azaza
Quote: yara

azazaAs statistics show, such people are unfortunately most ... For example, many of my neighbors from electrical engineering only have a TV and a washing machine from the 80s. But such people do not go to the forum either, because they do not have a computer either.
Yes? Well then sorry. Out of the whole bunch of acquaintances, or acquaintances of acquaintances, only one family does not have a computer. But they also have a micra and a good washing machine. Honestly, I didn't want to offend anyone. I sincerely consider the prosperity of our family to be very modest, but, apparently, I have lost touch with reality.
And nevertheless: lack of funds does not at all mean that you need to live in the old way! And good fellows are those who, with all the modest budget, strive for the best
azaza
Quote: Lozja

Tanya, how many bukfs, barely mastered. But I fully support every word.
Oksan, sorry. I felt ashamed, Well, I am such a broad human being, this is how broad I think
Brevity is not my sister. Well, I'm not talent Chekhov
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Oksan, sorry. I felt ashamed, Well, I am such a broad human being, this is how broad I think
Brevity is not my sister. Well, I'm not a talent either

Oh, I'm so. As I begin to write, I cannot stop. Brevity is also not one of my relatives.
Elena Bo
I love good technology for a reasonable price. I have Panasonic HP and MV. HP is 6 years old and the bucket is in good condition, not shabby, although I bake it almost every day. And in the fall I even make jam. And MV is the fifth year, still with his own bowl, not peeled off, maybe a little scratched. If I really feel the urge to replace the cup, I’ll buy something from Brenda. And how MV Panasonic bakes is just a song. And not so much, by the way, they cost a lot of money to compare with Kuku. It is our sellers who use branded goods. But where Kuku got such a price is a mystery to me. I have never heard of such a company, as probably many others, so I cannot call it a brand.
Let everyone buy what they like, the main thing is not to be disappointed later. I am happy with all my equipment, which is what I wish for you!
yara
Quote: azaza

Yes? Well then sorry. Out of the whole bunch of acquaintances, or acquaintances of acquaintances, only one family does not have a computer. But they also have a micra and a good washing machine. Honestly, I didn't want to offend anyone. I sincerely consider the prosperity of our family to be very modest, but, apparently, I have lost touch with reality.

azazawhere is Kiev and where am I. Have you seen the level of the average salary in Ukraine in the context of regions? Compared with Kiev? Here's the same thing.
azaza
Quote: yara

azazawhere is Kiev and where am I. Have you seen the level of the average salary in Ukraine in the context of regions? Compared with Kiev? Here's the same thing.
No, I haven't. And I will not even look, more impressionable to horror.
azaza
Quote: sazalexter

Oh, here all the sisters are given earrings ??? "And they counted me" (c)
No, this is not a current for sisters, here and brothers get earrings. But one by one
azaza
Quote: Elena Bo

And how MV Panasonic bakes is just a song.
Eeeee Here I didn’t run into Panas about work. And bakes like a song, and multivarite is extremely delicate. But as for a brand (real!) I could have improved the bucket-pans. I'm not saying that Panas is bad, or Cuckoo is bad. I'm just saying that they faulty... And for double (for Papas) or fivefold (for Cuckoo) the cost could eliminate the disadvantages. The units are more than worthy. The price would be adequate for them - they would not have had a price
Panas, it is, of course, not so unrealistically expensive as the Cuckoo. But he works his work on an equal basis with state employees, buckets-saucepans are worse than in some state employees.Accordingly, its price, if it should exceed the budget, is purely symbolic - it would be an adequate markup to the name. And when twice less functionality is already inadequate.
Elena Bo
If you look at the bourgeois sites, then the Panasonic models are sea - in appearance and in functionality. It's another matter that only what is supplied is supplied to us. And this is no longer a question for Panasonic. The main thing for our businessmen is to buy at a lower price, to sell at a higher price.
azaza
Quote: Elena Bo

