caprice23
Quote: Ketsal
the bars are curved
Hmm ... Well
Ketsal, Olga, thank you. Everything is very clear




And on knives 9 * 9, also such curved bars come out?
Masha Ivanova
caprice23, Natasha! On the Alligator, all the bars are perfectly straight. At least 6 by 6, at least 9 by 9, at least 12 by 12
They can be curved only if the potato is soft, sluggish, or something, I don't know how to correctly say about such a potato. Or other vegetables are also the same. If the vegetables are good, then all the cubes are firm and absolutely even.
Svetlenki
Quote: Masha Ivanova
On the Alligator, all the bars are perfectly straight

So, I always have straight lines. But I could not object to the photo. Anyway, raw potatoes for frying on an alligator come out even.
caprice23
Elena, Sveta, Thank you so much . That's it, I won't torture anyone else, I went to think.
Ketsal
Masha Ivanova, I also got a bent fresh cucumber. Normal, hard cucumber and boiled carrots are all bent. Apparently the hands are crooked. Maybe I'll make a video one of these days. Maybe something is wrong with the technology! I cut the cucumber in columns of 6-7 cm.A large potato across, put it in a column, pressed, bent pieces turned out, then I put them across and made cubes
Svetlenki
My husband said that I was completely sick when I blew up at 12 at night and started peeling and chopping carrots on an alligator.I will not ask if he is right or not

So an experiment. Lattices were used 6 * 6, 9 * 9, 12 * 12. Fresh carrots, stumps 4.5-5 cm high.

Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

My findings:

1. There is a little bend!
2. Stubs in different places bend differently
3. I didn't notice it before
Igrig
Quote: Svetlenki
There is a little bend!
Sveta,
Do not worry, there should be a bend, the fact is that the top panel does not move in a straight line, but each point along an arc of a circle. That is, the panel is moving around axis (where it is fixed)! Look from the side!
So the arcs are obtained from the products.
This is if you do not take into account the internal stresses in products ...
And the higher the piece to be laid, the more "bending" the pieces will be.
Masha Ivanova
So Igor explained this slightly by a bend, which none of us pays attention to and does not consider it a bend.
And real curves are still obtained with sluggish or soft foods. Whether on an Alligator, or on some manual or electric grater. So on the Alligator, these blocks are the straightest. Straighter only from glass and metal.
Igrig
Quote: Masha Ivanova
So on the Alligator, these blocks are the straightest. Straighter only from glass and metal.
"Nails would be made of these cubes people, there would be no stronger nails in the world and straighter!" (FROM)
Crown
I don’t know what it turns out from glass, because I haven’t tried it, but on my grater there are bars and straws, always even, and slices / tongues of eggplant or zucchini can be adjusted to any thickness, even thin, to transparency.
But, clearly the stump, sluggish vegetables are more difficult to cut. I soak in water beforehand if I come across a wither.




Igrig, there is also such an interpretation:

Nails would be made of these people, there would not be in the world dumber than nails.

:-)))
nila
Quote: Masha Ivanova
Whether on an Alligator, at least on some manual or electric grater. So on the Alligator, these blocks are the straightest. Straighter only from glass and metal.
Berner is never straighter on a grater. I forgot what I promised to show. Now I chose the softest potato available. She took one of them, because nunafik product translate I will have to eat it in the form of fries.
Insert 10 mm, fries.
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

Insert for 1.6 mm and 3.5 mm. Exposed to a thickness of 3.5
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

And the same insert, only 1.6 mm
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

One thing is very bad that there is no 12 mm straw on the Berner. I miss her very much!

Igrig
Quote: nila
Berner is never straighter on a grater.
Q.E.D!!!
Because in Berner the food moves in a straight line relative to the knives, or vice versa: the knives move in a straight line relative to the food!
Evon was hooked on the problem of straightness!
Masha Ivanova
nila, Nelya! Natasha, once again asking the question that many people have, which device is better, has already guessed a hundred times from our answers that both an Alligator and a Burner are needed. So soon we, to our common joy, will be an example of her in the ranks of the Alligator-Berner Owners. Good luck to her!
Kubeba1
Quote: Igrig
This is if you do not take into account the internal stresses in products ...
Yes. If you try to cut carrots with a knife into small pieces along the axis and slightly at an angle, the latter will be straighter, because the mechanical elements of the wood are cut.
Nonsense
Guys, I'm crazy about the curvature of the potato slice. After cooking, the slices will still soften. If someone told me that my bars are not perfectly even, they would kill!
Masha Ivanova
I have an extra 9 by 9 insert for the Alligator-Lux. It is necessary to begin to "stock up". Maybe someone needs it? In a personal write.
Mirabel
I have a problem with the Alligator, it seems to have thrown out a plastic grate that rakes out the remains ... damn
Maybe there is someone else who solved this problem? or buy a new one, I can't go without it
Irgata
Quote: Mirabel
solved this problem?
you can clean between the teeth with a thin knitting needle, passing along and across between the teeth, and rinse under a stream.
Well, for convenience and speed, of course, it is better to buy a new cleaner, it is not expensive and costs.
In Russia you can buy in 🔗 , eg.
And during grinding, take out the cleaner more than once, freeing the teeth from adhering residues.

