Vadim Solynin
Multicooker-pressure cooker Brand 6051

Features of the model:
• 5 liter bowl with non-stick ceramic coating (environmentally friendly, reliable, durable and completely safe for health).

• 1000 W heating element with a special ceramic non-stick coating (avoids contamination and discoloration of the heating element during operation).

• Special design of the holder for the lid (during operation there are no questions “where to put the lid?” The lid can be easily folded back. At the same time, for cleaning, the lid is quickly and easily removed from the holder).

• New design of the pressure stabilizer button (a special button is used to release the pressure, remote from the pressure valve, which makes this process absolutely safe from steam).

• Completely safe 5-step work protection system.

• Saving the program with power surges up to 20 seconds.

• Ability to cook at both high and normal pressure (now you decide for yourself, choosing one or another mode).

• Adjusting the working pressure level (You will not be limited to normal or high pressure only. The ability to adjust different pressure levels is now available, and the information display will inform you about the current state of pressure).

• 3-stage manual mode (the ability to set the time and temperature at any of the 3 stages makes the flight of your culinary fantasies limitless).

• Keeping food warm up to 24 hours, as well as the ability to turn off this function if it is not needed (many people know that there are times when the finished product should not be kept heated after cooking. We have provided this, and you can easily turn off the heating if not needed).

• The function of delaying cooking up to 24 hours (the multicooker-pressure cooker will start its work at the moment of the day when it is convenient for you).

• A wide range of programs:
- Rice
-Crupa
-Milk porridge (not escaping)
-Steaming
- Yogurt
-Soup
-Meat
-Extinguishing
-Bakery products
-Children food
-Frying (150 ° C)
- Warming up
-Handheld (3-stage)

Each program has the ability to set the cooking time and pressure level.

• Accessories: stirring paddle, soup spoon, steamer stand, measuring cup, recipe book.
Aygul
This is especially pleasing:

Quote: Vadim Solynin

We are glad to present a new model, produced at the proven SUPOR plant, with consistently high quality. A model that combines all the achievements and long-term developments of the Brand company - Multicooker-pressure cooker Brand 6051.

we stand for proven quality! we are for new models and new ideas! we are for optimism! You are great!

Quote: Vadim Solynin

• Special design of the holder for the lid (during operation there are no questions “where to put the lid?” The lid can be easily folded back. At the same time, for cleaning, the lid is quickly and easily removed from the holder).

• New design of the pressure stabilizer button (a special button is used to release the pressure, remote from the pressure valve, which makes this process absolutely safe from steam).

• Completely safe 5-step work protection system.

this is what was missing for me in 6050 for complete safe use (in comparison with some other speed-mi) - reclining (the kitchen is small, the working space is limited, everything must have its place) and removable (yeah, you need to wash it , we are preparing EVERYTHING) cover, SAFE pressure release (if you feel like it right now). An important point!

Quote: Vadim Solynin


• Ability to cook at both high and normal pressure (now you decide for yourself, choosing one or another mode).

• Adjusting the working pressure level (You will not be limited to normal or high pressure only. The ability to adjust different pressure levels is now available, and the information display will inform you about the current state of pressure).

• 3-stage manual mode (the ability to set the time and temperature at any of the 3 stages makes the flight of your culinary fantasies limitless).

really, limitless expansion of possibilities!

Quote: Vadim Solynin


• Keeping food warm for up to 24 hours, as well as the ability to turn off this function if it is not needed (many know that there are times when the finished product should not be kept on heating after cooking. We have provided this, and you can easily turn off the heating if not needed).

very important function! I don’t use it at all ... I have to get up, turn it off ... and then CHIK and then do not need to be undermined

Quote: Vadim Solynin


• The function of delaying cooking up to 24 hours (the multicooker-pressure cooker will start its work at the moment of the day when it is convenient for you).

very convenient function for those who value fresh food, just cooked

Quote: Vadim Solynin


• A wide range of programs:
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Each program has the ability to set the cooking time and pressure level.

So many programs that the eyes run up, the stomach prepares, and the brain turns on
A lot is interesting: how does Rice differ from Groats? this is such a question from the first lines. For the rest, I think we'll figure it out
Interesting mode Baby food. What is meant?
In frying mode, does the temperature change according to the pressure level? Is there pressure there at all (maybe this is a purely multicooker mode)?
There are 3 steps possible in Manual mode, it's awesome! this is clear. Setting the time and temperature, right? How will the report go: when the required temperature is set (that is, there will be additional warm-up time)? Or will it be the total time, within which the temperature will be set or reset to the desired one, and then the desired programmed temperature will be maintained? That is, how much time was set initially, through this and approach, evaluate the finished dish.

Well, not on specific modes, but closely related questions:
How many pressure levels?
Are there any reporting times for the modes? And within the 1st mode at different pressure levels? Or is it necessary to experimentally select everything on the basis of ... (and then various variations)?

a lot of interesting and unexplored, so testing is mandatory in order to reveal all the possibilities of this beauty!

Sorry, at night emotions are poorly expressed with emoticons, sleep hoTsTSa, if they give, tomorrow I will express emotions

Vasilica
Quote: Nevushka

I'm wondering what the Baby Food program is, and what temperature limits are in manual mode.

Yes, I'm also wondering what kind of baby food is.

But about the temperature, girls, look what this scale is 20,30,40,50,60,70. Maybe it's the temperature setting. It seems not suitable for setting the time. What do you think?

Quote: Manna

Yes, I also thought about it ... But the temperature range is greater ... up to 150 ° С
Quote: Nevushka

Vasilika well 70 how the upper limit looks unconvincing .. maybe this is a scale of pressure gain?

Well, why the upper limit starts from 70 and up to 140 it seems (if I'm not mistaken).