If you look at the bourgeois sites, then the Panasonic models are sea - in appearance and in functionality. Another thing is that we are supplied only with what is supplied. And this is no longer a question for Panasonic. The main thing for our businessmen is to buy at a lower price, to sell at a higher price.
But here I disagree. Our businessmen bring everything for sale. Even toothbrush rinse liquid hoping it will go. And someone would have taken up the multicooker long ago. Let them not be traded all over Russia, or Ukraine, but somewhere in some regions they would certainly appear. Immediately dull as in a tank.
It seems to me that this is the policy of the company. For some strange reason, it is not interesting for them to dump on our market all your farm. For a couple of models, HP and MV were put up - like, with the Russians enough. And this policy is puzzling.
irysska
Quote: Lozja

Tanya, how many bukfs, barely mastered. But I fully support every word.
Yes, and I am of that opinion!
Tanya, yes you need to be a journalist - you write cool
azaza
Quote: irysska

Tanya, yes you need to be a journalist - you write cool
Thanks sweetie! I have already been both a journalist (a little bit) and a writer. Now I'm just a cook, and I'm incredibly happy about it!
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Thanks sweetie! I have already been both a journalist (a little bit) and a writer. Now I'm just a cook, and I'm incredibly happy about it!

Oh, incredibly interesting. And where can we talk about this so that the moderators do not flood?
azaza
Quote: Lozja

Oh, incredibly interesting. And where can we talk about this so that the moderators do not flood?
In a personal, probably For people like us have not yet invented compartments
Lozja
Quote: azaza

In a personal, probably For people like us have not yet invented compartments

No, well, suddenly someone else will be interested. Let's go to the literary club, huh? There I’m going to forget about this, about this, about graphomancy ...
azaza
And we have cho, also a literary club? Just like adults, stoll?
Lozja
Quote: azaza

And we have cho, also a literary club? Just like adults, stoll?

- https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=203.0
irysska
Quote: Lozja

No, well, suddenly someone else will be interested. Let's go to the literary club, huh? There I’m going to forget about this, about this, about graphomancy ...
And I'm with you in the literary club
Alexa13
Quote: Elena Bo

I love good technology for a reasonable price.
Let everyone buy what they like, the main thing is not to be disappointed later. I am happy with all my equipment, which is what I wish for you!
Elena, I completely agree with you! I have the same attitude. For myself, I consider it foolish and foolish to throw out 20-35 thousand (a new bork, for example) for a slow cooker. What for? If in a cartoon for 3-5 thousand I cook better! And I never suffered from snobbery (in order to spread my fingers and say that I have the coolest and most expensive cartoon). The family doesn't care what I cooked, the main thing is that it is delicious. And buy only so that girlfriends can be taken on excursions ...
I just don't see the point in such expensive gadgets. Moreover, one piece, for example, is not enough for me, I need 3-4 for my family. And if the devices "die" after 2-3-4 years of use, without worrying too much, I will throw them out, buy something new and interesting. And then you buy such a miracle Yudo (35 thousand !!!!) and then shake over it so that you don't "throw your skates away." After all, she should serve me, not I should serve her.
dandelion
I bought my MV Panas for 3499. Where else is more budgetary? And in HP, the bucket is plowing around the clock and nothing for him. I saw HP in less than 5 tons.
Elena Bo
Quote: dandelion

