Ivan_M
bought a stove Moulinex RZ 710100

Moulinex RZ710100 Modes

she is given bags for making bread, I figured out no problems with them and baked them.

but when I tried it myself, without the bags, nothing worked at all. tried it three times.

please help me figure out how to bake bread.

in the instructions only it is written for such and such type of bag such and such mode.
but there are no details on the modes,
that is, I do not know how long the dough is kneaded, how much it lays, how much it rises, how much it bakes, and at what temperatures it is done.
so I don’t know how to adapt so that you can bake bread yourself and whatever you want, and not get attached to 9 ready-made bags.

if anyone has come across such an oven, with its baking modes and features, please explain how to bake bread without resorting to semi-finished products.

Thank you!!!
Ivan_M
the Moulinex RZ710100 stove has 17 programs
but there is no description for these programs in the instructions
that is, it is not at all known what operations are performed under which program, how long and at what temperature.
that's why I can't find the right program for the recipes at all.

if anyone knows, please share this information.

the stove itself looks like this

Moulinex RZ710100 Modes
Rita
Essentially all bread makers are the same. This site is full of tried and tested recipes. Take them and bake them. But first, buy a scale so you can weigh the food.
Ivan_M
for example, the total cooking time varies from 2 hours to 8 hours depending on the program.
I think that from program to program the processes are quite different from each other.
and another problem is that I have already taken 3 proven recipes, and each time the result was a failure.
The scales are on, the dosage of the products was normal.
here it is the time of the rise of the dough, and the time and temperature of baking affect, it seems to me.
there is no description of these modes in the operating manual, so that people would buy ready-made bags.
I already got tired of these bags, I want to bake my own and more creativity.
Admin

Surely at the very beginning of the programs there is a program obligatory for all ovens called BREAD or BASIC (basic), this is the simplest program for simple wheat bread. So try to use it first.
And then, in the internet there is a translator (for example, in Google), try to translate the name of the programs.

And you can bake bread, taking as a basis the tutorial ON BAKING BREAD IN A HOMEMADE BREAD - read very carefully! #

In the section The easiest bread (by model of bread maker) https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=499.0 bake bread for the Mulinex model, the principle of kneading and baking for all bread makers is almost the same.

Another topic Bread did not work out to help, I did everything strictly according to the recipe. What can be wrong? https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=146942.0

Good luck!
Ivan_M
thanks Admin !!
I have already begun to study the topic of bread for beginners,
I also looked at simple bread by models.
the problem is, with my bread maker, when I bought it and it did not occur to me,
that all her programs are tailored for purchased bags.
and there is no basic program, there is Pain rapide (fast bread) which lasts 2 hours all together and does not guarantee a good result, the dough does not have time to rise.
i thought that
- maybe someone has already encountered this and figured out the modes (decoded in stages, in time and temperature)
- maybe there is a pro in baking who will immediately say what's what
- you can sit on the edge 9 times with a stopwatch, and calculate all 9 programs, at least the time of each operation and the sequence.
lega
Quote: Ivan_M


- you can sit on the edge 9 times with a stopwatch, and calculate all 9 programs, at least the time of each operation and the sequence.

Why 9 programs? The description of your HP says 17. And what else seemed very good ...maybe there is an upper heating element in your stove? I read it in a transliterated translation. Maybe I misunderstood? Or is there really a heating element and the top crust turns out to be ruddy? Can I take a close-up of the control panel?
Luysia
Few have it ... New ...

The Moulinex RZ 710 features a new 2-plane moving spatula and a round bread pan in the shape of a black round loaf, as well as a new window covering that reflects heat back for an even crust.

Moulinex RZ710100 Modes

Moulinex RZ710100 Modes
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Quote: Ivan_M

the Moulinex RZ710100 stove has 17 programs
but there is no description for these programs in the instructions
that is, it is not at all known what operations are performed under which program, how long and at what temperature.
that's why I can't find the right program for the recipes at all.

There are no descriptions of the programs, but their names are. Here you should be guided by them.

Write here the names of all 17 programs, we will figure out what to bake where.

And the bread maker is very interesting.



Vanya28
Here is the instruction, if anyone needs -
Moulinex RZ710100 Modes

Folding paddle.
Round and wide bucket.