But these are my guesses, thoughts out loud

Quote: alenka_volga

70 - maximum.
Quote: alenka_volga

these are kilopascals, those pressure. IMHO

Ah, now I see. In general, why guess, let's wait for the representatives, they will tell everything themselves
Denis BR
Quote: vernisag

And this model does not have a container for collecting condensate?
Good day! Of course there is a container. It is located at the back of the pressure cooker and the lid on the bracket folds out to the right. From the presentation photo, the condensate collection is simply not visible!
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Quote: Denis BR

and the cover on the bracket swings to the right
Quote: Manna

Oh
Quote: Catwoman

But I really like the hinged lids!
Quote: Aygul

Me too! Especially with the possibility of being removed for washing.
Quote: Manna

I just don't know if it will be convenient to use a saucepan like that.
As far as I know, Panasonic's lid also opens to the right. How, interestingly, this affects the operation
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

I was not bothered in Panas by opening the lid to the right. I put it in such a way that the open lid was at the back, teak like in 37501.
Quote: Elena Bo

It is convenient for me to open the lid to the right. This is how it opens in Panasonic. You can, if you wish, turn slightly, and the lid will open back. And the fact that it is also completely removed for washing, then this is generally.
Quote: Arka

Girls, it is convenient to flip the lid with any hand, this is not manual cutting.
The only question is the location of the multi itself on the working surface. For me personally, the right option is very suitable, since the place for multi is just on the right from the edge. And the raised lid does not restrict access to anything.
The very possibility of choice is important here. The cover can be folded back and locked, or the cover can be removed. It's super !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The cover can be removed during cleaning or washing. Swinging it to the right, you unscrew the latch located in the center inside the cover and remove. During cooking, you naturally cannot do this.
Quote: Catwoman

It looks like the lid in my Ourson 4002 pressure cooker, I love this kind of fastening, the inner plate will never fall into the soup.
Tanyulya
Quote: Denis BR

The cover can be removed during cleaning or washing. Swinging it to the right, you unscrew the latch located in the center inside the cover and remove. During cooking, you naturally cannot do this.
Removing the inner lid plate? Right.
Is the valve attached to this plate?
Vadim Solynin
Good evening

Thanks to ALL huge for the kind words and support. We will try harder

Elena will give all the details on the modes as soon as she leaves the vacation

We expect this model to arrive in Moscow in June-July this year.

It is difficult to name the delivery in black.

Quote: Vasilika

Yes, beautiful !!! Very interesting modes!

A cup like 502? And when will it go on sale?

The bowl is ceramic, as in Brand 502. The shape of the bowl is different.

Quote: Nevushka

Beauty! And the programs are excellent! You can feel my 6050 after the release of the novelty will go to live with my mother ...

Vadim, and something is not planned in red?

So far, Nevushka, there are no plans. Is red color relevant?

Quote: Vasilika

... what is this scale 20,30,40,50,60,70. Maybe it's the temperature setting. It seems not suitable for setting the time. What do you think?
Quote: alenka_volga

these are kilopascals, those pressure. IMHO

Quite right. This is a pressure level indicator. Exceeding atmospheric pressure.

Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Not, Linen, we are not picky! We're just discussing! We keep, that is, the topic in the upper positions.

Thank you. Appreciated

Quote: Arka

I am very impressed with the Brand client-centric approach!
Well, who else has debugged the feedback and takes into account the rational suggestions, comments and requests of users?
We are happy people! Especially my fellow countrymen, who are so unspoiled by the service that they have given up a long time ago. Anyone who has ever come across a business or service in Belarusian will understand me.
And then there is such a "breath of air" in the form of Brand! ..
And for you testing, and finalizing models, and solving specific problems of real people, and ...
Sorry for the "deflection" - I fell through, it hurt

Thank you, Arka for the kind words . Sometimes they are so lacking ... There is much more negative

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Of course we will test!
For a bread maker. ru is allocated 5 copies. And as usual, candidates will be agreed with the administration of the forum, but this, as they say, is closer to body business
ElenaNSK
Lovely girls and ladies! Thanks to your wonderful forum, I became an ardent fan of Brand, for which many THANKS to all of you!

Actually, I wanted to say about a small portion of porridge in a large pressure cooker. Today I studied a temka with technical data on the 6050 pressure cooker, which should come to me soon. So, in that Temka there is a video about a pressure cooker, which I watched out of interest - there a girl makes a small portion of porridge in a ceramic pot, which, I think, can be put on a double boiler (she kind of puts it like that, adds water to the container and turns on the same the very mode of porridge, as for a large volume. Nothing is smeared over a large saucepan. I really liked the idea, because you also do not always need a lot of porridge. Somehow I will try this method in my 502nd cartoon, and until the pressure cookers wait ...

And then there's a new pressure cooker on the way ... Eh ...
But all the same, I don’t regret that I ordered 6050 - Brand will no longer have equipment with Daikin coating, right? And I want to try such a cup too. I already have a multicooker with a ceramic bowl, I love it dearly and have already made all my relatives and friends happy with such a device

And the firm is very good. Honestly, I have never met such an indifferent, I would say even - quivering - attitude towards users anywhere else.

Vadim and Elena, we love you very much!
ysbor
Girls, I'm not very much in the subject yet, help me figure it out. What is the difference between this new MB = pressure cooker and the 6050, apart from the bowl and the program list? I wanted a new 502, now I think 6051 can wait. Do not persuade me to buy both, I still have 37502 (I’m not talking about Panas :-))
Quote: Vadim Solynin

• Ability to cook at both high and normal pressure (now you decide for yourself, choosing one or another mode).

• Adjusting the working pressure level (You will not be limited to normal or high pressure only. The ability to adjust different pressure levels is now available, and the information display will inform you about the current state of pressure).

• 3-stage manual mode (the ability to set the time and temperature at any of the 3 stages makes the flight of your culinary fantasies limitless).
Quote: Denis BR

Hello! The 6051 has an important function to turn off automatic heating as well as adjust the working pressure level.
Quote: Vichka

Turning off heating, is it if, after the end of the program, the multicooker does not go into heating mode, and you cannot set the desired heating time?
Quote: Denis BR

Hello! The 6051 has an important function to turn off automatic heating as well as adjust the working pressure level.

Thank Denis! That is, you can cook porridge, soup, pilaf, stew meat and vegetables in it, either in high pressure mode or in the normal multicooker mode?
Quote: Denis BR

The warm-up time cannot be programmed. This function is only available in the 6060 Smoker.
Quote: Denis BR

Unless the soup without pressure is not recommended. There may be a strong boil and the countdown will not start.
Irinia
This question is for the new model: will the cooking time in automatic modes be clean (without pressure set and release)? Or general like Orson?
Gibus
Competitors are awake!

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=158832.0

But they do not have a programmable mode and different pressure levels.