I bought my MV Panas for 3499. Where else is more budgetary? And in HP, the bucket is plowing around the clock and nothing for him. I saw HP in less than 5 tons.
Exactly! It is not necessary to buy a new model, it can be easier. I saw on sale HP 257 model for 4 something. Quite a good price for excellent quality! And last summer MV could be bought for 4. I do not consider this an exorbitant price.
Alexa13
You just need to be smart about the issue. Choose quality items, but at an adequate price. Not disposable nonsense, but not a pan for the price of an aircraft.
Alexa13
Now, by the way, many well-known brands are lowering prices for their units, which were very expensive for a couple of years. With such an abundance and variety of equipment (both a multicooker and a bread machine), it should be more than affordable. It's just kitchen appliances and nothing else..
Oca
I went to drink some tea, and then I managed to cook up 3 pages. Their MV and HP bought for 3890 and 5250, respectively. Yes, I deliberately overpaid 1-1.5 thousand for the Brand, but at the time of purchase I did not find anything more worthwhile for a lower cost. Buy MV Polaris for 1300r or Scarlett for 1500r did not. Firstly, I got goosebumps from touching their pots, and secondly, I already had problems with putting their equipment in service. And KhP chose one criterion - that the maximum loaf was at least 1 kg. (By the way, there was a complaint above about the insides of HP, mine also turned yellow from the inside with butter cakes in six months, but I washed it with a steam cleaner, try it).
I want to thank all the participants in the discussion. I learned so much new and interesting! Thanks to this forum, I began to orient myself at least a little in the market of kitchen appliances and bought several "Wishlist". Let's not quarrel over trifles, because everyone will praise their home appliances and further disputes do not make sense.
Ukka
And I'm planning to buy a little Panasonic ... Yes, a little Liberton costs half as much, but spare pots for it not at all, and on Panasonic you can buy your own, and if you try, then the analogue is cheaper in Russia .... Yes, Dex showed himself very, very much, and the saucepans are cheap, but - I need just a small one !!! But Deksik doesn’t have it ... So I’ll make the effort in the summer and buy Panasik-10.
And the cuckoo for me is something of a museum ... Beautiful - but inaccessible !!!
And I can masterfully make pirouettes in the Klatronic rice cooker, I will buy a cheap pan from Panasonic-18 for it (here's another reason why I don't want a completely cheap cartoon - my rice cooker has bubbled up in 2 years of operation). Although the rice cooker cost 30 cu. e, but I do not want to throw it away, email. part works ...
azaza
And I was convinced that it is more profitable than Dex in Ukr. multi no. I have a second Lieber - a wonderful cartoon, but the saucepan is already covered in scratches. And this despite the fact that she appeared with me only a couple of months ago, and her saucepan is considered very much even nothing. And here you go - dex like new, although she is already six months old, and Libertosha ... It does not burn until it burns, but these scratches scratch my vulnerable soul
So the next thing I will take will be Dex again. 60, or, mabut, already 70
And most importantly, even if suddenly something - to buy a spare tire for Dex - just spit! Amazing: the highest quality saucepan turns out to be the cheapest!
Ukka
Tanya, that I am also for Dex, but he DOESN'T have a LITTLE MULTI !!!
And I need just this! Well, what's the point of telepathic porridge from 0.5 multi-glasses of cereal in a large cartoon ??? They will say - what is possible, and then they wonder why the coating will quickly climb ... And elementary overheating ...
Oca
URRRAAAA !!!!! They brought it to me! They brought it! Just! As I posted the previous comment, they called and said that they would bring home in 5 minutes! Small Supra 4531 3 liters! I'll take a picture and add syudy !!!! (2373r + 99r for home delivery)
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sorry, but did not manage to pour the soup from Panasonic (this is not dreg, it is normal, just from the fridge) was in a hurry to show the purchase. As I understand it, I am one of the first who ventured to order this model. Experience the boom tomorrow!
Elenka
ukka, a very correct choice! There is simply no small MV better than little Panasonic!
I have a small Liberton, nothing like that, but almost a tank compared to a small Panasonic.
At one time I regretted the money, but it would have been necessary to collect ...
What then to do with my Lieber, when the pan becomes unusable .... to save up a park of multicooker "almost working"
And the little Panasonic can be worn under the arm, it is so compact and lightweight.
azaza
Quote: ukka

Tanya, that I am also for Dex, but he DOESN'T have a LITTLE MULTI !!!
No no, Yucca, I’m not persuading! I only share my findings. And the conclusions are: I love Lieber with tender love, but Dex still rules. And all because of the saucepan. The set of programs is probably the best and exists, but you can't find a better dex pan. * do not offer a cuckoo for comparison *
Wasp, congratulations! Don't let the pot disappoint! And, of course, we are waiting for objective impressions.
azaza
Wasphow pretty she is !!! That would be the same beauty in work in all respects!
julifera
Wasp - Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
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We always carry Panasik small with us to the seaside, we gorge ourselves a hundred times tastier and cheaper than in any cafes !!!
But this is only for those for whom to cook - rest
My mom thinks that rest is when you don't cook, but on the contrary, I'm high