Machine translation 17-18 pages (almost understandable)
2. Sélection menu
• Refer to point 3, page 12.
Menu Départ différé Mass (9) Browning]
1 French seed bread Bread français * Menu dédié in préparations boulangères. yes yes 500-900
2 Sweet Menu Brioche dédié in préparations boulangères. 750 yes yes
3 Crisp loaf with figs * Pain * Menu provenzal dédié in préparations boulangères. yes yes 500-900
4 Unclear Rustic bread menu dédié in préparations boulangères. yes yes 500-900
5 Bread menu dédié long fermentation in préparations boulangères. yes yes 500-900
6 Quick Bread This menu allows réaliser bread faster. Bread can qualité totre affectée. yes 500-750 - 900 yes
7 Wholegrain from wholemeal * Menu dédié in préparations boulangères. yes yes 500-900
8 Rye bread * 8 Menu dédié in préparations boulangères. yes yes 500-900
9 Viennese bread * Menu dédié in préparations boulangères. yes 500-750 - 900 yes
10 Gluten free Gluten Free Bread This menu is a utilisé réaliser for gluten free bread recipes. Gluten free bread is suitable for people intolérantes gluten free (celiac disease) in several céréales présent (blé, barley, rye, oats, kamut, épeautre, ...). The tank will have a well of bread ktre systématiquement nettoyée so there is no risk of contamination of other flour. In the case of a strict gluten-free régime, make sure the yeast utilizes the gluten-free également. The consistency of the gluten flour does not allow for optimal mélange. Therefore fold the edges when pétrissage with a flexible plastic trowel. Gluten-free bread will be dense in consistency and color more than usual bread. yes 500-750 - 900 yes
11 Dough Pвtes levées Do not cook this menu. This is a pétrissage a menu and shoot all pвtes levées like pвte a pizza. yes no 500-750
12 Dough Pвtes fraоches pétrit This menu is only. It is not destiné in pвtes levées, such as noodles. Numbers 750-750 - 900 non-
13 Jam This Jam menu is prépare and automatically prepares jam for the bread tank as well. The fruits should be coupés grossièrement and dénoyautés. no no
14 Unclear Gvteau This menu allows you to create pvtisseries and gvteaux with baked powder. To achieve the best résultat, it is préconisé to use this menu with a weight of 900 g. 900 yes yes
* Find it rather préparation boulangère site 🔗еe-moulinex.com

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15 Unclear Pétrissage This menu allows sélectionner to time 1 minute pétrissage manually between minimum and maximum 60 minutes, and use the keys + and -. It is only used for a pétrir. After that, you must let stand and raise pвte. no Yes
16 Kneading? and Proving dough with temperature control Levée This menu allows sélectionner time levée manually from 5 minutes to 5 hours minimum réglable maximum in increments of 5 minutes, and use the keys + and -. You can choose the button également température with Browning: either léger (25 ° C) or medium (30 ° C) or high (35 ° C). It is used only for a levée from pvte. no Yes
This menu is only
17 Bakery products Cooking 5 minutes 80 minutes a, réglable in 5-minute increments, darkening in light, medium or foncé, and use the + and - keys. He can only totre sélectionné and totre utilisé:
a) in combination with pvtes levées menu (menu, H),
b) réchauffer or make them crusty bread déja cooking and cooling,
c) finally, cook in the event of a power outage during the prolongé bread cycle.
A bread machine is not unattended when using the menu
17. To interrupt the cycle to the end, arrкtez menu manually by holding the Q key no yes

Ivan_M
Quote: lga

Why 9 programs? In the description of your HP it is written 17. And what else seemed very good ... maybe there is an upper heating element in your stove? I read it in a transliterated translation. Maybe I misunderstood? Or is there really a heating element and the top crust turns out to be ruddy? Can I take a close-up of the control panel?

