacement of the oil seal, I am personally confused by the presence of a steel ring inside the aluminum mandrel. More precisely, its purpose.

This is part of the oil seal, or rather its metal reinforcement, that is, this metal part was inside the original oil seal. On the gland there was also a sealing ring-shaped spring, unfortunately it cannot be attached to the LG gland, the gland design is different
PS Still, the photo shows

And in terms of lubrication, I found it theoretically, it is on the existential site, a tube costs about 700 rubles, but it is rarely needed!

Nothing, I do not impose on anyone. Use any suitable lubricant, because now you can find almost any suitable ...

This is part of the oil seal, or rather its metal reinforcement, that is, this metal part was inside the original oil seal.

With the annular spring, everything is clear, it is used in many of this type of oil seal. But the steel ring is installed inside the aluminum mandrel: for the rigidity of the mandrel? in order to fold its edge more evenly? or for something else?

But the steel ring is installed inside the aluminum frame.

This is the gland reinforcement for rigidity.

Please tell me where is the topic of replacing a capacitor at Panasonic. Several years ago, my husband changed her and she worked successfully after that. But it seems the time has come again, but I cannot find ... I would be very grateful

[barbariscka]

barbariscka, in this section, the topic below about stove breakdowns
Problems and breakdowns of Panasonic bread makers # 2327

[Vasilisa]

VasilisaFirst, check the bucket to see if the spatula turns easily by hand. Check by pulling the bucket out of HP

This is the gland reinforcement for rigidity.

How did you manage to remove this steel ring? Rolling the mandrel did not interfere?

[oil seal 8x19x8 does not fit]

I confirm that there is an error in the repair topic, the 8x19x8 oil seal does not fit, the installation is hindered by the remnants of the Panasonic oil seal in the form of metal fittings and a piece of silicone from the oil seal, it is practically impossible to insert the oil seal from Kenwood, it simply breaks. I changed it to an oil seal LG 8 * 22 * ​​7,

So, I decided not to change the oil seal for now, but just buy Huskey HVS-100 Silicone grease and now more often disassemble and lubricate the old, but soft oil seal. But, for the future, I looked at your photos and did not understand how, you write that oil seal 8x19x8 does not fit due to the fact that he is hindered by the remains of the old, and why were they not removed? Next, from Kenwood is impossible to insert - what size is it? And lastly, they delivered from LG 8 * 22 * ​​7 ... But its size is larger than the size 8x19x8, which did not suit you? In short, I got confused in your story. Could it have been simple to write that to remove the old oil seal completely, to the bare walls of the mandrel and insert an oil seal from LG ...?

[Vladimir-K]

Rolling the mandrel did not interfere?

Interfered, for this he grinded the collar



Vladimir-K, Everything is seen step by step in the photo

Vladimir-K, You can see everything step by step in the photo

Everything is visible and understandable step by step when I did it myself, but how can I understand from the photo everything I wrote about - about 3 types of oil seal? No offense, I think that this can be useful to many ...

[Vladimir-K]

Vladimir-K, Grind off the collar of the mandrel, remove the old oil seal completely, to the bare walls of the aluminum mandrel and insert the oil seal from LG 8 * 22 * ​​7 grease with HP-300 grease from Dov Corning (China). From Kenwood 8 * 19 * 8 the oil seal does not fit! 🔗

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, good afternoon, please tell me this oil seal will fit the bucket from Panasonic sd-2501?

[Galina 64]

Galina 64, the oil seal must be from LG 8 * 22 * ​​7, without a special tool to install it is problematic

I report, I ordered this grease on existential: Huskey HVS-100 Silicone, came in a few days for 660 rubles, disassembled the bucket again (after the first disassembly, temporarily greased it with grease from the oil seal of the washing machine and assembled it to bake ...) cleaned the oil seal, filled its grease, (as I wrote above, it was soft, I forgot only to tighten the spring, well, after 1-2 years I will disassemble it again, look at the grease and tighten it! I also disassembled and lubricated the drive rod in the stove itself, there the shaft was almost dry. I don’t know , there may be a different type of grease, the residues on the washers were black, but I greased it with the same! Now I wondered how long this plastic drive that spins the blade in a bucket will last, maybe it’s not too late to order it and let it be?

I also disassembled and lubricated the drive rod in the oven itself, where the shaft was already almost dry. I don't know, there may be a different type of grease, the residues on the washers were black, but I greased it with the same! Now I wondered how long this plastic drive that turns the spatula in a bucket will last, maybe it’s not too late to order it and let it be?

The bucket drive base can be purchased assembled and it will be more profitable than putting a new shaft into the worn bushing of this unit.When I was doing CP prophylaxis a month ago, I noticed more wear on both the sleeve and the shaft. And all this due to the constant tensioned belt ...

Now I wondered how long this plastic drive that turns the spatula in a bucket will last, maybe it’s not too late to order it and let it be?

Do not worry, maybe it will last 10 years, if you are lucky