Quote: mumi

The bowl is not ceramic, and on the reliability of the modes, the reviews on Polaris are contradictory.
At first I wanted to save money on MB, but I did not find anything equal to the brand in terms of price, functions and unambiguous feedback about their reliable work. So for a thoughtful buyer, these are not competitors.

And when I was looking for an iron, I was stopped by Polaris reviews, it flows, then the sole material is not very good. And the prices have already been promoted. The design and features are impressive though.
Quote: vernisag

The girls in this thread only discuss multicooker - pressure cooker Brand 6051.
I apologize if I posted here about the new Polaris to the wrong address
It's just that there are not so many 2 in 1 multi-cookers-pressure cookers on the market yet. And Brand 6051 for me is the main candidate for a future purchase, so I compared it with it ...
For the price, they will most likely be similar, but the 6051 has more possibilities! Especially programmable mode
I would buy 502 for him, but what to do with 37502. And here you have everything: with pressure, and without pressure, and fry, and set your own cooking algorithm!

Hard ceramic coating, although more sticky, seems safer to me. It does not "frizzy" over time, as Teflon and its particles do not get into food.
Manna
The brand is announcing this pressure cooker on its website. The price is 6990 rubles. Expected 06.25.2013

Multicooker-pressure cooker Brand 6051 Multicooker-pressure cooker Brand 6051
alenka_volga
explain to me why there are different pressure levels?
Quote: Vichka

I may be wrong, but it will not be like in an airfryer, three fan speeds that do not have much difference from each other. I switch between second and third speed, but in principle, you can do without them.
Quote: Manna

And I really need three fan speeds in the airfryer. There is a difference in them, eeeess !!!

As for the different pressure levels, the temperature will be different, and the cooking speed will also be different. What do we have there quickly boil down at high pressure in a matter of minutes? Now it won't.
Quote: Denis BR

Good day! The pressure level affects the temperature maintained in the pressure cooker. Accordingly, the higher the pressure, the higher the temperature. Jellied meat, meat, legumes - of course, it is better to cook at a maximum pressure of 70 kPa, so that they cook quickly. Well, fish fillets, for example, have a low pressure, because the cooking time of fish itself is much shorter than that of the same jellied meat.
Quote: Tanyulya

Girls, having cooking experience in Oursson, I say for sure: pressure regulation is better and more convenient. So here Brand is great, keeping up with the needs.
In color, yeah ... the metal looks more solid and weighty.
Vei
But now I'm all worried about whether she has a memory in case of a power outage or power outages.
Quote: valushka-s

a very useful function, and I would like the Brandovtsy not to forget about it!
Yes, she is a beauty, only if the price would not rise much, but would not depend on the drops in electricity! Everyone, we are waiting ... I don’t want to doubt anything anymore, she will be the best!
Quote: Denis BR

Good day! The pressure cooker has a volatile memory for 20 seconds... When reconnecting to another outlet, or a second drop in the mains voltage, this time will be enough that the current program does not go astray.
Quote: Narkom

UPS to help you, as they say.
Levitan
Quote: Vadim Solynin

• Special design of the holder for the lid (during operation there are no questions "where to put the lid?"

• Ability to cook at both high and normal pressure (now you decide for yourself, choosing one or another mode).

That is, there is no sensor in the lid? The mode without pressure is not automatic, but simply according to the manual principle (otherwise, multi-cook), the temperature is set as in the multi-cook mode of the same name.

Quote: vernisag

And apparently there is no heating element in the lid either , and this is a sea of ​​condensation flowing down to baked goods and everything else ...
Not necessarily so. I bake in the Orson 5005 pressure cooker, which also has a completely removable lid. There is no pouring condensation, it all remains on the inside of the lid. The droplets seem to stick to the metal, and turn into water that can be poured (drained from the lid) when the lid cools down.

But the new announced feature seems to be not new. I am also in Orson in manual mode, you can set the temperature around 100 degrees and you get the same thing.

I choose between this model and the novelty from Polaris. There is a sensor in the lid, there is even a Plov sensor program. But for the price, the brand has always had other advantages as well.

It looks like this model can compete with Orson, but not Polaris. And I already have Orson.
Quote: Manna

What is the sea of ​​condensate? Recently, I only bake biscuits in pressure cookers (6050 and 6060). There is no sea of ​​condensation. Absolutely not. Even at 6060.
Quote: Nevushka

Apparently people out of habit compare with multicooker and still do not understand the difference.
Quote: vernisag

Pressure cookers always have a lot of condensation on the lid. I haven't baked in pressure cookers lately, maybe not on biscuit dough ...
Quote: Manna

I stopped baking biscuits in a slow cooker because of a puddle on the baking surface under the valve. In pressure cookers, the surface is completely dry and even (!)
Quote: Nevushka

I don't have any baked goods, except that I don't bake yeast in SV.
Quote: vernisag

I don't remember anymore ... Chet baked with berries, it seemed, I got out a wet one, since then I probably haven't baked since last winter ...
Quote: Manna

Ir, maybe you will try again ... well, to know for sure ... Well, there is no condensation in the pressure cookers Can you just didn't bake it that time, and you hurried?
Quote: Denis BR

Good day! There are also cases when on a bright box it says: "3-D oborgev" in big letters, but in the multicooker or pressure cooker it is not.
Quote: Denis BR

Good day! Condensation usually builds up when you cook something with liquid. Most likely it will not be in the "Pastry" at all.
Quote: Aygul

I also don't bake in a multicooker at all, only in a pressure cooker, nothing drips anywhere (on baking), we bake with an open valve, all condensate (if any, I didn't pay attention) flows into the drip tray
Quote: * Tanya *

I also tried to bake a chocolate brownie in a pressure cooker, like a recipe book, delicious cake! I have done it three times already, no condensation and it is just done in case of a quick arrival of guests.
Quote: Elena Bo

To prevent condensation from getting into the bowl on the Baking, you must remove the lid immediately after the end of the program (then there will be no condensation) and do not tilt it over the bowl. I enjoy baking in a pressure cooker. Nothing ever pours, however, in multicooker, condensation never drips onto the baked goods, if you do not forget to take it out in time.
Yes, good competition Oursson MP5005PSD... The brand will be even better in some parameters. Especially when you consider the difference in price.
Good day. No ZD at all in any multicooker - the usual advertising stunt.
On the Internet (and in this thread too), this model of pressure cooker was compared with a novelty from Polaris as competitors. In my opinion, these are different devices, as I wrote above, this model looks more like an Orson. And the novelty of Polaris is completely different and there is no need to compare them.
Quote: Denis BR