because 9 of them are not understandable for bread. the rest for diabetics, pizza, crispbread and cakes, stirring, proving, and a separate oven.
I don't know what TEN is. but the top cover is dense, double, and reflects heat, the crust is obtained from all sides.
the control panel is visible in the video in the adjacent message.
there are five stages
1.mixing
2.exposure
3.raising
4.heater
5. fine-tuning

the menu button is responsible for selecting a program
button with weights for a weight of 500 750 900 to choose from, seems to affect the baking duration
button with a loaf, adjusts the browning of the crust, 3 levels, seems to affect the baking temperature
the +/- button adjusts the delay time, it seems up to 15 hours, and in programs 15-17 the procedure time - kneading, raising, cooking, respectively, it also turns on / off the sound signal

now I will try to translate the menus as I can, since I don’t know the terms ... guess for yourself, we will correct it along the way

table

program number // program name // comments






































































1bread with seeds, French breadfrom bags
2briochefrom bags
3crispy bread with figs, rustic (provencale) breadfrom bags
4wholemeal bread (rustique)from bags
5long fermentation breadfrom bags
6quick breadthe fastest time mode, but the quality of the bread suffers
7whole breadfrom bags
8Rye breadfrom bags
9Viennese breadfrom bags
10gluten free breadFor those with gluten problems, it is recommended to use gluten-free yeast and rinse thoroughly from previous pastries that may contain gluten before cooking. the bread turns out to be thicker and paler than others.
11raised doughthis menu does not bake, only kneads and raises the dough. can be used for anything where raised dough is required. recommended for pizza
12fresh doughthis menu is just kneading. accordingly for cases where dough lifting is not required
13jamthis menu is for making jam. the fruit should be chopped coarsely enough. the bones are removed.
14sweet pie, cake, cupcakethis menu is for yeast-based pastries. for best results, it is advised to set the mass to 900g
15kneadingthis menu allows you to manually select a mixing time between 1 and 60 minutes using the +/- keys.
16climbmanually, you can select the time for raising the dough from 5 minutes to 5 hours, using the +/- buttons. you can also set the rise temperature 25/30/35 degrees using the "baking intensity" button (which is responsible for the crust)
17bakery productsthis menu adjusts manually the baked goods from 5 to 80 minutes (+/- buttons). as well as the blush of the crust (the button where the bread is drawn) **


(**) menu 17 can also be used in the following cases
- in combination with menu 11, for subsequent baking
- for heating or toasting a crust of ready-made bread
- to end cooking if there is a malfunction in the process

// in case of a failure, power outage, the bread maker stores the last state in memory for 7 minutes, then resets it.
// in mode 17, it is not recommended to leave the bread maker unattended

some recipes

quick white bread




















weight900g
water410ml
salt2 h / l
flour Т55670g
yeast3 h / l


pizza


























weight500g750g
water170ml260ml
olive oil1h / l1.5h / l
salt0.5h / l1h / l
flour Т55320g480g
yeast0.5h / l1h / l


fresh dough






















weight500g750g900g
water80ml120ml160ml
egg234
salt0.5h / l0.75h / l1h / l
flour Т55330g500g660g


jam
















oranges750g
sugar750g
lemon juice50ml
pectin50g

Attention: the volume of fruit should not exceed 900g.
Vanya28
Well, in general, it's understandable, at least to me.
Due to the design, it is a fairly decent stove, otherwise Moulinex is true to itself in not the best understanding.
But all this is nonsense, as soon as you make the tables, you will bake any recipe in it, and with a tambourine, just no problem.
Work on the signs, you can do it without flour and everything will be cool.
Rye in it will be without problems, I can already see how and I can bake right away, read in my topic, the link below is red.
Five hours of proofing with temperature control, very good, any sourdough bread without problems.
Baking 80 minutes, very good.
Since it is not programmable, then buy a small Tambourine in the form of an alarm clock - a timer.
The rest is fine.
Ivan_M
Quote: Vanya28


As soon as you make signs like this, happiness will descend on you !!!
Sample plate.
Moulinex RZ710100 Modes

these are the plates I want to make but only for this machine.
because the instruction manual avoids giving them by all means, for commercial reasons.

I made a translation of the main plate
Vanya28
Quote: Ivan_M

these are the plates I want to make but only for this machine.
because the instruction manual avoids giving them by all means, for commercial reasons.

