Scarecrow
Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 (in my white version):

Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20

I decided to create a topic for public acquaintance with this unit. Unfortunately, there is practically nothing in Russian. True, I can read / understand English pretty well off sight, but for those who are not at all in friendship with the language, it will be more difficult to get acquainted with her work.

Products webpage:
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Instruction (in English):
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This oven is American (120V, the company that owns the brand is Japanese), is not adapted for the Russian market and is not intended for it at all, therefore it works only through a voltage reducer.

What attracted me: the presence of interesting programmable cycles (3 "creative" programs can be remembered), the starter cycle (ie, making dough).
The programmed cycle has the following ranges:

Temperature equalization (adjustable from - to) 1-30 minutes
Mixing 1-30min
first ascent 1min-24 hours (28 degrees)
second ascent 1 min-2 hours (28 degrees)
third ascent 1min-2 hours (38 degrees)
baking 1-70 minutes (3 types of crust are exposed, the temperature is therefore different from 254 to 290 F, I did not count on degrees)
keeping hot up to 60 minutes
Any of the stages can be disabled (choose OFF)

sazalexter
Scarecrow Oh, how interesting! The first owner of this mysterious device on our forum! Everything is interesting from the method of purchase to operation in our conditions
Scarecrow
I've had a bread maker since summer. I ordered it on Ibei. Because of this, the cost turned out to be very decent. I don’t remember exactly how many, but what is more than 10 thousand - for sure. We burned it right away, having chosen the wrong reducer. Then the repair (done quickly), now it works without problems. What was needed was a programmable HP. Zorusha liked the programming mode more than all other applicants, so she chose it regardless of the cost. Now they have a newer model, which. in my opinion, inferior to mine. The proofing cycle in the programmed mode is somewhat shortened (I have 24 hours, there - 12) and the cycles in a number of basic modes (where by 5. where by 10 minutes, etc.). I don't like "quick" bread. For me, even longer, but better attenuated.

For me, a lot was new: I never had a HP with two mixers and quickly realized that it was pointless to torment it with small and medium volumes. It only smears. The Opara regime (2 hours 10 minutes) came to the court perfectly. I put a lot of dough on it or mix the pulish / bigu on it, and then put it in the refrigerator. It is difficult to adapt after Panasonic. I've been using it for too long, I'm too used to it.

I also played with the programmed mode several times, trying to attach it to sourdough bread. However, due to the untimely death of the leaven, the experiments had to be temporarily stopped. I will make the leaven - I will continue. While I was rebuilding these regimes for long-term French and whole grain breads (my own programs for this bread seem short to me). In general, the field for "games" is huge.

The instruction, which came with the HP, both pleased and upset me. They, unlike many manufacturers, write all the cycles in each mode and the time of its duration. Everything is clear and very clear. In contrast to the same Panasonic, which indicated the total proofing time without flipping, for example. However, the recipes in my instructions are in cups !! Incredibly infuriated, I have long lost the habit of so many approximate proportions. Now an updated instruction for my unit has appeared on the site, and there are already 3 columns in each recipe (they just included the weight of the products in grams). My joy knew no bounds, I downloaded and printed.
Catwoman
Cool stove! I can't go into new topics.
sazalexter
Scarecrow Yes .. it's almost like a Maybach in cars, you can only dream of such
Scarecrow
Yes, not to say that it is some kind of downright phenomenal. The oven is like an oven. If it were not for the programmable modes, nothing special, like all ovens. And these same programmable modes, as you know, are needed only by the very sick in the head. Like you and me ...

If suddenly something about her interests or a photo of something to do - I will do / answer. I was surprised that the bucket has no handle at all. It simply snaps into place, it is convenient to take it by the body, because it rises strongly above the sides of the unit (of course, when the lid is open). This is probably why they did not spank the handle.
14anna08
great! And the photo of the speaker's bucket and the dimensions next to the Panasonic for clarity?
Zvezda askony
And what about the taste of the bread?
sazalexter
Zorushi Virtuoso Home Bakery Virtuoso ™ Breadmaker BB-PAC20 🔗
instruction https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/3128/servicesupport/manuals/manual_pdf/bb_pac20.pdf

Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20

Google translation
Bakes large traditional rectangular 2-lb. loaf
Exclusive Home Menu includes 3 memory setting functions
Additional heating on the lid even for baking
Fast baking cycle takes just over 2 hours
13 hour delay timer
LCD clock makes it easy to check completion time and timer settings
Includes both easy-to-follow instructional DVDs, manual and recipe booklet
Setting menus include: main bread, wheat bread, gluten free bread, starter starter, dough, jam, cakes, unleavened dough cookies and 3 homemade menus
CULUS listed
Electrical parameters 120 volts / 700 watts
Proofing is programmable up to 16 hours
14anna08
Sasha, what page is the price on?
sazalexter
Price $ 279.95 🔗
14anna08
Yes thank you!
Catwoman
ScarecrowHow long did it take for the bread maker and the voltage reducer to go to you?
Scarecrow
14anna08

Anya, I am a disgrace, a disgrace, I looked at your request with a photo ... I am correcting myself ...

This is how the bucket sticks out:
Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20

This is what a voltage reducer looks like (they are made in Tula):
Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20

This is how she is inside:

Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20

Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20

sazalexter
Wow, cool! I respect the Japs, how well everything is done
Yvonne
Quote: sazalexter

Wow, cool! I respect the Japs, how well everything is done
Can you tell us more about "well done"? Pliz! ..
sazalexter
Quote: Yvonne

Can you tell us more about "well done"? Pliz! ..
Well, at least a method of attaching a two-mixer bucket
14anna08
Natulia, you're not a disgrace, I just have such a two-year-old that in the first year I didn't eat, I didn't do anything at all, so your baby is now the most important thing, the main thing.

Natasha, what a chii and unpretentious she is ...

and when your little daughter grows up, if I don’t find it, I’ll ask you for this device, if I don’t find it - if I can, of course. yesterday I looked at your stove on the Amazon, expensive but cool. there are no problems with the tip yet?

on the box it says in amazon made in china ...
Catwoman
May I have a small request? When you bake bread, throw us a photo of bread, this unit is very interesting.
Scarecrow
Quote: 14anna08


and when your little daughter grows up, if I don’t find it, I’ll ask you for this device, if I don’t find it - if I can, of course. yesterday I looked at your stove on the Amazon, expensive but cool. there are no problems with the tip yet?

on the box it says in amazon made in china ...

You mean a voltage underrunner, right? I'll buy it for you if need be. The main thing is not to stop producing, otherwise there were such conversations. But how do you ship it? By the way, it is very heavy, despite its size.

It can also be made in China. Japanese brand. That is, the development, technical solutions and design are Japanese. And it can be manufactured at any plant of this corporation.
Scarecrow
Quote: Catwoman

May I have a small request? When you bake bread, throw us a photo of bread, this unit is very interesting.

I will try!
I forgot to answer: the stove was running for a month and a half, in my opinion. I don't really remember anymore, to be honest. It is better to take a reducer here from native production. Firstly, the one that we bought right away and which supposedly fits in terms of its characteristics (China is hazy), we burned this stove to hell right away. We repaired it. It is better to take a sensible unit with a margin.Here they are not uncommon, but they do not cost 500 re, mind you. It will be 3000 thousand, you have to ask your husband for how much he bought it.
Catwoman
Quote: Scarecrow

I will try!
I forgot to answer: the stove was running for a month and a half, in my opinion. I don't really remember anymore, to be honest. It is better to take a reducer here from native production. Firstly, the one that we bought right away and which supposedly fits in terms of its characteristics (China is hazy), we burned this stove to hell right away. We repaired it. It is better to take a sensible unit with a margin. Here they are not uncommon, but they do not cost 500 re, mind you. It will be 3000 thousand, you have to ask your husband for how much he bought it.

Thank you! And what is the weight of this stove? To estimate the cost of delivery.
Scarecrow
Now I looked at my order for a beira. The oven went on for 2 months.

Weighs 7.8 kg (without packaging, of course). I didn't weigh it, the instructions say.
Catwoman
Quote: Scarecrow

Now I looked at my order for a beira. The oven went on for 2 months.

Weighs 7.8 kg (without packaging, of course). I didn't weigh it, the instructions say.