Lerele
Mirabel, they are sold separately, look for these grilles, you can always buy a new one.
Here

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Mirabel
Lerele, Lerelechka, thanks!
lana light
Quote: Irgata
In Russia you can buy in 🔗... stka-dlya-alligatora-6x6 / for example.
I went in for fun. My set of three alligators (small, 6 mm and 12 mm) costs 7 thousand rubles there! Not a fig! And I bought half the price a couple of years ago. Moreover, she told the seller that my friend could buy cheaper in Moscow and he gave me a discount!
I noticed that I practically don't use Berner in the last six months or a year, although he also stands on the tabletop, just reach out. Basically, on a 6mm alligator, all the figachu and two more Berner graters are in use, for Korean carrots and a large ryosti grater.
In general, I bought a set of alligators because of the smallest one. Moreover, I practically don't use it either.
Alenka578
I have long wanted a cube cutter for myself. Studied, studied the topic ... I can't pull the alligator for sure. The ideal solution would be a nice-diser, if there was confidence in the quality ... In general, I ordered a 6 mm status on ozone. Mine love small salads and potatoes in soup. Well, in the blanks, small pieces are better than through a meat grinder, and now the question arises, where to get a larger cube, by 9 mm ... And is it necessary at all? It seems like good reviews on DEKOK 2 in 1, it has apple cutter attachments and for fries. Nobody will tell you what the size of the cell is?
Alenka578
My unit arrived yesterday and took it away. I didn't expect it to be so big. I thought it was smaller)) STATUS by 6 mm
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Well, what can I say. At first glance, the plastic is of high quality, the blades do not dangle and are sharp. Everything fits perfectly to each other)) I have already tried it, of course, they immediately cut the potatoes, fry. And salad cucumber-radish-onion. Potatoes are just perfect for us, everyone loves smaller ones. The salad is also good, but you need a smaller radish, or a cube, not a block. In the morning I tried the carrots with a cube. Cuts well, but this size is nowhere ... If only in a puree soup. But boiled vegetable salads should be good. Just our size)) smaller)) onions are generally a song - chick and that's it! Smooth, small! In the soup and will not notice in general, I'm happy with the purchase now I'm thinking about 3x3 mm. 12x12 mm is definitely not necessary, it comes out large. I'm thinking about 9x9 ... Is it necessary ...
Irgata
Quote: Alenka578
In the morning I tried the carrots with a cube.
with raw carrots CAUTION - slicing only along root vegetable, the safest for an alligator - plates no more than 2 cm.
Raw beets are also a dangerous vegetable for our beloved "amphibian".
Alenka578
Irgata, Ir, thanks for the advice, I already understood that raw carrots are not for this thing. And there is no point in such thick blocks, there is simply nowhere. In a pressure cooker, puree soup will at least boil whole. And in ordinary soup, a large cube. It is better to grate the blanks on a vegetable cutter. And the beets did not even think into a cube. Where is her? I usually cook in large pieces in borscht, and then with a blender. Well, or I cut it fine.
I must try the vinaigrette