I made a translation of the main plate

These are just dodgers in Moulinex, very willing to sell packets with mixtures for her.
Ivan_M
Quote: Vanya28

Well, in general, it's understandable, at least to me.
Due to the design, it is a fairly decent stove, otherwise Moulinex is true to itself in not the best understanding.
But all this is nonsense, as soon as you make the tables, then any recipe is baked in it, and with a tambourine it is simply no problem.
Work on the signs, you can do it without flour and everything will be cool.
Rye in it will definitely be no problem, read in my topic, the link below is red.

if everything is so clear, can you explain in more detail how to make such plates and bake bread so that something tasty turns out without bags.
and my rye bread turned out the worst. sank completely and came out such a hat)) damp inside.
Vanya28
Quote: Ivan_M

if everything is so clear, can you explain in more detail how to make such plates and bake bread so that something tasty turns out without bags.
and my rye bread turned out the worst. sank completely and came out such a hat)) damp inside.

Yes, no problem, with Rye you write and read in my subject.
How to make tablets - there is a sample, watch the TV show, start the stove at the same time, you can with the lid open and watch what it does, filling in the time table during the action, reading the indicator readings at the right time.
The indicator will show how much time is left until the end of the program.
As soon as the baking is turned on, turn off the stove by holding Stop for 3 seconds. and move on to the next program.
Crusts and so on at this stage are not essential.

Still need to go toUrs Young Fighter by Admin - Baking basics for beginners.
It's here - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=171421.0
With Rye, you can come to me in the subject.
Ivan_M
Quote: Vanya28

Rye in it will be without problems, I can already see how and I can bake right away, read in my topic, the link below is red.
Five hours of proofing, very good, any sourdough bread without problems.
Baking 80 minutes, very good.
Since it is not programmable, then buy a small Tambourine in the form of an alarm clock - a timer.
The rest is fine.

Well, actually, I wanted without a timer tambourine, so that I threw everything, left, came, everything is ready))

rye looked, I will have to ask you for a long time which is which of the ingredients)))
light agrarian for example, where the malt is taken, ...
it looks delicious in the pictures))
Vanya28
Quote: Ivan_M

Well, actually, I wanted without a timer tambourine, so that I threw everything, left, came, everything is ready))

rye looked, I will have to ask you for a long time which is which of the ingredients)))
light agrarian for example, where the malt is taken, ...
it looks delicious in the pictures))

Repeat the question in my topic.
All information is on the site, we will show you.
Ivan_M
Quote: Vanya28

Yes, no problem, with Rye you write and read the topic.
How to draw up plates - there is a sample, you start the stove, you can with the lid open and see what it does by filling out the table in time by reading from the indicator.
The indicator will show how much time is left until the end of the program.
As soon as the heating turns on, turn off the stove by holding Stop for 3 seconds. and move on to the next program.
Crusts and so on at this stage are not essential.

As I understand, baking is almost all the same for 50-55 minutes, and three temperature regimes, for different crust.
What about the main differences in kneading times, standstills and dough rises? So?

and from the bags and their names, can you guess what their composition is?
Vanya28
Quote: Ivan_M

As I understand, baking is almost all the same for 50-55 minutes, and three temperature regimes, for different crust.
What about the main differences in kneading times, standstills and dough rises? So?

and from the bags and their names, can you guess what their composition is?

Yes, you can guess the composition. But this is not very critical, the tables will decide everything, I'm not kidding.
The crust is obtained mainly not by temperature, but by increasing the baking time by several minutes, but otherwise you understand everything correctly.
Get comfortable.
I am going to answer you on the topic of Rye and add to the list of adapted models for baking it -
Custard rye bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives..

Baking Rye Bread in Moulinex RZ710 -
1. Kneading 20 minutes
2. Ascent to 35C for 60 minutes or until the volume almost doubles, but no more.
3. Bake 80 minutes.
Ivan_M
people who have this bread maker, respond !!!
let's do a joint experiment on existing menu-programs
to restore the baking table.

everyone will choose one or several modes for themselves, bake something on it, timing the time of each operation
then put everything into a single table.
vernisag
Hello ! Even I did not understand, but that not a single program is simple for ordinary bread, without bags, there is no ??? And, of course, I would very much like to see what this oven bakes in general, in the sense of a photograph of finished bread. And by the way it is now called like this Moulinex RZ 7101 La Fournee , maybe the other is completely on the program? There's a big book of recipes like ...
Vanya28
Quote: vernisag

Hello ! Even I did not understand, but that not a single program is simple for ordinary bread, without bags, there is no ??? And, of course, I would very much like to see what this oven bakes in general, in the sense of a photograph of finished bread. And by the way it is now called like this Moulinex RZ 7101 La Fournee , maybe the other is completely according to the programs? There's a big book of recipes like ...

