I choose a harvester, blender, processor

No one answered me in the Kenwood thread
I copy my post here. But there are actually a lot more questions about this technique. I myself have rummaged through a bunch of everything and I can not decide in any way what is more necessary and important to me, I start as always with the cheapest one, and there I can get close to the expensive \ although I should not do this \. Many will say that all these are toys .. aha, I can cut everything with a knife and knead with a spoon, in general, there is also an old GeDeeR mixer for 100 watts and a Philips juicer is gathering dust in the closet for the second decade .. I want a manual meat grinder. put one beautiful thing on the table, and so that you knead, cut, grate, davil juice, chop / mix the meat.
I would like to especially hear the advice of the Israil women, since if you dissuade me from this Kenwood toy, you can buy me a smaller and cheaper toy from a local company, it has a good review and the power of its processors is large. But I would also like a pan with a mixer and a dough mixer and a meat / vegetable cutter .. graters are not so important, but they are shoved into all models. The blender can handle exactly up to 1 liter, we all have different tastes, it is better to knead each one separately a hundred grams. Well, this Kenwood seems to be the most optimal, but I haven't found a single review on the Internet, how he really kneads and cuts, I don't know. I searched for a video - also did not find it. For the price, I really like it, that for little money there are so many things \ of course there is a lot that is not needed, although who knows, until you buy it is difficult to say what I don’t need \. Oh, excuse me for writing a lot, there is no one to even consult with about this bandura.

Girls, I re-read the whole topic, but you're all about 010 and 020, it's certainly cool .. but don't you know anything good about such KM190?
We sell it inexpensively, the power is actually 650 watts, so I doubt whether it can grind meat well?
on the Internet there is nothing about him at all, no reviews, on the manufacturer's website he does not exist at all .. old chtoli model


everything in the photo is included
Stainless steel bowl 3 liters, blender 1 liter, grinder 1.7 liters like

Complete set

Thank you for reading

And this is a local spare part, also an economical option, but not satisfying all the wishes. Then there is a good review for the little one, they write that it grinds very powerful well.

Gypsy, I can only say that the 4.6L bowls in my Kenwood KM 010 are not enough for me for the test, so 3L-see for yourself.

himichka, thank you, I also thought about it .. but there is nothing to compare with. I am still annoyed that I haven't found a single photo in the internet so that the mixers for this Kenwood are visible, maybe they are made of plastic at all and they are not shown so as not to frighten the people?

On the other hand, I have never read that if it is necessary to knead a little, then it either whips badly or spreads on the walls, because I thought that 3 liters might be optimal, and the capacity for cutting 1.7 liters also seems to be as little or a lot.

I have KM 20. Bowl 6.7 l, but beat one egg with "Hurray". At first, it also did not stick well, but there is an opportunity to tighten the screw and lower the stirrers a little lower (which I did), and now everything is fine. He kneads the steep dough on the dumplings so that it starts to bounce over the table! In my opinion, the bread maker does not knead so quickly and efficiently. There is also a glass cup (blender), threshing is also great! I put whole fruits and vegetables in cocktails, quail eggs with shells - they grind everything. There are no additional attachments yet, but I want to buy. I am very glad that all the parts are made of good metal, especially the bucket! It can be washed even with cold water and there is no fear of breaking it (this is very important in my family). I wish you a good choice !!!

I have KM 20.Bowl 6.7 l, but beat one egg with "Hurray". At first, it also did not stick well, but there is an opportunity to tighten the screw and lower the stirrers a little lower (which I did), and now everything is fine. He kneads the steep dough on the dumplings so that it starts to jump over the table! In my opinion, the bread maker does not knead so quickly and efficiently. There is also a glass beaker (blender), threshing is also great! I put whole fruits and vegetables in cocktails, quail eggs with shells - they grind everything. There are no additional attachments yet, but I want to buy. I am very glad that all the parts are made of good metal, especially the bucket! It can be washed even with cold water and there is no fear of breaking it (this is very important in my family). I wish you a good choice !!!

I have the same car. Please tell me. how did you tighten the screw? Is it such a big key that comes with the kit?