Do not slander Kukushechka, it is very convenient, 1010 was in Technoplis with a 40% discount - it came out at a cost like a big Panasonic, quite an affordable price compared to Russian price tags.
Oca
Thank you!!! I fell in love with her at first sight, I was looking for a month, yesterday I found and ordered. I didn’t expect to be delivered so quickly. In the club of deviceaholics, she has already noted that she fell ill with miltiv (n) aromania. But the third (probably) is too early to order, first I will try this one: pilaf, biscuit, porridge, something else. And there you will see what functions are missing. Is there a separate topic on Supras on the forum?
dandelion
And on which site did you order?
yara
Quote: Oca

As I understand it, I am one of the first who ventured to order this model. Experience the boom tomorrow!
This is something new? What programs?
Elenka
Quote: julifera

Wasp - Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
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We always carry Panasik small with us to the seaside, we gorge ourselves a hundred times tastier and cheaper than in any cafes !!!
But this is only for those for whom to cook - rest
My mom thinks that rest is when you don't cook, but on the contrary, I'm high
I am the same too! So I bought a small one for summer trips.
Oca
Quote: dandelion

And on which site did you order?
the first order from them and it was very pleasant to chat! With your favorite store, alas, friction appeared ... and also look at the Krasnodar topic - there are many addresses on the first page, but only those who have a delivery list to our city.
Quote: yara

This is something new? What programs?
See page 8 of this thread, Reply # 148 Feb 29. 2012, 01:09
Alexa13
Quote: Oca

I bought my MV and HP for 3890 and 5250, respectively. Yes, I deliberately overpaid 1-1.5 thousand for the Brand, but at the time of purchase I did not find anything more worthwhile for a lower cost.
Maria, do you mean Panasonic devices? For them, I am “for” with both hands, they are excellent in quality, and the price is adequate, although more expensive than the other brands listed by you. This is what I think sensible approach: You bought high-quality equipment for normal money... But for 1-2 thousand, and not several times overpaid! (as requested by two brands of equipment - cuckoo and bork). I, too, two years ago bought HP and MV exactly Panasonic, also paying more than I could pay for very simple models, but I took the highest quality, proven over the years and at the same time folk models! This technique is expensive compared to others, but within reasonable limits. It is available to the bulk of the population.
Of course, everyone chooses what they like. It's just not worth losing your head
Alexa13
Wasp (Maria), with the purchase! What a beauty in a flower! I ran the modes to read. How does a saucepan (bowl) feel at first? Strong?
yara
Quote: Alexa13

Wasp (Maria), with the purchase! What a beauty in a flower! I ran the modes to read.

And this is not to run far

Quote: Oca

Citizens of deviceaholics, something does not find a search on our website for such a multicooker: Supra MCS-4531
Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
Description:
Volume - 3L!!! True!
Maximum power consumption - 700W
Keeping warm - yes
Delayed start - yes
12 modes (8 automatic): Standard, Fast, Slow Cooker, Soup, Pie (baking), Steamer, Low Rice, Glutinous Rice, Porridge, Baked Rice, Stewing, Reheat.
Includes: spoon, ladle, measuring cup, spoon / ladle holder, grate-steamer, power cord.