Hello! 3-D heating in a multicooker (do not mix with multicooker pressure cookers) implies a heating element in the lid. Some manufacturers really only write about it on the boxes. No 3-D in pressure cooker 6051, but it is in the multicooker 502 and 37502, 37501.
Good day. The word "heating" can be applied to the top tena with a big stretch, the heating temperature is not hotter than fresh milk. The upper ten is not at all for heating the food being prepared - you know this as well as I do. Naturally, there is an upper ten in multicooker 502 and 37502, 37501, but what about without it?
In pressure cookers with a removable lid, there cannot be an upper shade, if only simply because there is no wire connecting the lid to the unit itself. Multicooker and pressure cooker are completely different appliances. I am generally against adding the word multicooker to the word pressure cooker.
I agree about "some" manufacturers. There are those hack-workers who can manually change the temperature in each mode (even on yogurt you can set 160 degrees), in fact, an ordinary electric stove in a multi case, only different names are glued to the buttons. And cartoon is in demand, by the way. I feel sorry for the deceived buyers.
Luysia
Information from the site

We already know all this, but let's repeat:

Pressure multicooker Brand 6051 !!! expected on June 25, 2013, Price: 6990 rubles.

Multicooker-pressure cooker Brand 6051

Bowl volume
5 l.

Product management
Digital

Display
LCD display

Bowl cover
Non-stick ceramic bowl coating

Cooking options
Possibility of cooking at high and normal pressure

Manual mode
3-step manual mode with the ability to adjust the cooking time from 1 minute to 2 hours and the temperature from 25 ° C to 130 ° C at each stage

Heating
Heating food up to 24 hours (can be switched off before cooking)

Postponement
Delay cooking up to 24 hours

Heating element
Heating element ceramic coating

Cooking modes
14 cooking programs:

- Rice
- Cereals
- Milk porridge
- Steam
- Frying
- Heating
- Warming up
- Quenching
- Meat
- Soup
- Baking (the ability to bake bread),
- Manual
- Children food
- Yogurt

Pressure regulation
Adjustment of pressure levels from 1 to 70 kPa

Pressure relief
Safe pressure relief device

Temperature control sensor
there is

High pressure lid locking device
there is

Overheating automatic shutdown sensor
there is

Excessive internal pressure relief device
there is

Innovative steam valve
there is

Accessories
Measuring cup, spatula, soup spoon, steamer stand, condensate container

Power
1000 Watt

Accessories (included)
Measuring cup, spatula, soup spoon, steamer stand, condensate container

Pressure levels
70 pressure levels

Temperature modes
66 temperature settings

Free recipes
there is

Aygul
How will the steam escape from the new pressure cooker? Will there be some kind of safety device for this process?

In my SV there is a "pocket" on the lid that you can open, pour cold water into it, it, passing along the groove around the SV lid (inside), cools the SV and pours out into the drip tray. This is me about Unit.
Quote: Manna

Aygul, I remember saying something about the fact that the steam release mechanism will be located separately from the steam outlet valve. But I don't remember exactly something
Quote: Vadim Solynin

• New design of the pressure stabilizer button (a special button is used to release the pressure, remote from the pressure valve, which makes this process absolutely safe from steam).
Quote: Tanyulya

Maybe like Oursson?
Manna, I remember that too.

Vika, the question is where the steam will go. "Safe from steam" is for the user, but for a kitchen apron? Will there be a jet of steam? Or is it somehow miraculously transformed inside, and we just pressed the button, and then opened it, and no splashes (neither on us, nor into the surrounding space)? Did you understand it?

Tanyulya, what about Oursson? I have not studied their pressure stabilization system ...
Quote: Vichka

It seems to me anyway, the steam should go outside, otherwise it will definitely not be a saucepan, but a real spaceship, based on how much we have dreamed of.
Ukka
Since I have already dealt with the 6050 pressure cooker, I can also express my opinion ...
Already 6050 pleased me pleasantly (though I bought a stainless steel bowl and an elastic band for it), and 6051 is already pleasantly pleased with the announcement!
Quote: Vadim Solynin

• 5 liter bowl with non-stick ceramic coating (environmentally friendly, reliable, durable and completely safe for health).
The ceramic coating pleases, but the stainless steel spare wheel would not interfere ...

Quote: Vadim Solynin

• Special design of the holder for the lid (during operation there are no questions "where to put the lid?"
I was glad, because sometimes it is difficult to put a hot lid somewhere ...

Quote: Vadim Solynin

• New design of the pressure stabilizer button (a special button is used to release the pressure, remote from the pressure valve, which makes this process absolutely safe from steam).
Yes, yes, that's very good !!! At least I'm not afraid of a couple of valves, but such an innovation will allow my coward daughter to use the pressure cooker!

Quote: Vadim Solynin

• Ability to cook at both high and normal pressure (now you decide for yourself, choosing one or another mode).
Another positive point!

Quote: Vadim Solynin

• Adjusting the working pressure level (You will not be limited to normal or high pressure only. The ability to adjust different pressure levels is now available, and the information display will inform you about the current state of pressure).
• 3-stage manual mode (the ability to set the time and temperature at any of the 3 stages makes the flight of your culinary fantasies limitless).
It certainly pleases, but wouldn't it be too confusing for a beginner?

I was also pleased with the greater number of programs. And what temperature will be on "Yoghurt"? And what does the "Baby food" regime mean?