Thank you!
Scarecrow
I took it off for a long time, but I forgot to post it. Bread from Zorusha:

Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 Bread maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20
14anna08
Natulya, good, in my opinion very beautiful! fried so and dark - I love dark bread. and Lena Koshatnitsa shook the seas, I will then write to her what you showed.
Scarecrow
Anh, by the way, it is white, just almost 100% whole grain, hence the color of the crumb.
14anna08
Well, that means I love this one, he is not white, I once wrote out such flour on an Internet, I remember. but you won't find her here ...
sazalexter
Scarecrow Oh, what a delight (where is the smiley face bursting with envy)
Curlusha
Good day!
I am now choosing a bread maker, this model is very interested.
Our family is very fond of homemade noodles, dumplings and other products made from noodle and dumplings, and kneading the dough itself is quite difficult.
Can you please tell me if it is possible to knead dumplings in this bread maker?
Scarecrow
Quote: Curlusha

Good day!
I am now choosing a bread maker, this model is very interested.
Our family is very fond of homemade noodles, dumplings and other products made from noodle and dumplings, and kneading the dough itself is quite difficult.
Can you please tell me if it is possible to knead dumplings in this bread maker?

In any HP, you can knead the dough for noodles, dumplings, etc. And in Panasonic, and in Zorushi, and in moulinex, etc. This particular HP is rather big, keep this in mind, she doesn't like a small amount. A bucket with two mixers, so if there is not enough dough, she just spreads it. In addition, it is not for sale in Russia, only in the States (ibei) and the price is very decent because of this. As a person who has baked bread for a long time, who knows how to work with sourdough, I bought it precisely because of the programmed mode. If you are not interested in this / you do not know how, and generally a beginner in dealing with HP, you definitely don’t need it, and even for that kind of money. In this case, Panasonic would be more suitable for you.
sazalexter
Scarecrow young lady Curlusha from Vancouver which in Canada Zojirushi is just right
Catwoman
Quote: 14anna08

Natulya, good, in my opinion very beautiful! fried so and dark - I love dark bread. and Lena Koshatnitsa shook the seas, I will then write to her what you showed.


Anyutka, thanks for your concern, I'm already on the seas, but still I got to the computer. Scarecrow, cool bread, thanks for the pictures.
Curlusha
Thanks for answers!
In Canada, Panasonic is comparable in price to Zojirushi, but Zojirushi has a programmable mode that attracts me a lot.
And there is no Rye Bread mode in the Panasonic Canadian-American Bread Maker. And in general, against the background of the Russian version of Panasonic, the Canadian Panasonic looks very dull.
Scarecrow
A! And I didn't even look where you come from. Then, of course, quite the Zorushi. One BUT - she does not like small volumes. I never got used to it with HP with two stirring blades. One is more familiar.
Curlusha
I am also embarrassed by the volume of bread, after all, almost a kilogram will immediately turn out
Have you tried it, can it mix a little less, at least 700-750 grams?
Yulia Rakov
Today my order just came to me)))) It cost me almost 200 dollars together with delivery and shipment, the first one will be Darnitsky, I'll see how Russian bread will come out on American flour)))
sazalexter
Quote: Yulia Rakov

Today my order just came to me)))) It cost me almost 200 dollars together with delivery and shipment, the first one will be Darnitsky, I'll see how Russian bread will come out on American flour)))
Happy shopping! Soft bread for you
Yulia Rakov
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Happy shopping! Soft bread for you
Spasibo))) this is my first experiment with a bread maker, I used to put the dough in the old-fashioned way
Andrzej nov
A little more Zorusha
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14anna08
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A little more Zorusha
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with bai ru to contact as lucky, they are intermediaries - they are not responsible for the quality of the goods, I received a low-quality product and I studied almost all their documents by heart, besides, the company is registered in the USA and Russian laws do not work with them
Andrzej nov
Russian laws do not work in Russia either ...
Vlad_US
I love the BB-PAC20 from Zojirushi - it has a heater on the lid! The top turns out to be crispy! ... or it should work
orthodox
Yulia Rakov
you said that this oven cost you $ 200 with delivery, tell me how you got it so cheap? can she be used?
Scarecrow
Quote: orthodox

Yulia Rakov
you said that this oven cost you $ 200 with delivery, tell me how you got it so cheap? can she be used?

Oh, yes. I'm interested too.
orthodox
hmm, fun
Scarecrow
Quote: orthodox

hmm, fun

I was mistaken!!! I confused it with another person!)))
Vlad_US
I ordered my Zojirushi BB-PAC20 on Ebee for $ 264 with delivery.

I'm waiting until it comes

It is not yet clear how to make 680 gr on it. bread...
Yulia Rakov
I bought my bread maker through the bedbath and beyond store, with a 20% discount coupon
orthodox
if not a secret where are you from?

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