Beautiful, compact, with flowers and large numbers. And the price is up to 2500r on the Internet. Who saw, felt, used where?
I saw that it is already on sale in Moscow.
Alexa13
I didn't understand something ... In the instructions and on the market, it is declared as 5-liter, not 3!
Oca
Quote: Alexa13

What a beauty in a flower! I ran the modes to read. How does a saucepan (bowl) feel at first? Strong?
I also liked the flowers. The saucepan is normal, not "cast iron" by weight, but not "luminous" either, it seemed thicker than the Panasonic one, it is nice to hold it in your hands. Wall thickness 1.5mm. For something, a non-stick coating was made both inside and out. I found a thin one in the box recipe book, studying. And I still cannot understand how the valve is unscrewed (if it can be disassembled at all) - it is round and has two hieroglyphs on it. The instructions do not say about it.
ATTENTION! Volume is less than 5 liters! She poured water to the very top - a little more 3000 grams = 3 liters total volume... But EVERYWHERE (on the box, in the instructions) it is written that five! Only in two reviews on the entire Internet found the correct information.
Supra Support Response
subject: Re: [Feedback] Multicooker capacity MCS-4531
Hello Maria.
You wrote on March 25, 2012 at 17:41:44:
> Hello! ...... decided
> order from an online store, but read
> reviews: it turns out that the volume of the bowl is not 4.5 liters, but
> only 3 liters. Is it true? On many sites
> 5 liters are indicated.
> Please indicate the displacement (total and
> useful) or MCS-4531 bowl sizes
> centimeters. Thank you!

4531 - 3 liters to the rim of the bowl (like Panasonic)
4511 - 5 liters to the brim - same functions.

Created a separate topic Multicooker Supra MCS-4531
svetlanna
This is some kind of nightmare. Not only that, having appeared on the forum, I "suddenly" wanted a multicooker, but my eyes are like that from reading. But there is no clarity. Correctly the daughter said: the more you read reviews, the more you get confused. We have such a choice in the city - Panasonic, Polaris, Redmond, Supra, Scarlet, Moulinex, Daewoo, Mystery, Visconte. Straight brains are already boiling. But the cartoon really wants. Maybe go to the store and which one "sticks" to my hands, that and mine?
Alexa13
Quote: svetlanna

Maybe go to the store and which one "sticks" to my hands, that and mine?
Not a bad way, by the way!
Zvezda askony
Quote: Alexa13

Not a bad way, by the way!
And the most optimal one.
They differ only in that there is a pressure cooker and a multicooker.
Maybe only Bran is different - I've never seen it live, and the reviews are good.
So take whatever you like.
There is no point in taking the road. 2t p - 3t p. - maximum - real cost
If you do not like it, then it will not be so a pity to transfer
Happy shopping!
Alexa13
Quote: Zvezda Askony


There is no point in taking the road. 2t p - 3t p. - maximum - real cost
If you do not like it, then it will not be so a pity to transfer
I am also not a supporter of chasing high prices by all means. Both expensive and cheap devices work in almost the same way.
Zvezda askony
Quote: Alexa13

Both expensive and cheap devices work in almost the same way.
They work in completely different ways.
But cheap ones can cook on their own in the same way - and so far there is nothing to compare them with.

I could not get enough of la small pile - a pressure cooker - while she was alone.
Here is the average price category - this is the payment for the brand.
By the way, a cunning German company (cunning because I have never heard of it - until they said about it)
makes cartoons - clones of Japanese tigers.
The price is average - of course, they raised for the boyend - 2.900 and 3900.
Surprisingly, there is not a single user of this cartoon on our forum (Sigmund seems to be with someone, I don't remember exactly)
It is very interesting to find out what kind of "animal" - from the photo it is certainly not clear.
SweetCandy
good morning everyone!
girls! I am faced with a choice ... agonizing between POLARIS PMC 0508D and PANASONIC SR-TMH18 LTW
Help me decide
svetlanna
Thanks for your participation and advice! I saw "Sigmund" in our shop too, but in the Institute I found only two reviews, and they were not flattering. Therefore, she was not even considered as a contender for my attention. I gave myself a term - a week, and to the store, but the certainty is already visible. As for the prices, of course, I would like it for cheaper, but ... But I want it to be without disappointments, that is, the device should be reliable and without "tricks" in the form of "unexplored" bells and whistles. Oh what a nitpick I am

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