[Gypsy]

Gypsy, I also chose the combine for a long time and persistently. I wrote a whole analysis (for myself). Then she voiced the pros and cons of the models to her husband. So that he from the outside (uninterested) appreciated.
Philips (one of the last), for example, did not suit me with the fact that there you can choose an option for work (for example, a blender). And he then chooses the speed for himself, etc. And what if it's like in a bread machine, wants to intervene in the process?
Bosch 4756 disappointed with its low power. Although, they say, it is enough. But that didn't suit me.
I also didn't like the fact that the named models were made of plastic. However, Bosch looks quite reliable. But I have a fad about the appearance of the technique.
Actually, I stopped at Kenwood KM10. Of the minuses: the price and the need to buy attachments separately (I've been hopelessly looking for one for a month, I've already tried to order from Germany, but it's expensive). From the pros: power and appearance (it seemed to me that this is a Mercedes among combines when I saw it for the first time). But, Mercedes is also not for everybody ...
I'm happy so far. I approach him in awe.
By the way, pay attention, the video of the new Bosch's capabilities is very similar to the Kenwood video. This is true.
Good luck!
PS I want Bosch anyway. To give parents something. And go play ?? This is how I bought a bread maker "as a gift". I decided to conduct a test. In general, the gift was presented to another.

Nastasya! I, too, have not yet purchased all the attachments. but I like that you can buy one at a time, it does not reflect on the budget so much (assuming that one nozzle costs like a combine harvester from another company) and the fact that I complete what I want PERSONALLY. But not about that. Since you and I are fellow countrymen (and we live nearby, I am from Rzhevka), then maybe I have already seen somewhere or know what you need and will prompt. Write WHAT you need.

[zvezda]

zvezda, Thank you so much. Suddenly it's true .... Attachment AT998A 002 (with 6 graters). They are not even in Moscow ...

Nastenka !!!In the Eldorado store it is !!! In particular, on Kosygin 22 and in 3 more stores. Costs 2899. Look in the net on the Eldorado website. Enjoy the shopping. By the way, I even found a potato peeler with them. I have had it for a long time ... I bought it at Mega on Dybenko (by the way, you can also call) they just saw a new attachment. Write the results.

[Gypsy]

Gypsy, I also chose the combine for a long time and persistently. I wrote a whole analysis (for myself). Then she voiced the pros and cons of the models to her husband. So that he from the outside (uninterested) appreciated.
Philips (one of the last), for example, did not suit me with the fact that there you can choose an option for work (for example, a blender). And he then chooses the speed for himself, etc. And what if it's like in a bread machine, wants to intervene in the process?

Phillips has the opportunity to intervene!

I have a Philips Essence HR 7768.

It is possible to increase or decrease the speed in three steps by pressing the "+" or "_" buttons. And there is the possibility of a pulse mode (it works while you hold the button).

In Philips, I just don't really like kneading dough, but with the purchase of HP, the question disappeared. Well, there is no dicing (though until yesterday I had no idea about this minus, until Anastasia enlightened me like many others)!

[zvezda]

zvezda, Thank you. But ... this nozzle is just 998. There are 3 discs in the kit: a disc for small cutting-shredding, for large, for very large.Kenwood AT 998 002 has 6 disks! Shredder, slicing, grater, chopper.


Luysia, true? But something did not suit me there. Although the harvester was in the lead in its characteristics. And young lady Anastasia, she is so ... She stirred up the forum.

I shake it up as if I'm still in great flux, I want to embrace the immense .. Bosch with cubes has already pushed forward all the desires
Well, how do I understand about 190 kenwood nobody knows anything? sorry .. i thought that maybe someone heard something good or bad.

Nastenka I have this set-top box with all 6 disks. Which disc are you interested in? Call Media Markt. I was there that week and in my opinion they were, but at least the sellers will tell you (ask to contact this department) specifically. And they also work to order. Share. what attachments do you have?

[zvezda]

zvezda, great! Where did you buy this attachment? Thanks for the tip to the medmarket. I'll try to call. 100% lies somewhere and is waiting for me ... And I have a food processor attachment. Now I climbed to see what kind of graters (on the Internet) and found the following information: Optional accessories 3 stainless steel discs (shredding, shredding, dicing... I opened the instructions, nothing was said about the cubes. What nonsense! Already 1 online store, on my tip, corrected the description of the goods (with these graters unfortunate). And at the bottom they said: "Well, you buy it and you should know what is included ... and we sell." phew ....

[zvezda]

zvezda ! I twisted it with them, there you must first unscrew something, lower the nozzle and tighten it again. And try to see if the bottom is scratching! I had to do several series until I found the optimal height. I twirled all the stirrers.