Let's just say that my dotsya wants a pressure cooker for her dowry, and since she's a beginner in spaceships in pressure cookers, then 6051 will come in handy for her !!! Are looking forward to!!!
Gibus
Quote: Luysia

Manual mode
3-step manual mode with the ability to adjust the cooking time from 1 minute to 2 hours and the temperature from 25 ° C to 130 ° C at each stage

Up to 130C, so you can not hope for normal frying? It turns out that all products of the Supor plant have a maximum temperature limit of 130C?
Quote: Denis BR

Good day! : hi: Excuse me, but where did you see that the "Fry" in the 6051 pressure cooker is 130C? In fact, all 150C! SUPOR is not a limited capacity factory. This is a technologically advanced plant with great potential!
Manna
Denis, just in the characteristics on Brand. rf it is indicated that the manual mode is in the range from 25 ° С to 130 ° С, and the fact that the temperature of 150 ° С is not indicated for frying. Although Vadim in the first presentation it was pointed out:
Quote: Vadim Solynin

-Frying (150 ° C)
grazhdanka
Good day to all! Tell me, I'm looking at a photo of a new pressure cooker, multicooker, there is no fry-meat, fry-vegetables, etc.? Or am I just looking in the wrong place? I have not yet had experience with multicooker, I’m just making up my mind, but it’s important for me that she cooks quickly, tasty and healthy ... I have a pressure cooker on the stove, and I bake bread in KhP, now I’m looking at the multicooker, I’m thinking take 6050 or wait when a new one comes out in June ??
YanOchka-
Quote: grazhdanka

I saw that there was frying, I asked about different frying modes
Yes, yes, by the way, a very handy thing. On Frying Vegetables everything is sauteed without a golden crust, until soft and not burning, and on Frying Meat, everything "grabs" very quickly. You can choose what kind of onion you need: transparent for soup or fried for dumplings.
I didn't have to use the rest of the frying modes yet.
Really Brand abandoned such a variety, simplifying the usual FRYING? He's not one of those who are looking for easy ways? It would be more difficult for him and more EVERYTHING. Our clever girl !!!
Robin bobin
I'm thinking ...

Quote
• 1000 W heating element with a special ceramic non-stick coating (avoids contamination and discoloration of the heating element during operation).

Is it good? From my own experience I was convinced that the ceramic coating is very moody. Sensitive to shocks, chips. Now, if the bowl is rubbed against the heating element during operation, will it come to the heating element? The cup can still be replaced, but what about him? Brand representatives, how is this point thought out?

Quote: Denis BR

Good day! Not all multi-cookers have a heating element protected by a ceramic coating. This protection relieves the consumer of the odor of NG. Burnt crumbs and food pieces are easier to peel off. If you rotate the installed bowl on NG, the coating may be scratched, but this will not affect the operation of NG.
Quote: Manna

And on its scent? After all, if initially the odorous NG is clogged with a coating, then when this coating peels off ...
Quote: Vei

Girls don't compose! The ceramic coating of the heating element is VERY COOL !!!
I have this in 502, Bork and 1010, and I really miss it in other models!
Quote: Manna

Wei, I was just surprised by Denis's explanation about the smell. Although ... I, of course, are somewhat confused by the idea of ​​covering NG. Yet this heating element, and the coating will be heated "dry"
Quote: Denis BR

Dear Manna, we used to have heating elements just with non-stick protection, and (first smell) the grease burned out longer. We now have a ceramic shield that relieves users of this problem. That's what I meant.
Quote: Manna

Yes, Denis, now I understand you
Quote: Denis BR

No, don't be afraid, there won't be any smells!
grazhdanka
Quote: Denis BR

No, don't be afraid, there won't be any smells!
Denis, I would very much like to hear the answer to my question from you about choosing a model
Denis BR
Naturally, the 6051 model will be more advanced in all respects than the 6050. It's up to you - if it is of fundamental importance for you to prepare Yoghurt and manually adjust the pressure in all modes, as well as a manual 3-stage mode, then you better wait! If these aspects do not play a key role, then 6050 is fine. They both cook great.
Denis BR
Quote: grazhdanka

but on the manual one you need to know how much and what to set, I mean the temperature and the time ... there probably everything is provided? and everything is written in a book with instructions?
This mode will allow you to program up to three stages with different temperatures and cooking times. You can use any recipe, both the simplest and the most complex. Now it is possible to implement cooking with gradual heating, or rapid heating and subsequent gradual decrease in temperature. The possibilities of the Manual mode do not limit your imagination in the preparation of various dishes.
You can set the cooking temperature at each stage from 25 ° C to 130 ° C in 5 degree increments. Possibility to set cooking time from 0 to 24 hours.
Narkom
and if you add an Internet connection, then it will also order products itself (there are such refrigerators)
grazhdanka
Quote: Miriel


grazhdanka, I, too, before buying a multi thought why people have so many devices ... And now myself ... I want a bread maker, it is more convenient to make bread there, put yogurt in a cartoon overnight, and porridge for the morning with a delay, where to put it? That means more cartoon is needed. The same thing at lunchtime: put soup in one - 1, 5 hours, and when to cook the second? After? Then you will wait for lunch until dinner.But in general, to each his own, someone generally swears at multi, says that everything is better and tastier on the stove
That is why I want to buy a multicooker-pressure cooker so that my soup cooks for 20 minutes, maximum 40, after which I would put dinner and not steamed, but I don’t eat porridge, I don’t eat yoghurt, too .. the child has breakfast in the garden, my husband leaves sooo early without breakfast, so if only on weekends there is porridge, but it's not a problem to make it there once a week ... I would buy a multicooker-pressure cooker and buy a bowl for her, although here too ... well I will cook I'm in a multi dish, you can transfer it to another container and continue to cook what you need.

Quote: Levitan

grazhdanka
It is good to buy a pressure cooker in addition to a slow cooker, not instead of it. A multicooker and a pressure cooker are two completely different units and their principle of operation is different, despite the fact that a multicooker-pressure cooker is being written, they are all pressure cookers and without pressure, you can only fry on baked goods. In addition, it is inconvenient for me that in a pressure cooker the lid cannot be opened during the process, and not everything from a pressure cooker is as tasty for me as from a multicooker.

I completely agree that you need several units at the same time. For example, there are several burners on the stove and it happens that everyone is busy (well, or almost everyone). One multicooker is enough for me and one pressure cooker to help her. I use them all the time, they have a permanent residence permit in the kitchen on the working surface of the table. There is also a second large-volume pressure cooker - well, just in case, like a large saucepan, sometimes you need it. It is in the closet and I take it out as needed.
Unfortunately, there was no place for a bread machine either. Also gets out of the closet. But this is because we don't eat much bread, basically I need it for the dough (I love her very much for that - I get a lot of dough at a time).There is also an airfryer in the kitchen - I have made close friends with it and I use it often. Here is a microwave oven where to put away - it is needed only for warming up, but it takes up a lot of space.