So read the modes of programs, where does the packet. These bags are just sharpened for baking on these programs and nothing more. Any bread is baked in the same way using the same programs.

And here it is called in exactly the same way, well, just a little shortened the name.

These programs allow you to bake everything, and the rest of the programs must be painted.

15 kneading This menu allows you to manually select a kneading time between 1 and 60 minutes using the +/- keys.
16 manual lifting, you can select the time for raising the dough from 5 minutes to 5 hours using the +/- buttons. you can also set the rise temperature 25/30/35 degrees using the "baking intensity" button (which is responsible for the crust)
17 baking This menu manually adjusts baking from 5 to 80 minutes (+/- buttons). as well as the blush of the crust (the button where the bread is drawn) ** More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=171421.0

Ivan_M seems to have painted them, but he hasn't been visiting the site since June.
You can try to ask the administration for his e-mail.
vernisag
LA FOURNEE RZ710130 I still found such a name and I think, since on the official website it is in the status "novelty", then I suppose all the same that there are changes in it. It is generally necessary to go to the store again, torture the seller, read her book and poke the buttons ... It's a pity that Ivan_M disappeared somewhere, of course I have questions for him. Well, on the account of programs 15, 16, 17, I read earlier, as I am not very interested in dancing with a tambourine (you can knead it with your hands and bake it in the oven), for this they invented the shob, she did everything herself and made it easier for us a life.
Vanya28
Quote: vernisag

LA FOURNEE RZ710130 I still found such a name and I think, since on the official website it is in the status "novelty", then I suppose all the same that there are changes in it. In general, we must go to the store again, torture the seller, read her book and poke the buttons ... It's a pity that Ivan_M disappeared somewhere, of course I have questions for him. Well, I read about programs 15,16,17 before, somehow dancing with a tambourine is not very interesting to me (this way you can knead with your hands and bake in the oven), xp for this and invented Schaub, she did everything herself (like a tablecloth, the one that Samobranka, apparently) and made life easier for us.

Full automatic machine, and even then conditionally, this is only for baking wheat varieties.
Feeling that you do not really know the technology of baking bread in HP, wandering and rushing about looking for not knowing what.
Especially when traveling in the non-programmable section of bread makers.
Maybe it's better here to start? ---- >>> MANUAL TO BAKING BREAD IN A BREAD Maker - A BEGINNER'S MANUAL
Natali.M
🔗 these are instructions and recipes, take them soon, otherwise they are not stored there for a long time
vernisag
Quote: Natali.M