[Kalmykov,]

Kalmykov,thanks for the tip, tomorrow I'll try to strain my hubby .... let him twist, I just need to beat one egg.
Nastasya... I buy everything in Media Markt, now I'm waiting for a wipe and an ice cream maker to order, as well as attachments for different moss. They have the largest selection. I have (this I am a little bragging about):
harvester (referenced)
high speed slicer
for rolling dough
for spaghetti
whole apple juicer
-------------------------- citrus
meat grinder
grain mill
4small choppers
Libra
chocolate maker
blender
that's all in my opinion.

[zvezda]

I also have a high-speed slicer with 6 discs, although I tried only one, I cut an onion with it for a marinade for a kebab. Very fast and smooth. The only bad thing is that a lot of onions remain inside the "nose" of the slicer. I bought it in St. Petersburg in Eldorado in the spring (in April)
And more recently I bought a tagliotele attachment, but I haven't tried it yet
I like to wipe the cottage cheese through a sieve, gently and quickly

zvezda , and you roll the dough on dumplings on what figure?

I make almost all the dough at 7, I really like making Philo's dough and puff, very fast and convenient. Do you have a rub? I'm waiting for her, it rarely happens for my typewriter. And I really want an ice cream maker.

There is a rub, I called it a "sieve" !! But there is no ice cream maker. Probably because the kids are gone, and I myself don't like ice cream. My husband loves, but as my mother-in-law says, "What a wife doesn't love, my husband will never try!"
And in my rolling, even 5 is too thin for dumplings (probably depends on the dough), I do not roll further 4.5

[zvezda]

zvezda, wow. These are the stores! Fine. And yet, I am glad that I am not the only one who thinks it necessary to buy a high-speed slicer for the combine (link to the cat). That is, one does not touch the other? Do I get it right?? I also looked at the ice cream maker, but then I decided that in the presence of a stationary ice cream maker, this is a completely useless acquisition! By the way, they were available (attachments) in Technosila.
Aunt Besya , do you still need a dough rolling attachment for the tagliotele attachment ?? And then I have some (I just bought it at a discount), but there is no main attachment yet. And it's interesting to indulge in your own pasta. Although, I suspect that this is a long process.

[zvezda]

zvezda, wow. These are the stores! Fine.And also, I am glad that I am not the only one who thinks it necessary to buy a high-speed slicer for the combine (link to the cat). That is, one does not touch the other? Do I get it right?? I also looked at the ice cream maker, but then I decided that in the presence of a stationary ice cream maker, this was a completely useless acquisition! By the way, they were available (attachments) in Technosila.
Aunt Besya , do you still need a dough rolling attachment for the tagliotele attachment ?? And then I have some (I just bought it at a discount), but the main nozzle is not there yet. And it's interesting to indulge in your own pasta. Although, I suspect that this is a long process.

Nastasya. just arrived from Technosila, bought there at a discount for 1000r. drum nozzle and there is also a discounted nozzle for rolling the dough, it is generally very necessary and not only for macaros. but also for dumplings, pies and everything that is made from dough.

[zvezda]

zvezda, is this in what Technosila ?? And then wherever I call, nowhere. I'm kind of unlucky. And the drum attachment is for grinding chocolate ??? Was there an ice cream maker ??

[zvezda]

zvezda, is this in what Technosila ?? And then wherever I call, nowhere. I'm kind of unlucky. A drum attachment is for grinding chocolate ??? Was there an ice cream maker ??

In Technosila on the Revolution Highway, but the drum is no longer there, but there is a nozzle for the dough, and there is also an ice cream maker for Chef (I have a Major), in general it costs a penny.

Girls and me for advice. Well, I have no strength, I want a combine harvester. I will not cut and plan on it - 100%. The function of kneading dough is important, any: bread, dumplings, biscuits. And whipping, dreaming of a planetary mixer. I chose Bosch MUM 8400. Power and price were decisive factors, I can't afford it more expensive. Approve my choice or dissuade me from buying, dear colleagues.

I definitely approve of the choice !!! Because she herself rushed between this model and Kenwood, I read a lot about her, the reviews are very good. And Kenwood bought it because the design deceived and the money was, but if it hadn't been - and would not show off

[Freken Bock]

Girls and me for advice. Well, I have no strength, I want a combine harvester. I will not cut and plan on it - 100%. The function of kneading dough is important, any: bread, dumplings, biscuits. And whipping, dreaming of a planetary mixer. I chose Bosch MUM 8400. Power and price were the determining factors, I can't afford it more expensive. Approve my choice or dissuade me from buying, dear colleagues.