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grazhdanka
The principle of cooking in a pressure cooker and an electric pressure cooker is the same, just in the last one from electricity, the degree of protection in it is better and there are many other amenities. To be honest, having a multicooker, I will not give up on an electric pressure cooker (maybe in vain, but I'm afraid of one). If I didn't have an Orson, then 6051 is a very tempting thing. I don't know how in practice, but in theory it will even be better than Orson. If you are interested in my opinion, then buy a multicooker, and later look at the pressure cooker.
grazhdanka
Now I really read that some fast food cooks both with and without pressure, it turns out that two in one are all the same
vernisag
With such functions, it seems to me there are only two more, these are Polaris PPMC 0124D and Cuckoo CMC-HE1055F and I don't know anymore
Levitan
Quote: manna

This is exactly what it will be 6051
In 6051, this cannot be, because, unlike multicooker, it does not have a sensor in the lid that controls the cooking process. And how can he be if the cover is not connected to the body and there is no wiring that transmits commands... In multicooker, the sensor controls the set mode even if the program is not touch-sensitive, but automatic (in which the user sets the time). Try to leave the lid open for a long time in the multicooker on Stew, the multicooker will immediately begin to gain temperature. This indicates that the sensor in the lid has cooled down and instructs the lower shade to warm up more.
The model in question is a pressure cooker. Even if it will be possible to set the temperature in it in the region of 100 degrees, that is, not sufficient for the formation of intense steam due to which pressure is created, then it will be an ordinary multi-cook or otherwise manual mode and cannot be compared with multi-cook modes. By the way, in multicooker, manual mode is also not a program, but an ordinary function on which you can set any temperature according to the principle of a simple electric stove - turned it on at 90 degrees, 90 and heats up, and no algorithm. For example, you cannot compare the Extinguishing mode, where the temperature is around 100 degrees, and the manual mode at 100 degrees. On the manual one, as I have already written, there will be just a given temperature, in the MV on Extinguishing, first there is a strong heat treatment at high temperatures, then T drops to the required one. In pressure cookers, quenching takes place at T 120-130 degrees (this T is needed for the rapid formation of steam) throughout the entire process and the boiling is restrained by pressure.
Quote: grazhdanka

Now I really read that some fast food cooks both with and without pressure, it turns out that two in one are all the same
Everywhere they write a multicooker-pressure cooker, but they are all pressure cookers, the multicooker prefix is ​​a publicity stunt. Now there is one first cartoon in which you can add pressure, but this is not about it, all the other models of pressure cookers on sale. And Orson too. Without pressure, only baking, frying and yoghurt and, perhaps, you can do a couple of cooking tricks without pressure, or a dry product, or as I already wrote in manual mode, but this is not what is needed for a normal process (then first process at a high T , and then transfer to a multi-cook without pressure)
Quote: grazhdanka

How do dishes from multi and pressure cooker differ in taste, and whether they differ at all.
This is individual. I don’t like meat in a pressure cooker - it’s squeezed out, and it’s better to cook borscht in a slow cooker - I don’t like the slogan “threw it and left”, this is not suitable for all dishes, the taste suffers, it’s still better if you can look under the lid and add something. Even in this case, the multicooker is a great helper, because it monitors the process itself and you can leave for a while (at least on the Internet). But broth for borscht is better in a pressure cooker, porridge is better in a slow cooker, I'm doing it for steam soon, maybe also because a lot of vegetables for a salad can be placed in my large container at once. I often put the side dishes in the pressure cooker.

m110 is also a pressure cooker, with nice additions, but a pressure cooker.

Quote: grazhdanka

Well, at least someone thinks about the same as I do in terms of the taste of dishes, I argue with everyone that there will be no tasty dish if you threw everything into a saucepan and left, each dish is prepared in stages, whatever one may say, the same greens, garlic, all this at the end they add to the same borscht and not at the beginning, it will boil down and it will not be tasty .. but if I have a pressure cooker on the stove, then there is no point in buying a multicooker-pressure cooker? right? if this is a publicity stunt in the form of a prefix .. Then you just need to look closely at the multicooker?

Quote: Vitaok

Here I disagree with you. There was such a question on the Branda website about the upper temperature sensor. And a Branda spokesperson replied that the 6051 pressure cooker has been improved to include an upper temperature sensor.
vitaokstep
And how does this sensor transmit commands to the lower one? On a cell phone, or what? The cover is not connected to the body.

Quote: Denis BR

Good day! Excuse me, why did you decide that the lid does not connect to the body, and there is no wiring? Where does this information come from? There are wiring and sensor. The sensor is mounted in a bracket on which the cover itself is fixed, which can be removed by unscrewing the latch.
Quote: Denis BR

I repeat that the upper temperature sensor is mounted in the end of the bracket, in its center, on which the pressure cooker lid is put on and fixed. The sensor itself is connected by wires that run inside the bracket into the pressure cooker body.
Quote: Denis BR

The principle of preparing first courses in a pressure cooker is slightly different from cooking in a multicooker:
Council. Ingredients that do not require a long cooking time are best added after
the main cooking process. That is, you cook everything on the "Soup" mode, and after
signal, turn off the multicooker pressure cooker, normalize the internal pressure,
by setting the pressure regulator to the “pressure relief” position. Open the lid
multi-cooker pressure cookers (the contents are still boiling) and add the ingredients,
not requiring long-term cooking (noodles, stewed beets, etc.). Close
cover, set the pressure regulator to the "high pressure" position and
leave for a few minutes. You can also turn on the Soup mode for 1-2 minutes.
Denis BR
You interested me in a completely new design, fundamentally different from what is already on the market. We'll have to watch the testing and user feedback - it's interesting how such a sensor will behave in practice.
Quote: Denis BR

the upper temperature sensor is mounted in the end of the bracket, in its center, on which the pressure cooker lid is put on and fixed.
That is, it can measure T in the pressure cooker itself? That is, a certain hole in the lid through which the sensor heats up.
Quote: Denis BR

You cook everything in the "Soup" mode, and after the signal disconnect pressure cooker-multicooker, normalize internal pressureby setting the pressure regulator to the “pressure relief” position. Open the lid multicooker pressure cookers (the contents are still boiling) and add ingredients that do not require long cooking (noodles, stewed beets, etc.). Close the lid, set the pressure regulator to the "high pressure" position and leave for a few minutes. You can also turn on the Soup mode for 1-2 minutes.
It's hard to turn off wait until the pressure is released, then turn it on again. It's easier in a multicooker - just open the lid and add what you need, close the lid.

