sweetka
Comrades! Who uses all sorts of drying machines, please tell us about them. I got tired of drying next to the radiator - the air in the room becomes somehow chemical, and often things don't have time to dry out, "suffocate", you have to rewash.
So I'm thinking about how to make my life easier. There is a washing machine, so I would like to hear the opinion of experts specifically about individual dryers:
Does this drying affect the wear rate?
to what extent does it dry?
do dimensions matter?
well, and what nuances, which, perhaps, I do not even suspect.
Don't let your little things go to waste with your work and then earned!
lega
Svetik, as far as I understand, you are not planning to change a washer-dryer for a washer-dryer. Just want a tumble dryer separately? Have you looked at any specific model of the dryer? then at least show a picture, otherwise search in the internet for this-(Tumble dryer VS Clothesline) does not give anything concrete.
sweetka
Galyus, I don't know anything about dryers at all - neither in practice, nor in theory. Therefore, I can't say anything about specific models either - none of my friends use such a beast. Everyone has enough space on balconies or in their own yards. And I have neither a balcony nor a yard.
In general, is it worth bothering with this kind of device or continuing to suffer with the clothesline?
lesik_l
I have had a washer dryer for 15 years.

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Does this drying affect the wear rate?

Drying takes place at a low-speed mode, the laundry just flounders, so there is no point in talking about additional wear, there is no stretching or creasing.

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to what extent does it dry?

As you want, it will dry out - you need more, longer time. I leave it slightly damp for ironing, but I dry the socks and linen to the end.

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do dimensions matter?

The more free space in the drum, the more laundry can be dried at a time.
sweetka
and how long does it dry?
And did anyone buy such a device in the near future? to understand which firms, brands, models to pay attention to?
and what to ask sellers when buying?
energy class - a principle category?
lega
Svetik, I have practice in two washer-dryers. The first is the Italian Ocean, like from 96. The second is Kuppersbusch since 2002. Both work well so far. There are no miracles in this dryer. There is just a fan and blows hot air through the car, something like a hair dryer turns out. But I'm so used to it that I simply can't imagine a car without drying. I always put any laundry to dry. Not for long, as a rule. Wet laundry, hot air - almost all wrinkles after spinning are straightened with steam. But I don't like to dry to the end. He then gets wrinkles from drying. That is, I could not get rid of the dryer in the room, but everything does not dry for long and there is no musty smell. There is no perfect drying solution. There are options with their pros and cons.
Bag-dried options also have their pros and cons. They buzz, smells go into the apartment, but they take up a little space.

The energy class, of course, matters. Well, this will be for you on the counter.

Svetik, have you read the topic? Washing machine with dryer
Sens
Quote: lga

..... The second is Kuppersbusch since 2002.
you taste good !!!
sweetka
Galyus, I read the topic. but I have a washing machine. where am I going to give her something. all the more so as the washing machine got under the hole in the bathroom, so that it got there millimeter to millimeter.
And how much is the laundry dried after the automatic dryer on the dryer? and is the air humid then? t.If I have a dryer in the room where we sleep, then I start suffocating at night :(
sweetka
Quote: Sens

you taste good !!!
What taste is considered bad?
in other words, which brand should you pay attention to?
I rummaged through our shops, offer Ardo, Bosch, Gorenie, Ariston.
Sens
I mean, Kuppersbusch is as expensive as Miele.

First you need to decide what exactly you need - a washer with a drying function or a freestanding dryer?
The question is, do you have room for a stand-alone tumble dryer?

from this and dance.
sweetka
freestanding dryer. the place will be found.
Sens
OK.
price category?

r.s. why not try to sell the old washing machine, provided that the new one fits in its place?
lega
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freestanding dryer. the place will be found.
In the bathroom? If there is such an opportunity, it is better to install a separate dryer (it can be in a column). Thanks to your question, I rummaged in the infe. If I chose now, I would take a separate dryer. We still need to dig how they are connected .. where does the moisture from the laundry go?

Svetik, also read here, not a bad article. post number 44

sweetka
why go to the water? my hairdryer does not connect to water
lesik_l
A hairdryer drives hot air, and cold water acts as a condenser for steam. Do you want all the moisture from the laundry to be in the apartment?
sweetka
hmm .. but according to Galina stsylka girls from Saechka. ru they say that the Boshevskys do not need a drain, only a socket is needed. I can reach the outlet, but the drain is more problematic ... (scratches the top of his head)
lesik_l
And what about without a drain? Where can the couple go? Something other options and do not come to mind: moisture must be removed somewhere.
sweetka
as comrades write in the reviews, the machine has a condensate container. it just needs to be emptied after drying.
if I understood everything correctly ...
lega
Quote: sweetka

as comrades write in the reviews, the machine has a condensate container. it just needs to be emptied after drying.
if I understood everything correctly ...

