LinaL
Quote: Lefon

I poured 4.5 liters (The mule is cold, today they haven't cooked anything in it yet). Water from a 5-stage filter, "on the finger" is about the same temperature as from the tap (we constantly take water, so there is always "fresh" water in the tank). I set "High pressure", set 10 minutes (although it does not matter).
So far 5 minutes have passed.
Mulinex CE4000 cartoon? Did you pour water before MAX risks? Why did you get 4.5 liters?
ZIMA, do you have time? Did you exhibit it?
Elena Bo
Brand 6051 and Brand 6050
Tap water to the maximum mark.
Brand 6051 power 1000, Soup (40 pressure by default) closed the valve after 28 min. + 4 minutes of direct pressure build-up, after which the countdown began.
Brand 6050 power 900, Soup (pressure?) Closed the valve after 30 min. + 4 minutes of direct pressure build-up, after which the countdown began.
Elena Bo
Cooking time doesn't matter. We need time for which the pressure cooker will start cooking.
Lefon
Quote: LinaL

Mulinex CE4000 cartoon? Did you pour water before MAX risks? Why did you get 4.5 liters?

...
To be honest, I haven't looked at the level. A year ago, I measured it, for some reason it was deposited in my memory that the Max risks are about 4.8 liters. This time, he simply poured all the water that was in the tank into a 5 liter jug ​​(a jug with marks of half a liter - that is, the risks are 0.5-1-1.5-2-, 25, etc. ), it turned out to be almost 4.5 liters, so I poured the whole jug into the pan. I confess, I did not look at the mark (I always follow when cooking, and then something flew out of my head.
LinaL
Quote: Elena Bo

Brand 6051 and Brand 6050
Tap water to the maximum mark.
and you can find out how much in liters? So, for reference.

p.s. Thank you so much!
Zima
Results of my experiment.
Water - 4 l, T-14C, high pressure program 3 minutes
Start - 16-43
The pressure gained 15-16
The countdown has begun - 16-22

Total - 39 minutes
Quote: LinaL

are the specifications not described in the manual? What pressure and temperature are declared for these modes?

instruction lying somewhere, lies tidied away and securely! There was a heated debate in the topic on Moulinex and there was a request for technical support, the answer was:

This multicooker has 2 pressure levels for different foods (0.40 bar - for delicate foods and soft vegetables; 0.70 bar - for hard foods and hard vegetables)
Temperature for automatic cooking programs "Low pressure", "High pressure", "Roasting" - 180 degrees, "Roasting vegetables" - 140 degrees, "Stewing" - 85 degrees. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=166885.0

But! On extinguishing, I rose to 95 C - personally measured
LinaL
Quote: Lefon

To be honest, I haven't looked at the level. A year ago, I measured it, for some reason it was deposited in my memory that the Max risks are about 4.8 liters. This time, he simply poured all the water that was in the tank into a 5 liter jug ​​(a jug with marks of half a liter - that is, the risks are 0.5-1-1.5-2-, 25, etc. ), it turned out to be almost 4.5 liters, so I poured the whole jug into the pan. I confess, I did not look at the mark (I always follow when cooking, and then something flew out of my head.
boom to look at the time.
Elena Bo
Quote: LinaL

and you can find out how much in liters? So, for reference.

p.s. Thank you so much!
Both the one and the other pressure cooker with a 5-liter bowl. Liter water 4.
LinaL
Quote: Elena Bo

Both the one and the other pressure cooker with a 5-liter bowl. Liter water 4.
and it's up to the risks !?
The 6-liter Moulinex CE4000 also contains 4 liters of risks. So much for different volumes of cartoons.
LinaL
Preliminary results:

Moulinex CE4000 - 4 liters of water - 39 minutes

Brand 6051 - 4 liters of water - 32 minutes

Brand 6050 - 4 liters of water - 34 minutes.

p.s. waiting for Lefon.
Thank you all for your participation.
Elena Bo
Yes ..... No one here has ever dealt with such nonsense.
LinaL
Quote: Elena Bo

Yes.....Nobody here has ever dealt with such nonsense.
so the question immediately disappeared.
Yes, and for me a discovery: that 5 is 6 liters, and the MAX volume is the same. And it turns out that the space to the lid is larger and it takes longer to fill it with steam. Oh how!
Luysia
Quote: Elena Bo

Yes ..... No one here has ever dealt with such nonsense.