By and large, I think that you should not compare a multicooker and a pressure cooker. They have different functions.
Quote: Denis BR

When the cover is put on the bracket and screwed down, the sensor is on the inside of the cover, as if it were built into the cover.
An interesting engineering solution. In theory, 6051 can work as a cartoon.
Quote: Nevushka

In the pressure cooker, after releasing the pressure, you can open the lid, add everything you need (noodles, spices, etc.), close and leave for 5 minutes.Everything will be ready and the taste will not be affected.
Quote: valushka-s

I do that in my pressure cooker. and does not bother at all! although I will not give up my mules!
all the same, the pressure cooker and the multivac complement each other !!
Quote: * Tanya *

Here, and I do it too. After all, after the pressure drops and you open the lid, the soup is still boiling straight, so feel free to add vermicelli or beets (depending on what you are cooking), close the lid and let it stand. In 5-10 minutes everything will be finished
For the first time, due to inexperience, I threw in beets right away, so my borscht became so ugly in appearance, br ... although it tasted very tasty, like from the oven, but now I always throw in beets when the borsch is ready. And the color is not lost and has time to boil
Elena Br
Quote: Levitan

An interesting engineering solution. In theory, 6051 can work as a cartoon. How much do you say it costs? Can you read the instructions already?
If the device works as a multicooker, then during the operation of the mode, you can open the lid at any time. This is the defining factor for me.
The 6051 multicooker pressure cooker could theoretically work as a multicooker in all modes, but ... the structure of the lid. Rather, there is a pressure indicator in the lid, which, when the contents of the bowl boils, rises and blocks the lid. In this case, the device is hermetically closed and pressure builds up inside the bowl. It will be difficult to open the lid, you must first stabilize the pressure (even a small one).
Levitan
Elena, in principle, that there will be not just pressure-cooking modes on it, but real multi-cooker ones - this is great. That is, you can stew meat or boil porridge like in a multicooker without pressure. You don't need to look under the lid for these dishes. He threw the porridge in general, according to the principle, and left (that is, he poured the milk, filled up the cereal and truncated), and the stewed meat and in a slow cooker, if desired, processing the product before, and not in the process. Well, soup - okay, if the pressure is small, then it will drop quickly and you can report something at the end of cooking.
Interestingly, amusingly, I prove to the representative of the brand that the unit is good.
Robin bobin
Quote: Elena Br

The 6051 multicooker pressure cooker could theoretically work as a multicooker in all modes, but ... the structure of the lid. Rather, there is a pressure indicator in the lid, which, when the contents of the bowl boils, rises and blocks the lid. In this case, the device is hermetically closed and pressure builds up inside the bowl. It will be difficult to open the lid, you must first stabilize the pressure (even a small one).

Elena, wow. Not quite clear.

What about
• Ability to cook at both high and normal pressure (now you decide for yourself, choosing one or another mode).

• Adjusting the working pressure level (You will not be limited to normal or high pressure only. The ability to adjust different pressure levels is now available, and the information display will inform you about the current state of pressure).

That is, in fact, it will not be possible to choose the pressure level? Will it still accumulate due to the design of the lid?
Denis BR
Quote: Robin Bobin

That is, in fact, it will not be possible to choose the pressure level? Will it still accumulate due to the design of the lid?
Good day! After selecting any program that cooks under pressure, you can manually set the pressure level from 1 kPa to 70 kPa by pressing the buttons on the front control panel. At maximum pressure, the boiling point of water will be about 109C, so the cooking time will be significantly reduced. At the minimum pressure, the boiling point of water will be slightly more than 100C, that is, the cooking process will be approximately the same in time as in a multicooker. But even minimal pressure will cause the lid of the pressure cooker to lock for safety. And just to open it in order to throw something extra into the saucepan will not work.

Quote: * Tanya *

Denis, and if the lid is not completely closed, will it not block at low pressure?
Quote: Levitan

I do not know how in this model, but if it really has a sensor in the lid, then a loosely closed lid will lead to incorrect operation of the program. In slow cookers, this leads to disastrous consequences. For example, the lid is not closed enough or is open altogether, that is, the sensor in the lid does not heat up enough with steam (or not so quickly) and on programs such as stewing, soup or porridge, the multicooker starts to heat up too much. It's good if the multicooker has protection and it just goes into heating.
After closing the lid of the pressure cooker, by turning the knob (screwing the lid), you bring it into a working standby state. The pressure cooker will not work without screwing it in, the next protection will work, the pressure cooker will report an error, and no program that needs pressure will start. "Yogurt" and "Baking" can be started with the lid screwed on or unscrewed. And "Frying" works exclusively with the lid not screwed on, if you turn the lid, the pressure cooker will report an error. In 6051, all degrees of protection have been worked out.
Manna
Yeah, it turns out that as a multicooker 6051 works only on the modes "Yogurt", "Baking", "Frying". The rest of the modes work only as pressure cookers with varying degrees of pressure. I understand correctly?

Quote: Vei

Apparently, yes (((and it looks like 6051 in the meaning will be the same Orson 5005, and only Polaris 0124
Quote: Tanyulya

The lid in the pressure cooker will lock in any way, even with minimal pressure. Exit: have two lids, one multicooker, the other pressure cooker.
So ... this ... as I understand it, 6051 will not work without turning the lid:
Quote: Denis BR

The pressure cooker will not work without screwing it in, the next protection will work, the pressure cooker will report an error, and no program that needs pressure will start.

TanyushBut Oursson has the same principles of work, no?
Quote: Tanyulya

Yes, Oursson has almost the same meaning, the lid locks even at minimum pressure. On yoghurt, the lid can be opened safely and for baking. But the programs work even with the lid open, in the video about pilaf I just cooked with the lid open. In Brand it turns out only on Zharka it will be possible to work with the lid open? Or am I dull
Yes, I understood that too (also + Baking and Yogurt, but there is hardly a need to cook in these modes with the lid open)

Quote: Vei

Well, apparently, 6051 is not a hybrid MV / SCR, but an advanced SCR with the ability to program, regulate pressure and temperature (?), But in operating mode, the lid is blocked, and it will not work to open it, as in MV
Yes, yes, and temperatures too, well, firstly, there is a "Manual" mode, and secondly, with increasing pressure, the temperature also rises

As I understand it, this device works under pressure (even if it is 1kPa), which means that it will not work to open the lid, as in a multicooker during operation. This is what distinguishes this device from a multicooker. So I agree with Veechkoy, 6051 is an advanced pressure cooker with add. multicooker modes of yogurt, baking and frying
Robin bobin
Quote: Denis BR

At the minimum pressure, the boiling point of water will be slightly more than 100C, that is, the cooking process will be approximately the same in time as in a multicooker. But even minimal pressure will cause the lid of the pressure cooker to lock for safety. And just to open it in order to throw something extra into the saucepan will not work.

