AlenaT
But what are they crazy !!!
Or is it a non-standard match?)))
Mona1
Quote: AlenaT

But what are they crazy !!!
Or is it a non-standard match?)))
Such are the tiny half-cubes. My mother has a word that she would supply them - gamuznya. All the juice will flow out, only skins will remain. If you rub boiled vegetables, it will also turn into porridge. Only if you do caviar. And if vinigret or Olivier, then there must be much larger than this size. In principle, I only cut onions into cubes for frying. So it is perfectly cut by the Trend on knife inserts - 3.5 mm finely, 7 mm larger. Pieces are obtained due to the layering of the onion.
Well, I don't want to be so categorical. Perhaps someone is actively using these cubes for some purpose and is very happy about this, I just do not really know what to do with them and therefore I do not regret that I have not Prima, but Trendy + stub.
Caprice
Quote: Mona1

Such are the tiny half-cubes. My mother has a word that she would supply them - gamuznya. All the juice will flow out, only skins will remain. If you rub boiled vegetables, it will also turn into porridge. Only if you do caviar. And if vinigret or Olivier, then there must be much larger than this size. In principle, I only cut onions into cubes for frying. So it is perfectly cut by the Trend on knife inserts - 3.5 mm finely, 7 mm larger. Pieces are obtained due to the layering of the onion.
Well, I don't want to be so categorical. Perhaps someone is actively using these cubes for some purpose and is very happy about this, I just do not really know what to do with them and therefore I do not regret that I have not Prima, but Trendy + stub.
I cut completely on Olivier raw vegetables. Then it doesn't turn into mush. Then these raw I boil vegetables in a double boiler. Then the olivier / vinaigrette turns out neat and it is all prepared much easier and faster. I don't like too coarsely chopped Olivier / Vinerget.
Venta
Quote: Mona1

If you rub boiled vegetables, it will also turn into porridge.

If you use the holder, yes. He breaks them with pins, not a grater. Without a holder, boiled vegetables are cut into cubes well, I checked, but this is already fraught with cuts (((

Although the cubes are, yes, really small, I don't like it, so I almost never cut it.
Selina
So, girls, I ordered. I will take it and in general, the order turned out to be big :) There is a free position-set V-Prima with a pot, a 10mm insert and a box, so if anyone needs it, write to HP. I ordered one extra kit just in case. This is for Ukraine.
I ordered myself Prima, Babygrater, Rocko, waffle Classic, add. 10mm nozzle In general, in my opinion I did not miss anything. Aaaa, also a box and a box for inserts. Happy as an elephant!
Caprice
Quote: Venta

Without a holder, boiled vegetables are cut into cubes well, I checked, but this is already fraught with cuts(((
You should always remember this!
Mona1
Quote: Selina

So, girls, I ordered. I will take it and in general, the order turned out to be big :) There is a free position-set V-Prima with a pot, a 10mm insert and a box, so if anyone needs it, write to HP. I ordered one extra kit just in case. This is for Ukraine.
I ordered myself Prima, Babygrater, Rocko, waffle Classic, add. 10mm nozzle In general, in my opinion I did not miss anything. Aaaa, also a box and a box for inserts. Happy as an elephant!
I chose very good graters! When they arrive, let's show off!
Kasanko
but I still can't decide - Prima or Trend have already read the topic several times (the old one too)
Mona1
Quote: Kasanko

but I still can't decide - Prima or Trend have already read the topic several times (the old one too)
Take both.
Mona1
Girls, tell me urgently, I will bake the fish on the airfryer. On top there will be an onion, a carrot with tomato paste, sugar and vinegar. What is the best way to grate the carrot - on Roco or slightly larger - on the 3.5 mm insert? I'm afraid if he is on Roko, he will burn out.

Everything, did not wait for advice. Made on a 3.5 mm insert. It turned out - unsuccessful. The carrots crunched on their teeth, did not have time to cook. In the next. I'll try it once on Roko and pre-hold it in the marinade.
Selina
Quote: Mona1