This is not nonsense, they hit conjectures with an indisputable argument!
Zima
the difference of 5-10 minutes may be an error associated with the different T of the filled liquid ... it seems to me that the volume of the pan has nothing to do with it. If such a difference were immediately declared, I would not even begin to conduct such an experiment. But initially there was a question: how one pressure cooker can gain pressure for 10-15 minutes, and another 30-40 (subject to the same load)! By the way, I didn’t measure the full volume of my bowl, if it gets cold I’ll go and measure it.
LinaL
Quote: Zima

the difference of 5-10 minutes may be an error associated with the different T of the filled liquid ... it seems to me that the volume of the pan has nothing to do with it. If such a difference were immediately declared, I would not even begin to conduct such an experiment. But initially there was a question: how one pressure cooker can gain pressure for 10-15 minutes, and another 30-40 (subject to the same load)! By the way, I didn’t measure the full volume of my bowl, if it gets cold I’ll go and measure it.
What's true is true. It's not a 30 minute difference.
And the meaning is the full volume of the bowl when useful (recommended) is known.
Although for a complete lace does not hurt.
Elena Bo
Lefon is missing. What is it for?
Zima
Quote: LinaL

so the question immediately disappeared.
Yes, and for me a discovery: that 5 is 6 liters, and the MAX volume is the same. And it turns out that the space to the lid is larger and it takes longer to fill it with steam. Oh how!

I measured everything again, everything is correct in the Moulinex bowl of 6 liters, you can pour it, the last ml are already trying to run over the edge. Up to the MAX mark a little less than 4 liters.
Lefon
I apologize for the long silence, the internet was turned off at home. I apologize for the mistakes I am writing from a smartphone.
So - the time from pressing the button to the start of the countdown, that is, before the start of the program, was 23.5 minutes.
LinaL
Quote: Lefon

I apologize for the long silence, the internet was turned off at home. I apologize for the mistakes I am writing from a smartphone.
So - the time from pressing the button to the start of the countdown, that is, before the start of the program, was 23.5 minutes.
Even your 4.5 liters warmed less! Actually, take care of your cartoon. Your copy is exclusive. Or maybe you read something like that in the instructions that others have not thought about ..... Share your advice, plz.
Lefon
I also asked my sister to do the same test with her new Mule (7011). promised tonight or tomorrow morning.
Lefon
Quote: LinaL

Even your 4.5 liters warmed less! Actually, take care of your cartoon. Your copy is exclusive. Or maybe you read something like that in the instructions that others have not thought about ..... Share your advice, plz.
yes, I did not read anything.
poured water, pushed the button and that's it.
except that when he let out steam, he burned his finger, nothing else interesting happened
Stafa
Quote: LinaL

Preliminary results:

Moulinex CE4000 - 4 liters of water - 39 minutes

Brand 6051 - 4 liters of water - 32 minutes

Brand 6050 - 4 liters of water - 34 minutes.
And that's where those pressure cookers are faster than cartoons. They mentioned everything about speed - until they measured it with a stopwatch. In induction, the same current gains and releases pressure for 20 minutes each - so the argument about speed somehow disappears in this context. Is there a current taste left? And more power - and more consumption.
Luysia
Quote: Lefon


except that when he let out steam, he burned his finger, nothing else interesting happened

And Brand 6051 has a special button and fingers are not scalded!
Lerele
Quote: Stafa