That is, she knows how to work like a pressure cooker, only slowly. I see many are upset by this. And for some reason I do not feel such an urgent need to climb under the cover. If the appliance works perfectly, nothing burns, there is no need to interfere - then every little thing can be thrown in at the end of cooking. I even at the beginning of cooking, along with everything else, threw greens into the soup. Yes, it turns out differently, but not that bad). And if you throw frozen greens, even more so.
And by the way, about Polaris - are you sure it works with the lid open?

Quote: Denis BR

Hello! Model 6051 is an advanced example of a multicooker pressure cooker.She knows how to work as you want - both fast and slower. On the contrary, humans are given an advanced manual pressure control mode. And in my opinion, they are not nearly upset, but on the contrary, they are very happy with the birth of such a smart kitchen unit.
Quote: Denis BR

This model can be called both an advanced CB and a hybrid, because the modes "Fry", "Bake" and "Yogurt" work without pressure. They can be attributed to the classification of multicooker modes.
Denis, thanks, everything is clear. That is, the upper sensor provides multi-cook modes, but they will work like in a pressure cooker, with the lid closed, right? It suits me, I look forward to testing with interest. But for some housewives it is fundamentally important that the lid can be opened, read the topic above.
Manna
By the way, Denis, and the manual mode also works only under pressure, right?

Quote: Aygul

or under pressure at temperatures above 100 degrees? and if it is lower, then the pressure will not build up, the lid will not be blocked and will it be possible to open it at any time?
Quote: Tanyulya

I think yes, only under pressure.

Quote: Denis BR

"Manual" works in different ways. If we program the temperature for frying, then we fry with the lid open at a given temperature, if there is liquid in the bowl, and we are going to program stages under pressure, then the temperature set by us above 100C and up to 130C will be an indicator of the set pressure. That is, if set in "Manual" 130C - the pressure will be 70kPa, 120C - 50kPa, 115 - 40kPa, etc.
A! In general, it is clear that if the temperature is sufficient for the liquid to boil, then there will be pressure cooking
vernisag
In general, it turns out to be just a worthy replacement for the 6050.
Vei
Quote: Robin Bobin

That is, she knows how to work like a pressure cooker, only slowly. I see many are upset by this. And for some reason I do not feel such an urgent need to climb under the cover. If the appliance works perfectly, nothing burns, there is no need to interfere - then every little thing can be thrown in at the end of cooking. I even at the beginning of cooking, along with everything else, threw greens into the soup. Yes, it turns out differently, but not that bad). And if you throw frozen greens, even more so.

If there are several units: both MV and SLE, then this is not such a critical moment, since there are dishes that cannot be cooked correctly in SLE - the same borsch, it is IMPOSSIBLE to cook borscht in one tab, because it turns out just a liquid first the dish may even be red. Everything else is dancing and dancing, which only complicates the cooking, not makes it easier.

So those who (like me or many of us) have many different electric pots can cook complex dishes in a simple MV, where you can open the lid if necessary.
And then use 6051 as a pressure cooker, BUT then another one is needed? ...

And those who, for various reasons, have nothing yet, and want to buy such a unit that can do everything and will combine several devices in themselves, in 6051 they may be disappointed, since it is not a hybrid! Although it will be possible to cook dishes to taste not pressure cookers, but ordinary cartoon ones: potatoes without a baked aftertaste, porridge without ghee, meat not boiled, but simply tender, like in a cartoon.

And by the way, about Polaris - are you sure it works with the lid open?

Polaris has a different lid principle, there, with the pressure turned off, an ordinary cartoon is obtained.

What's the funniest thing is that everyone wants to embrace the immensity, get a super-duper hybrid that combines everything in itself and does not take up additional space in the kitchen, and then they still buy both MB and SLE, and then on the list of all themes-devices from the forum
Gibus
Can I set temperatures below 100C in manual mode? No pressure.
Denis BR
That's all right. Below 100C, the pressure simply will not build up because the water will not boil and evaporate.
Robin bobin
so I understand that you can boil, then lower the temperature to 95 - and open the lid for yourself as much as you want. Denis, or did I get it wrong?
Gibus
Actually, at 90-95C, water evaporates quite well and there may be a slight excess pressure. Will it close the valve?
Tanyulya
For some reason I'm sure that the valve will close at 95
Denis BR
On "Manual" you can set temperatures from 25C to 130C. 25C - 95C is just temperature. And temperatures of 100C, 105C, 110C, 115C, 120C, 125C, 130C - having liquid inside the bowl, will cause increasing pressure!
Vei
But the lid is blocked in any case, regardless of the set pressure? Otherwise the program won't start?
Tanyulya
Quote: Denis BR

On "Manual" you can set temperatures from 25C to 130C. 25C - 95C is just temperature. And temperatures of 100C, 105C, 110C, 115C, 120C, 125C, 130C - having liquid inside the bowl, will cause increasing pressure!
This is understandable, but even with minimal evaporation, steam generation, the valve should work to close. Right.
Denis BR
Quote: Gibus

Actually, at 90-95C, water evaporates quite well and there may be a slight excess pressure. Will it close the valve?
Will NOT close! The valve closes only when exactly 1kPA is reached.
Vei
Quote: Denis BR

After closing the lid of the pressure cooker, by turning the knob (screwing the lid), you bring it into a working standby state. The pressure cooker will not work without screwing it in, the next protection will work, the pressure cooker will report an error, and no program that requires pressure will start.
In other modes (except for the ones listed below), even when the normal pressure is set, must the lid be screwed on to start the program and is it blocked?


"Yogurt" and "Pastry" can be started with the lid screwed on or unscrewed. And "Frying" works exclusively with the lid not screwed on, if you turn the lid, the pressure cooker will report an error. In 6051, all degrees of protection have been worked out.

Vei
Quote: Tanyulya

For some reason I'm sure that the valve will close at 95

This can only be learned from testing ... Although it seems so to me too

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