I chose very good graters! When they arrive, let's show off!
Greetings! First, thank you so much for your help in choosing the right girls.
I am reporting: for two days I have already rubbed everything on all the graters I bought. Yesterday I cooked 8 liters of vegetable soup with cabbage, carrots, zucchini, onions. Everything essno rubbed on Berner Today french fries and vegetable stew in a cartoon. Rubbed husband. Everyone is wildly delighted. The house has two cool harvesters, but Burner is really fast, everything is at hand and washes at once. In general, I understand that I will use it and not just use it, but almost every day :))) By the way, rubbed with cubes and bricks on Prime. Very convenient and fast. The cubes turned out to be rhombuses, but in a stew it looks even more interesting.
Mona1
With a start! I also love my graters. Did you like Roko? I love the carrot on it so much. She is so neat, it's a pity to eat. Used to sit and admire.
Caprice
Quote: Selina

The house has two cool harvesters, but Burner is really fast, everything is at hand and washes at once. In general, I understand that I will use it and not just use it, but almost every day :)))
A similar situation
Pilgrim73
Selina, congratulations on a wonderful purchase !!! This is the number one assistant in cooking, Berner and I have grown so much like that, I can't even imagine how you can live without him.
Selina
Quote: Mona1

With a start! I also love my graters. Did you like Roko? I love the carrot on it so much. She is so neat, it's a pity to eat. Used to sit and admire.
Thank you! Roco really likes it. Rubbing carrots on it for frying for soup, very good! And on baby rubbing cheese is sooo useful thing. Although, initially I did not want to take it, because children who are not infants already somehow did not see how I would use it. I haven’t tried the waffle tart yet. She is alone in the box so far, untouched. But I think we'll fix it soon :)))
fakell
Kasanko, take the prima, you will not go wrong. I am very pleased with the grater, especially that there is a "block" position, you can close this insert tightly on the blade on the main frame during its storage.
Kasanko
yes, in principle, I tend to her more and more. the only inconvenience is that I want to order it on ozone. ru, and there it will be within 10 days after ordering + 10 days shipment + 2-4 days processing by mail, and I'm going to leave on July 15th and I'm thinking
aleno4chka
Hello! And I am very, very thankful to everyone for their help in choosing the right tracks.
I am reporting: my Prima arrived today !!! I immediately decided to pochikat the cabbage, but I got so carried away that instead of the 1st roach I chopped 3 at once ... and then I tried the carrots with small cubes, but they were small and fell from the holder all the time (my five-year-old child was hooting from my attempts to rub it). We need to train in general ... I haven't unpacked the waffle grater yet, just admire
Mona1
Quote: aleno4chka