And no one, by chance, knows ... I watched the video about STATUS. Apparently, their own ad, not in Russian. So there were multi-colored buildings. And all sizes: 3 mm, 6 mm, 12 mm and 18 mm. I don't remember 9x9 ... And the set is different ... But in Russia there is ???
Still, while I was studying the topic of cube cutters, in a whisper I saw a nice diser in a bunch of colors and configurations. Now there are things for vegetable noodles in the kit. And again, I haven't seen it in Russia ...
Masha Ivanova
Alenka578, Lena! I still advise you to watch Alligators. There are plastic ones, there are 6 and 12, it can be 3 mm separately. There are metal ones (3,6,9,12 mm). Expensive in the store, so look at Avito. There are often not expensive. Let it be used. It's still much better than Status.
Alenka578
Masha Ivanova, Flax, while I deal with one toy, the alligator is still expensive ... And I don’t have to crumble a lot. I would like to, of course ... But how you sit on the site, you want so much
I'm fine here 6x6 mm. And we'll see the rest over time))
Masha Ivanova
Alenka578, Lena, of course. It's just that you yourself started talking about different sizes. So when you seriously think about another size, then remember about the Alligator.
Alenka578
Masha Ivanova, yes, probably ... Alligator is good, but very expensive ... AND SUDDENLY there will be a decent nice-diser idea, something cool high-quality sets people have been using for 10 years. But where exactly can I get them, high-quality sets ...
Natalia K.
Quote: Masha Ivanova
It's still much better than Status.
And what is better? At the price?
I have a Status 108102, the size of the cubes is 6 x 6 mm and 12 x 12 mm. Yes, 9x9 is not enough, but somehow I can do without it. And so the aggregate has proven itself very well. I'm not ready to spend a huge amount of money on something that I don't use very often.
Alenka578
Natalia K., what are you doing 12x12? I still have not figured out why I need it. A bit big, as it seems ...
Well, there is also no desire to spend a lot of money on graters, only for the brand. Looked at the 2 in 1 deco. Apple and fries, sort of like 9x9. Maybe I'll take a try. Moreover, an apple cutter is also needed, the old one broke. Sakura also launched a nyser-style vegetable cutter. Their technique is not the worst, maybe the vegetable cutter will be quite good.
Well, there must be at least something reliable, except for the alligator and status!
Omul
Quote: Alenka578
Alligator is good, but very expensive ... AND SUDDENLY a worthy niser-diser will appear
Elena, good afternoon. There is a metal alligator and it is not the first (the device itself, not to mention the interchangeable attachments that I buy separately) a nitri-diter. Alas, maybe I just take "Chinese" nicers, but I manage to squeeze even plastic drives, not to mention anything else. Why don't I refuse the Niceser: I cut potatoes on it, apples and so on, not solid and in large pieces. And a big drive is convenient for me, I am guided by it, I filled it up, which means there is enough for soup, for frying in a princess, and so on. But onions, carrots are fine, peppers are just an alligator. The price confused me for a long time. But I have not regretted
Natalia K.
Quote: Alenka578
what are you doing 12x12
Elena, I cut fries, and vegetables for frying and stewing. And so I use 6x6 cubes.
Irgata
Quote: Alenka578
what are you doing 12x12? I still have not figured out why I need it. A bit big, as it seems ...
ooo .. this is an extremely demanded cutting.
Apples for drying, potatoes for soup, for frying, in a stew.
Onions are also sometimes needed larger, in the same stew.

The size 6 * 6 ml is less in demand for me.
Alenka578
Omul, Maria, I don't cook so much so that a full large container for soup)) the children are small, they are smaller, my husband and I also like small cuts in salads and in soup. Today I stuffed a container in a vegetable cutter of potatoes - just 1.5 liters of soup It is clear that this will not be enough in a large saucepan, but we still have small volumes.
Natalia K., Irgata, Omul, Natalya, Irina, Maria, thanks for the answers is a very subjective thing, the size of the vegetable cubes will be entertaining 6x6 for now. And we'll see))
Svetlenki
Quote: Alenka578
children are small, they are smaller, my husband and I also like small cuts in salads and in soup.

Alenka578, Elena, a reasonable choice of the first vegetable cutter with a 6 * 6 insert. Honestly, I cut everything on this cube. 9 * 9 is, but idle. We love smaller too

Good luck and friendship with your new assistant!
Pochemuchki
Alenka578The 9mm status, sometimes with an additional 18mm grille, appears intermittently on Ozone.

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I also think everything, I need it, I have a Status of 6 and 12 mm, in principle, completely satisfied.
Natalia K.
Quote: Pochemuchki
🔗
Anyuta, this link is Status with a 6x6 grid. There is clearly a mistake on Ozone.
🔗
Alenka578
I just bought this. 6x6 mm. She took the last one. Does the status have 9x9? Like somewhere discussed, no.
Pochemuchki
Quote: Alenka578
I just bought this. 6x6 mm. She took the last one. Does the status have 9x9? Like somewhere discussed, no.

This is my mistake, I saw Status with an additional 18 mm grille and decided that the main one is 9.
Natalia K.
Quote: Pochemuchki
saw Status with additional 18mm grille
Anyuta, did you see? Maybe they were wrong?
As far as I know, 9x9 and 18x18 were not delivered to Russia
I asked Shtebovich about extra. inserts, so he said that 9x9 and 18x18 are not.
Pochemuchki
Yes, I saw it at Ozone last year, I also thought that this size is not needed at all.
Alenka578
Natalia K., but in nature? 9x9 ??? Not in Russia?
Natalia K.
Quote: Alenka578
is there in nature? 9x9 ??? Not in Russia?
Elena, I think on this issue it is necessary to turn to Shtebovich. He will more accurately say there is or not.
krysya
My Alligator-Lux arrived today with an additional unit.
Now I will gnaw carrots and peppers all week ... in the training mode, I fished a huge bowl of different sizes.
Alligator + Berner = ready for blank mode!

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