Freken Bock, but why do you refuse to cut and plan on a combine?

[Freken Bock]

Freken Bock, but why do you refuse to cut and plan on a combine?

Luysia, I have all sorts of berner-neisers heaps. In addition, I do not rig anything in such quantities that the combine was needed. And most importantly, maybe I just don't know what I'm giving up.

Aunt Besya, my confidence in the necessity of this particular model grows stronger.

Since I also pick up a combine for myself, I stopped at BOSCH MUM6N21. I also don't need to cut and plan, just knead any dough and beat the creams. For the price I recognized somewhere around 3500 rubles, it has just planetary kneading and at the same time there is a scraper in the nozzle, which collects the dough from the walls and moves it to the main nozzle. I saw it somewhere on the Vorum, but I can't find it. And I found it on rambler in search.

[Luysia]

Luysia, I have all sorts of berner-neisers heaps. In addition, I do not rig anything in such quantities that the combine was needed. And most importantly, maybe I just don't know what I'm giving up.

Aunt Besya, my confidence in the need for this particular model grows stronger.

It looks so solid, the dough will probably do well on it.
But his price is also solid.
But shredders, as I understand it, are not present at all? And I use shredders, it's convenient for me.
Although Nyser also bought it (I like to make potatoes on it in cubes and cubes from all different from pre-cut plates).

I have a Philips Essence HR 7768, but for the test it is not very good. Not at all!

[zvezda]

zvezda, from the nozzle for rolling out the dough, they only have a box. I was already interested.And they really dropped the prices. We need to look. Why did you go to this store ?? If it `s not a secret?? Just because of the availability of the product ??

Freken Bock , in the same way tossed between these models. Until I saw Bosch in the store. The price is close to that of Kenwood. But outwardly, they are very different. I did not like it categorically! I propose to look at it in reality.

[zvezda]

zvezda, from the nozzle for rolling out the dough, they only have a box. I was already interested. And they really dropped the prices. We need to look. Why did you go to this store ?? If it `s not a secret?? Just because of the availability of the product ??

We went to Metrika, so I looked in at the same time and he is the closest to me (I live at Narodny) and no, it says that the presence is only there.

[zvezda]

zvezda, so I think maybe next to where you live. Okay, I'll drop by. Alas. what is written on the site with reality does not coincide sometimes. They have the right attachment with 6 graters in stock !! But in reality, no .... They are poorly monitoring information. Here is our site - an example to follow !!!!!!!!!!!

[zvezda]

zvezda, so I think maybe next to where you live. Okay, I'll drop by. Alas. what is written on the site with reality does not coincide sometimes. They have the right attachment with 6 graters in stock !! But in reality, no .... They are poorly monitoring information. Here is our site - an example to follow !!!!!!!!!!!

The box was indeed empty, but the seller said to look at the warehouse. Why don't you want to go to Mega? They have EXACTLY a good selection there and the sellers are literate.

The box was indeed empty, but the seller said to look at the warehouse. Why don't you want to go to Mega? They have EXACTLY a good selection there and the sellers are literate.

And the seller told me that they had stolen it. Imagine the picture, considering that the thing is heavy. Is Megu a media market? I really want ... but for now I'll try to call.

[nut]

Since I also pick up a combine for myself, I stopped at BOSCH MUM6N21. I don't need to cut and plan either, just knead any dough and beat the creams. For the price I recognized somewhere around 3,500 rubles, it has just planetary kneading and at the same time there is a scraper in the nozzle, which collects the dough from the walls and moves it to the main nozzle. I saw it somewhere on the Vorum, but I can't find it. And I found it on rambler in search.

nut, I have this harvester since spring. I described it in detail here in this Temko https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0 .

I want to note that he only kneads great amounts of dough wonderfully - kneading from 700 g of flour + ingredients. all that is less - reels on a hook and carries on a bowl all the time you have to help him. there is no scraper to pick up the dough from the walls. there is just a plastic spatula in the package with the combine, apparently, it is meant?

if you are kneading a lot of dough, this is the perfect choice.

And the seller told me that they had stolen it. Imagine the picture, considering that the thing is heavy. Is Megu a media market? I really want ... but for now I'll try to call.