Hello! And I am very, very thankful to everyone for their help in choosing the right tracks.
I am reporting: my Prima arrived today !!! I immediately decided to pochikat the cabbage, but I got so carried away that instead of the 1st roach I chopped 3 at once ... and then I tried the carrots with small cubes, but they were small and fell from the holder all the time (my five-year-old child was hooting from my attempts to rub it). We need to train in general ... I haven't unpacked the waffle grater yet, just admire
Congratulations on the girls! Don't worry about the carrot falling.I, too, fell yesterday, as I did not pave it in the enty holder, just a thin carrot did not grow. And urgently print the waffle, the cucumber is probably lying around in the refrigerator. Just put the insert in it in the first position, where with lattices. In general, there is an instruction in a box, read it before rubbing.
And I have joy too. My friends, I am going according to the plan outlined by me to satisfy my wishes. And the first on the list for purchase for July were Carly's grater, a 10 mm insert and a universal box for 3 inserts. So after reading the message aleno4chki , ordered all this for myself. Hurrah! Soon there will be joy on my street as a newcomer arrives. Thank you azazuche... She posted such pictures of delicious salads from winter cabbage that Carly will now register with me. It's far from winter, but as they say, prepare the sleigh in summer.
Venta
aleno4chka, with graters you! Happy and safe slicing! Print the waffle immediately! The most beautiful thing now for salads is spiral waffles! The child will just check out the most
Lenusik-sh
I also have Berner. I've been using it for half a year already. Here I recently had to leave for 3 weeks on a visit, so I was there without this assistant, as if without hands. With a knife, of course, I have not forgotten how to cut, but this is many times longer. I have a Pro model, grabbed the one from the counter that looked more like it. Then at home I figured out what I had bought. I found out. that this is the same Trend, only with a stub. I bought inserts for it at 10 and 1.6 mm. As happy as 100 elephants! Roko also bought a vessel and a spare holder just in case - I'm a thrifty lady. But everything is not enough for me. I rush about - either to the smart, or to the beautiful. I still like the Prima model, due to the fact that its knifeless insert is even, without hollows, etc. I am already staring at it in the store, but I beat myself on the hands because my husband bought me a Pro, and still remembers how much it costs. If he sees also I will accept it from me, he will beat me for waste.
Lenusik-sh
Berner insert frame
I also want to share how I am making cubes now. Although I have Prima, I didn't like the cubes - the rhombuses on it, and they are too small, it seems to me.
Somehow here in the subject I read the advice of a forum member, how she makes cubes: - removes the insert - holds the vegetable along it - inserts the insert - holds the vegetable across.
It seemed that it was confusing to do this, but the idea got stuck, I thought, why not? I tried to do something with inserts 0.7 and 10 - I didn’t like it, the cubes still turn out to be small 0.7, but I don’t want to remove and insert the same insert. No
Having received a parcel with inserts, I immediately tried to cut into cubes with two 10 mm inserts and - IT WORKED! Yahoo! These are exactly the cubes that I needed. Fine!
In general, we do this: we simply put one insert on the table, draw it along with a holder with a vegetable along it - cut it, transfer the holder with potatoes to a grater and hold it as usual with a holder - cut it. The main thing turns out quickly and the cubes are all one to one, even and square, and the size is what I need! Fine! Fine! Fine! More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=2844.0
I was interested in this dicing method. Instantly rushed to the kitchen to carry out this experiment. An apple came to hand - the cubes turned out, but there is one snag. When the knives reach the fruit holder, what should be done? On the frame, everything is clear - there are limiters that prevent the fruit holder from fidgeting over the knives of the insert, but what about the insert that just lies on the table? Without hesitation, I decided to make the frame myself. Here's what happened.
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And here are the apple cubes.
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Now I’ll run tomorrow for the second 10mm insert and I’ll run once on a wooden board, the second on a grater, and I’ll be happy.
Venta
Here they are our women - and they will come up with a new method of cutting cubes, and will improve, and modernize ...
Mona1
Yes, this really looks like real cubes, there is something for the eye to catch.
Lenusik-sh
The sons were spinning around and wondered why I was making a frame that looked like a grater frame. I explained to them, but the little kid did not fully believe that something would work out. By the way, the insert is inserted into my frame and snaps into place in the same way as on a grater, only with the help of four self-tapping pins - two on the bottom, two on the sides and does not sway anywhere after fixing. And at first I wanted to tightly screw the insert to the board with self-tapping screws, but then I thought that it would not be so convenient to wash it, and it’s not good to crawl food on self-tapping screws.
Lenusik-sh
Quote: irysska

Lenusik-sh
Well, just for this idea!
You're welcome! I have already bought two inserts for my board - 10 and 7mm, suddenly I want small cubes. For 7 mm, you will have to screw two more self-tapping screws into the board from below, so that it is fixed in the same way as by 10 mm.
Caprice
Quote: Venta

Here they are our women - and they will come up with a new method of cutting cubes, and will improve, and modernize ...
So after all, "the horses are all galloping and galloping, and the huts are all burning and burning" (c) What can women do?
Mona1
Quote: Lenusik-sh

You're welcome! I have already bought two inserts for my board - 10 and 7mm, suddenly I want small cubes. For 7 mm, you will have to screw two more self-tapping screws into the board from below, so that it is fixed in the same way as by 10 mm.
Maybe you will accept orders from those who wish to make such frames. I have a Trend, a copy of your Pro. I also want normal simply cut cubes. Right now Olivier hesitated to cut with a knife!
Lenusik-sh
Quote: Caprice

So after all, "the horses are all galloping and galloping, and the huts are all burning and burning" (c) What can women do?
And they will enter a burning horse, and they will stop the hut at a gallop
In the meantime, the trial and business, here's what happened: a zucchini 7x7mm. So quickly, just had time to turn. The remainder was, as usual, 2mm. It would take a very long time to use a knife.
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Lenusik-sh
Quote: Mona1

Maybe you will accept orders from those who wish to make such frames. I have a Trend, a copy of your Pro. I also want normal simply cut cubes. Right now Olivier hesitated to cut with a knife!
Let me lay out the drawing better. I'm a terrible lazy person. Therefore, I have a lot of adaptations to facilitate existence. And I spend all my free time from the kitchen and routine in the throes of creativity - I sew, knit, cross stitch
After all, the principle is simple, and it is not necessary to cut everything out so figuratively. Board, screw two slats of such a height onto it so that the knives do not look out. I did everything to myself, even without a drawing. I put the insert on the plywood and circled it. Then I decided to make a pen. I have an electric jigsaw, so I felt it out with bends, but you can cut it all off with a saw. And I only had a short rail, otherwise I would have made the runners even longer. ... Well, there was still a piece of the rail and I insured myself - I fastened two stripes inside so that the fruit holder would not jump inside, because it is already a little 90 degrees. Although it was going well.
Mona1
Quote: Lenusik-sh