🔗] these are instructions and recipes, take them as soon as possible, otherwise they are not stored there for a long time
Doesn't open, and my computer says that I can't load it
Natali.M
Well, I don't even know, I just scanned it and pushed it in pdf, I can try it in Word, I'll post it in 15 minutes
Natali.M
it didn't work in the Word, saved it with pictures and packed it into the archive, try to download 🔗
Natali.M
there is only a cupcake and charlotte, I don't know, or a typo or grams are still meant, or really you need 150 (cupcake) 200 (charlotte) teaspoons of sugar
vernisag
Well, this is a book of recipes from HP, I would like, of course, homemade pictures, my own bread baked at home ...
Natali.M
yes, they are only super fried so far, I had bork before that, I got a little pale bread, well, out of habit I put it on the darkest crust, I just bought it yesterday, I baked three bread, with different crust, everything is super tanned, there is still a glass cover removed, today I will try without it, maybe it will turn out lighter ...
and I posted the scan, because there is a description of the modes, and then some users have difficulties
vernisag
Aaaaaa! So this stove appeared in your house! Congratulations!!! With this it was necessary to start! Well, let's give us live photos of your bread, tell us everything, show us, share your emotions and impressions and get ready to answer a bunch of questions ... I am very interested in this hp model. And the description of the modes is right for us here ...
Natali.M
I have only used the main mode so far, the shovel is notable there, everything mixes up great, I don't have to help, I didn't notice the kneading and proofing time, because in the evening I brought in and quickly threw in a whole grain bake, well, let's call everyone and brag right away, while I was chatting on the phone, the coal turned out (although I stopped the program 15 minutes earlier), although the crumb is even, pretty and very tasty, the children said with sour cream and the crust was also tasty, put the yogurt bread in the mode with a medium crust in the morning, there was no coal, but also very fried, before leaving for work I put the usual white bread with a light crust, called the children, they say it is also dark, in the evening I will train again !!!
vernisag
Natalia (yes?), What model is RZ7101 or RZ 710130 you have and you don't know how they differ? And so I understood that the algorithms of the programs in the book are not described, how long does it take to knead, rise, bake on each program?
Natali.M
Yes, Natalia! I have a Moulinex RZ710130, I don’t know the differences, and the algorithms in the book are not painted, there are descriptions of programs, for which baking to use, I will fight the mode plate itself as I use it ...
vernisag
Is there a rye bread program?
Natali.M
even two modes of rye bread, one is called long-term, the other is simply rye and in the description (for bread with the addition of rye flour)
vernisag
If it's not difficult, if you're going to bake on them, please write down everything in time. Interestingly there is a tama obminka? And how long do these programs work, is there a total time?
Natali.M
Well, in the evening I'll look at the time when installing the program, the instructions do not have cooking time
Natali.M
in the evening the guests came to try my coals, so only now I got to the computer ...
Yesterday I set rye according to program 5, the cooking is really long, 8 hours 15 minutes, after the start, it kneads for 10 minutes and then makes a couple of turns with a spatula every hour (literally 4-5 seconds), at the end of the program I was already asleep, and I can't say how much she gives out time to rise, but before baking starts, the bread maker gives a signal, so I woke up and looked that 1 hour 5 minutes was allocated for baking.
Natali.M
1 White bread 500-900 2h 51min
2 Easter cake 750 2h 46min
3 Traditional bread 500-900 2h 56min
4 Bread with additives 500-900 3h 00min
5 Rye bread. Long-term cooking 500-900 8h 15min
6 Quick bread 500-750-900 2h 07min
7 Whole grain bread 500-900 2h 40min
8 Rye bread 500-900 2h 45min
9 Loaf 500-750-900 3h 44min
10 Gluten-free bread 500-750-900 1h 55min
11 Yeast dough 500-750 1h 13min
12 Unleavened dough for pasta 500-750-900 21min
13 Jam 1h 04min
14 Cupcake 900 1h 31min
vernisag
Nothing to myself 8 hours program .... Thank you Natalia! Did you take pictures of the bread?
Natali.M
My husband took my camera on a business trip, I can only take a picture with my phone, by the way I photographed bread on yoghurt, this is the second coal !!! I just don't know how to put a picture here, except for a link to a file hosting service
vernisag
Natali.M
Moulinex RZ710100 Modes
Natali.M
Moulinex RZ710100 Modes
vernisag
Thank you Natalia for the photo! Small of course, but you can still see that the bread is good, so rosy! Oh, and you already have this third stove? And how, in comparison, do they like praise? And another question, did you (can you please?) Knead bread for 500g of flour? I saw this stove in the store, the bucket in it seemed to me huge ... You can probably bake in it for 1 kg of flour? Yes?
irman
Irish, you delve into it slowly, and the bread from the photo is really not bad.
Natali.M
BBK is a very good bread maker, I had no complaints about it at all, the recipes in the book are all very tasty, and yogurt too, I did not make kilogram baked goods in it, because 750 grams of it was lifted, then she had a year later merciless operation jammed the shaft in the bucket, took it to the service center, and they took it away from me and returned the money, they said the company's policy, order a new one, and then I did a very big stupidity, added money and bought a bork, fell for the second round bucket and very positive the seller's opinion about this stove, as a result, she baked 5 different misunderstandings from the book, and took it to the store for a return, they baked the sixth misunderstanding there in front of me, called it bread, and said that if I don't like it, take it to an independent examination, where it is to this day and remains ...
vernisag
Oh, I asked Irina and me about a large bucket and bread from 1 kg of flour. irman also something similar to your situation, our stler stoves were taken away and for a month they have been gathering dust in the SC ...

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