Yes, it's convenient for you (are you on Okhta?) You get to Dybenko and there, in 5 minutes, a free bus. Here is the phone number 448-21-00, there is a VERY large selection of attachments

[Nastasya]

Nastasya, you opened my eyes to the prices! The husband said: Kenwood in the METRO is about 5000 hryvnia, glanced at the site fluently - 400 dollars. Expensive. And I looked after Bosch in the region of $ 300. After your message, I considered the Kenwoods in more detail - 350, even 320 dollars. Thoughtful here. And why is Kenwood, besides design, better than Bosch? (I'm talking about Kenwood chef km 010 07 and Bosch MUM-8400). I will make a reservation that the opportunity to purchase various attachments is not particularly interesting to me.

[Nastasya]

Nastasya, you opened my eyes to the prices! My husband said: Kenwood in the METRO is about 5000 hryvnia, glanced at the site fluently - 400 dollars. Expensive. And I looked after Bosch in the region of $ 300. After your message, I examined the Kenwoods in more detail - 350, even 320 dollars. Thoughtful here. And why is Kenwood, besides design, better than Bosch? (I'm talking about Kenwood chef km 010 07 and Bosch MUM-8400). I will make a reservation that the opportunity to purchase various attachments does not really interest me.

If you do not mind, I will answer, when changing both of these combines, there is but Kevud, this is a professional technique and for example, when kneading dough near it, you do not need to stand next to it, the bowl does not vibrate. But keep in mind that you will have to buy attachments, but what is good is that you will buy what exactly interests you.For the price it is certainly more expensive, but the quality .... Kenwood is several orders of magnitude higher.

I would like to note that the Bosch combine model, which is mentioned (Bosch MUM 8400), was originally equipped in the same way as the Kenwood 010. Everything else must also be purchased. The price is about the same (well, I mentioned it). When I saw the model on the Internet, I was very interested. I decided it was perfect. I saw it live ... It's hard to say, this is a purely subjective feeling ... In the characteristics it is written Execution: bowl: stainless steel. steel, case: st. steel. It looks ... like badly colored plastic. It looks decent in the photo. Not in life. Kenwood looks more dignified.
I can only judge about the appearance. I have no experience with Bosch. Yes, and a little with Kenwood. But I am very happy. Is it such a pleasant little thing as a sieve? You put the nozzle ... ppraz, the flour is sifted. The beauty!

By "worthy" I mean, more reliable.

[zvezda]

One more point (concerns nozzles). Bosch is easier to find. And they are much cheaper. This is just in case.

zvezdaand they don't! They said it was in the order. But it is not known when the supplier will have it !!!!
Girls, where you accidentally see and remember ... please poke your nose at me !!

Yes, and a little with Kenwood. But I am very happy. Is it such a pleasant little thing as a sieve? You put the nozzle ... ppraz, the flour is sifted. The beauty!

By "worthy" I mean, more reliable.

Bosch has a bowl shaking when kneading the dough, it must be held. And I have NO sieve ... I'm waiting ...

Girls, another question. What is the minimum amount of product that can be whipped and kneaded in Kenwood? Bowl, wow! It seems that you persuaded me to Kenwood.

If we talk about proteins, at least three was whipped

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, and the dough on dumplings is cooler than a bread maker will knead? The question is ripe due to the fact that bread dumplings dough is soft for a dough sheeter.

Tan, don't mind, take Kenwood. The machine is a beast. I have, when the dough is thick, like kneading dumplings, and strives to jump off the table. And swing at 020 right away, otherwise our kids (mine so for sure) say that the test does not fit in it enough. Go to the record. Last Sunday, the Chuchelkins' pies were eaten in 4 hours, barely managed to hide them in the morning. And the dough was a full bowl with top, about 2 kg.
The dough on dumplings kneads perfectly well, I did not try to knead in the oven, I like it tighter.

Oh, Len, me and the 10th are not quite for the money. The anniversary is just around the corner. I wish it was 40 years old. And I force events, because my husband is now in Kiev, it will be easier with the choice and delivery.

[Freken Bock]

Freken Bock ! We have Kenwood 20 costs about 3600 UAH. I even beat 1 egg on it (I previously wrote that it is necessary to tighten the stirrers with the wrench that is attached, then they catch small quantities well). It has already been said about large volumes: great! I am very pleased ! I want almost all attachments!

[Freken Bock]

Freken Bock, I'm not ashamed to ask, why is the choice between this particular Bosch model and Kenwood?

[Nastasya]

Nastasya, the choice is based on the power of the machines. I choose for kneading different types of dough and whipping. Bosch just love. Kenwood is praised by everyone.