Let me lay out the drawing better. I'm a terrible lazy person.
If Borner at the firm had everyone such "lazy", then no matter how many beautiful tees and inserts he had for us, otherwise there is so little new, additional accessories of any kind, so, probably, it's all there nifiga lazy people don't want to work.
Lenusik-sh
And my father always told me that "Laziness is the engine of progress." And again: "What others can do, we can."
🔗 Here is the drawing, it may be useful to someone. Mandatory dimensions are only those that relate to the dimensions of the insert: the height of the sides and the distance between them, as well as fasteners so that the inserts snap into place like on a grater. Cutting out in the shape of the letter "M" is optional. I did it only so that the products would not fall from the knives onto the plywood. (Today I crumbled all the products into cubes into stews, even tomatoes and bell peppers.)
When the photo opens, you can open the original, it is larger.
usina
Lenusik, why are you looking at Prima now? I studied Berner's Temka # 1 and # 2 from cover to cover.It's already ripe to take the Profi - as a more reliable metal, there is a stub, again, many speak in favor of the Trend - there are fewer residuals, and not everyone praises the cubes on Prima. And you also improved the Trend in terms of cubes. So why is Prima all the same?
Lenusik-sh
usina, I want to accept, because she has a straight insert without a knife. The Pro's knifeless inserts are all grooved, and the greatest depth of the grooves is precisely in the insert that I use most of all - the back of the plug. Sometimes cabbage clings to the ledge on the corner. I have it, like on gullies, jumping on this insert. And the hand gets a little tired - you have to keep the head of cabbage a little on weight so that it can jump well to the knives.
The pros are not all metal. Only the part on which food slides after the knives. And on the sides there are plastic and metal lining on it. Well, the handle is also made of metal. This model was chosen for my beauty. And now the hotzza convenience.
This is how it hangs in my most prominent place. You see, I have a lot of bells and whistles of this color.
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This is how it looks inside without an insert. All plastic, and the knives are attached to the metal plate with plastic. metal will be of use if the knives fall off
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These are the deep grooves at my most running insert. In appearance, somewhere in the 8-10mm depth.
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And here is that ill-fated corner, with some kind of squiggle, to which everything clings.
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Now my question. How big are the balances on Prima? On the Pro, when as, sometimes 2mm, sometimes up to 5mm. I have a lot of onion leftovers. The middle is erased to the bottom, and the edges are spread on the sides.

Kasanko
and I'm still waiting, can't wait for my reception, the lady is late chegoy-that. and on Sunday I'm already going on vacation for 2 weeks. pens are itching I have no more
Venta
Now my question. How big are the balances on Prima? On the Pro, when as, sometimes 2mm, sometimes up to 5mm.

Yes, in my opinion, too) I deliberately did not measure, and so - when how it goes, when I almost cut it to zero, when there is more left. It depends on which product in general and in itself, otherwise something also happens to spread out, spread out)

In general, I usually have the largest residues on tomatoes - if a tomato is very juicy and extremely ripe, it kneads towards the end, it also spreads all over the grater.
irysska
Quote: yusina

Again, many are in favor of the Trend - the residuals are smaller, and not everyone praises the cubes on the Prime.
yeah, and then run to look for this plug to Trend - and without it there are only 2 slicing thicknesses. Cost of the Trend + cost of the stub = almost the price of Prima.
Although this is as you like. To whom the Trend is dearer, to whom Prima is a matter of taste.
Lenusik-sh
Hold me seven! And now I'll go shopping to look for Prima. Pros bought in a large store "Our House". And naturally, no one showed or told me anything there. To be honest, when I brought the pros home, I was very upset at first when I saw the structure. But I wanted a design like Prima's - with a button for switching the thickness. The only thing that reassured me is that there is a stub insert, which looks stylish. And after I tried it and began to work, then I calmed down. And now I saw Prima in the store, in the window, without packaging, all three colors are looking at me and I want her again!
Venta
For example, cubes are too small for vinaigrette salads ... Therefore, I rarely cut them. Again, some boiled vegetables fall apart and this does not depend on the grater model)
But recently I stuffed peppers with vegetables - so cubes are quite suitable for stuffing.