And that's where those pressure cookers are faster than cartoons. They mentioned everything about speed - until they measured it with a stopwatch. In induction, the same current gains and releases pressure for 20 minutes each - so the argument about speed somehow disappears in this context. Is there a current taste left? And more power - and more consumption.
I want to say that it is faster.
Now I have prescribed a saucepan, set it at 5.04, at 5.23 a signal. A kilo of potatoes and half a liter of water.
You can't cook so quickly in a multicooker or on the stove.
Stafa
Quote: Lerele

I want to say that it is faster.
Now I have prescribed a saucepan, set it at 5.04, at 5.23 a signal. A kilo of potatoes and half a liter of water.
You can't cook so quickly in a multicooker or on a stove.
Well, there was no debate about potato here, there was a conversation about soup. And on this occasion, in AF for 15 minutes, Lena, the catwoman, baked almost 1 kg of potatoes. But we're talking about something else, right?
Lefon
Quote: Luysia

And Brand 6051 has a special button and fingers are not scalded!
that's for sure. 4000 have quite a few drawbacks. also the bottom of the bowl was scratched quickly
Elena Bo
Quote: Stafa

And that's where those pressure cookers are faster than cartoons. They mentioned everything about speed - until they measured it with a stopwatch. In induction, the same current gains and relieves pressure for 20 minutes - so the argument about speed somehow disappears in this context. Is there a current taste left? And more power - and more consumption.
What's on the stove, what's in the multicooker, what's in the pressure cooker, the water must first boil. But as it boiled, then the speed began. And the soup is not an indicator, it is not because of the soup that we use the pressure cookers. And we don't always cook in such volumes.
Song
Quote: Elena Bo

it's not because of the soup that we use the pressure cookers.
It's like saying ... I, for example, like to make a quick soup in a pressure cooker.
Lefon
Here's a bummer. my sister didn’t have time to test the 7011 mule — her son threw it off the table this afternoon. well at least it was empty, it was not crippled.
Does anyone have this model to do the same test?
Lefon
asked to carry out the same test in the mule 7011 branch. can anyone ask the same question in the cuckoo and ourson branches?
YanOchka-
Denis BR Explain if possible, in 6050 the pressure is 90 kPa and the power is 800, and in 6051 the pressure is 70 kPa, and the power, on the contrary, is higher than 1000, while the maximum temperature for frying with this power is only 150 degrees. What is the reason for this spread? And why did they reduce the pressure? And the last thing: the pressure set at 6051 in the default modes corresponds to the pressure in the same modes in 6050?
Robin bobin
Well, you give. Such troubles over time. If someone is in a hurry, is it difficult to warm water? In my SV (Daewoo 3570) I often pour hot water not even in order to shorten the time, but in order not to create a temperature difference in the saucepan after frying. I just pressed the button in the kettle, took it off without even bringing it to a boil - that's all.
MariV
Quote: Luysia

To the rain ...
Yes! We finally had a shower yesterday!
I was led to your games - I poured ice water - I simply don't have another in my village - up to max. marks, set "Steam" by default - hissed after 19 minutes, the valve closed after 20 minutes. Specially sat with a timer! Here
Olekma
I don’t understand what is the essence of the test? write and I will check with mulinnex and oursson at the same time For the sake of keeping up the conversation
Olekma
Although this cannot be done in Oursson, there the countdown begins immediately, regardless of whether the pressure in the multicooker has accumulated or not.
Lefon
Quote: Olekma

I don’t understand what is the essence of the test? write and I will check with mulinnex and oursson at the same time For the sake of keeping up the conversation
Determine the time until the final pressure build-up - pour 4 liters of water, start the Soup program (well, or some other one where the maximum pressure is used), press START and note the time from pressing the button until the end of the pressure build-up and the start of the program itself.
Lerele
Quote: Olekma

I don’t understand what is the essence of the test? write and I will check with mulinnex and oursson at the same time For the sake of keeping up the conversation
It's Lefon who chooses a pressure cooker

... I just want to say - do not go !!! Well, or = Don't buy.
In the old days of great emigration, the most popular question on German Russian-language forums was whether to go or not. Forum topics sprang up like mushrooms and grew to gigantic proportions. And somehow it so happened that those who often asked seemed to be looking for arguments not to go, looking for the negative, the disputes were sometimes very heated. Since then, the exclamation - Do not go !! It is used just in such cases. And already not about emigration, but as a common name.

MariV
Quote: Lefon

Determine the time until the final pressure build-up - pour 4 liters of water, start the Soup program (well, or some other one where the maximum pressure is used), press START and note the time from pressing the button until the end of the pressure build-up and the start of the program itself.
Duc answered you - 20 minutes from pressing the button to the start of the program.
Lefon
Quote: MariV

Duc answered you - 20 minutes from pressing the button to the start of the program.
What cartoon?
Elena Bo
Quote: Lefon

Determine the time until the final pressure build-up - pour 4 liters of water, start the Soup program (well, or some other where the maximum pressure is used)
In the Brand on the Soup, the pressure is 40 out of 70 possible.
Lefon
Quote: Elena Bo

In the Brand on the Soup, the pressure is 40 out of 70 possible.
Well then, another program where maximum pressure is used.
MariV
Quote: Lefon

What cartoon?
multicooker-pressure cooker brand 6051.
Lefon
Quote: MariV

multicooker-pressure cooker brand 6051.
Then here are also strange results - 2 people have about 32 minutes, you have only 20. Although, as I understand it, this program does not use maximum pressure.
Elena Bo
Quote: Lefon

Well then, another program where maximum pressure is used.
So I did it on the Soup mode, as it was agreed. Then it was necessary to talk about the maximum pressure. In short, as I said, we are doing nonsense.
MariV
Quote: Lefon

Then here are also strange results - 2 people have about 32 minutes, you have only 20. Although, as I understand it, this program does not use maximum pressure.
In this steam program, the pressure can be changed from a minimum of 1 kPa to a maximum of 70 kPA. I set it by default - 20 kPa.
Lefon
Quote: Elena Bo

So I did it on the Soup mode, as it was agreed. Then it was necessary to talk about the maximum pressure. In short, as I said, we are doing nonsense.
Well, I didn't know that the 605x soup programs do not use maximum pressure! CE4000 does not have such a program - there is simply "High pressure" (which I set during testing) and "Low pressure".
And why all of a sudden "nonsense"? It is interesting to find out this parameter (that's why they are "pressure cookers").
Lefon
Quote: MariV

In this steam program, the pressure can be changed from a minimum of 1 kPa to a maximum of 70 kPA. I set it by default - 20 kPa.
Got it. Try, if not very difficult, to set the maximum pressure and test again!
Elena Bo
Quote: Lefon

CE4000 does not have such a program - there is simply "High pressure" (which I set during testing) and "Low pressure".
Well, it turns out that you do not know anything about your pressure cooker, and we are being exiled here. After all, I wrote at the very beginning that the higher the pressure, the longer the pressure build-up.
MariV
I have this pressure cooker - 3rd. It differs very favorably from Lakuchinka and 6050 in that both time and pressure can be changed in it. But this is for the very advanced.
Lefon
Quote: Elena Bo

Well, it turns out that you do not know anything about your pressure cooker, and we are being exiled here.
No words ... why such an amazing conclusion ??? I wrote about this right away (that CE4000 has only 2 programs - high and low pressure)! And I conducted the test on the "High Pressure" program, setting 10 minutes (although this is not important). Maybe it’s you “you don’t know anything about your pressure cooker, but we’re going to waste here”?
Quote: Elena Bo

After all, I wrote at the very beginning that the higher the pressure, the longer the pressure build-up.
Hedgehog, that's why I wrote about it right away.

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