Hold me seven!
No, we will not keep you. I just like the Enta button in Prima on the knifeless one - 4 cutting thicknesses + a plug, tyrk-tyrk and that's it - you don't need to take out anything, turn it over ...

I looked at the photo - the ears at the black insert - for sure, they can also break, like Prima's pins ...

At first I had a thought - oh, you could buy a Trend, save money, add. insert 1.6 ... And now I understand - it's not a fact))
In the end, each model has its own advantages and disadvantages, the main thing is that it perfectly cuts and pleases its mistress)
Lenusik-sh
Only in Kolomna we have only two points of sale that are indicated on the official website. And Prima is not there. Some kind of scum. And I found two more points in a pretty decent Uuterra store and another private tableware store. So in a private store the choice is good, there is everything that is on the site - Profi and Prima, and a waffle and vegetable peeler, and everything for carving. Looks like there are no fakes. But at the office. the site of these points for some reason is not.
Lenusik-sh
Quote: Venta

For example, cubes are too small for vinaigrette salads ... Therefore, I rarely cut them. Again, some boiled vegetables fall apart and this does not depend on the grater model)
But recently I stuffed peppers with vegetables - so cubes are quite suitable for stuffing.
I think that parallelepipeds will also be used for frying in borscht or for blanks. And I already have a machine for vinaigrette and Olivier. I'm not going to throw the Pro if I buy it. In the Pro I have a 1.6 nozzle. And in Prima it does not seem to be provided. Well, for beauty, the Profi will hang on the wall
Venta
And who is stopping you from using the same machine with Prima? )))

On the officer. site, many points, like online stores are not listed. At least the same Ozone where I bought it. Although on their forum, Berner, after questions from visitors, admits - yes, our products are there) Apparently no one has been updating the site for a long time)
Lenusik-sh
Quote: Venta

And who is stopping you from using the same machine with Prima? )))
Nobody will interfere. : o I stay with my grater. I suddenly felt so sorry for her. Hanging so poor, gathering dust. And so many inserts have already been purchased for it.
Mona1
Quote: Lenusik-sh

Only in Kolomna we have only two points of sale that are indicated on the official website. And Prima is not there. Some kind of scum.
Lena, when I took my trowels in my local store listed on Borner's website, there was also something there, stubs, for example. But they made an order for me personally and they brought everything to me, because where they receive the goods from, everything is there, and Prima is so necessary, this is the hit of the season. Or find out when they have a new one, there will probably be Prims in the new batch, they just managed to disassemble them now.
usina
Girls, many thanks to everyone for once again raising the topic Trend - Pro - Prima - "for and against". Special thanks to you, Lenusik, for a detailed test drive. There is still a doubt about the button on the Prime - on the one hand, it is very convenient - no need to rearrange anything. But some Prima users note that over time, the antennae of the button breaks. Although there is nothing eternal in this world.
Lenusik-sh
usina, I did not know about the antennae. Why do they fail? From frequent switching? There is no perfection in the world. I've already decided to stay with my Pro while she works. And then maybe Borner will think of something else
Mona1
Quote: Lenusik-sh

usina, I did not know about the antennae. Why do they fail? From frequent switching? There is no perfection in the world. I've already decided to stay with my Pro while she works. And then maybe Borner will think of something else
I don't remember who, but here someone wrote a couple of months ago that when working on Prima, the insert jumps from one thickness to another, not from any one, but from a certain one, from about 2 to 1 or vice versa, whether. I do not remember. Girls, who has been here for a long time, do not remember exactly what the review was there? Or maybe the author will respond?
Caprice
Quote: yusina

some Prima users note that over time, the antennae of the button breaks. Although there is nothing eternal in this world.
We give a 5-year warranty for Burner if you buy it from an authorized dealer. And after 5 years - we will come up with a thread
Caprice
Quote: Mona1

I don't remember who, but here someone wrote a couple of months ago that when working on Prima, the insert jumps from one thickness to another, not from any one, but from a certain one, from about 2 to 1 or vice versa, whether. I do not remember. Girls, who has been here for a long time, do not remember exactly what the review was there? Or maybe the author will respond?
Nothing jumps to me anywhere
irysska
Quote: Caprice

Nothing jumps to me anywhere
agree
although I do not use much, but also nothing and does not jump anywhere, and judging by its appearance, it is not going to

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