Svetik, you understood everything correctly. I already looked, and changed my post about connecting to water. Now it remains to figure out whether you will have a bathroom-sauna? And the smell from the detergents, I think, will be throughout the apartment, since it does not go away with water. This problem does not arise in tumble dryers, but here?
sweetka
Quote: Sens

OK.
price category?

r.s. why not try to sell the old washing machine, provided that the new one fits in its place?
nuuuuuuuuu ... eeeeeeeeeeee .... average. we take into account that repairs are underway and the last bag is left :)

Quote: lga

Svetik, you understood everything correctly. I already looked, and changed my post about connecting to water. Now it remains to figure out whether you will have a bathroom-sauna? And the smell from the detergents, I think, will be throughout the apartment, since it does not go away with water. This problem does not arise in tumble dryers, but here?
Well Duc it is going to the container, and not through the hose into the washbasin ... (this is how I argue out loud). what type of yuy should he steam all over the bathroom? not?
lega
Quote: sweetka


Well Duc it is going to the container, and not through the hose into the washbasin ... (this is how I argue out loud). what type of yuy should he steam all over the bathroom? not?

Yes, it seems ... keep in mind that only at condensation models, and not all in a row. The rest float into the bathroom.
sweetka
uh huh. I already understood. thanks to the beloved form, something starts to appear in the brain. it will be necessary today in the bathroom to measure all sorts of lengths and widths. if anything, I'll clean the cat litter box! let them go to the toilet like all normal people
Rita
I have seen that dryers are often placed directly on top of the washing machine. So they stand, in a column.
I connect them using the following thing:
Auto dryer VS Clothesline
sweetka
yes, cool idea. but my washer is very narrow. see 30, it seems. won't get up
magari
Quote: sweetka

yes, cool idea. but my washer is very narrow. see 30, it seems. won't get up
So you can change them in places, the dryer is down, and for yours to buy a stand By the way, it will be more convenient, got it up and down

I have a washer with dryer, I want a separate one. While looking at Bosch.
lesik_l
magari, and what is better than separate?
magari
Well, for example, my load for washing is 5 kg. And for high-quality drying max. 2.5 wet laundry.
A separate drying machine, as far as I understood from my assault on the Internet, has a normal full loading cycle of 5 (and where 6 kg), that is, it is not necessary to drive 2 times, as well as it is not clear where the second 2.5 kg should lie, while the first are drying.

Here again is the moment that the master warned me about (my typewriter is already 15 years old) that at such a venerable age, drying is often not worth starting. This is extra for her. an option, not a basic principle of operation. This was followed by an untranslatable play of phrases from technical terms ...
Sens
Quote: sweetka

nuuuuuuuuu ... eeeeeeeeeeee .... average. we take into account that repairs are underway and the last bag is left :)
since the top price category is 100,000 rubles, then we will calculate the average price of 30,000 rubles, that is, 1000 dollars.

sweetka
Quote: magari

So you can change them in places, the dryer is down, and for yours to buy a stand By the way, it will be more convenient, got it up and down

I have a washer with dryer, I want a separate one. While looking at Bosch.
alas .... they took the narrow one precisely because in that corner only this one would fit in width and not a millimeter wider. and the dryers will be wider in width. although the idea to put a typewriter on a typewriter oh how I like it!
magari
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since the top price category is 100,000 rubles, then we will calculate the average price of 30,000 rubles, that is, 1000 dollars.
SUPERRRR !!!!!
There are already 8 kg!
sweetka
Sens , or maybe you know which firms specialize in dryers? I have already said that in our area they offer Ardo, Bosch, etc. - is the brand of fundamental importance in this case?
Sens
I do not know.
but I think that there are no firms specializing only in dryers, since this is a very narrow segment of the market.
I advise Siemens, because they will not be bad anyway.
However, I think there is no big difference between Siemens, Bosch, Ardo, Kandy. Just look where it is collected.
sweetka
Quote: Sens

However, I think there is no big difference between Siemens, Bosch, Ardo, Kandy. Just look where it is collected.
and where should it NOT be collected? and where is assembly encouraged?
Sens
Quote: sweetka

and where should it NOT be collected? and where is assembly encouraged?
I think that assembly in germany, france, spain will be better than poland, hungary and turkey.

If my memory serves me, then there are also bad reviews about the Italian assembly.
sweetka
Quote: Sens

I think that assembly in germany, france, spain will be better than poland, hungary and turkey.

If my memory serves me, then there are also bad reviews about the Italian assembly.
Something I am oppressed by anxious doubts ... I’m unlikely to find such an assembly here. People's Republic of China is our everything

Rita
Ardo, I would not recommend it - the build quality is poor.
Sens
there infa only for functionality.
where it is collected, there is no push.

and you are interested in the build quality.

I think that the words of a washing machine repair specialist will help to decide. I called him and asked.

The problems in washing machines are caused by cheap Chinese parts.

This must be remembered!
he also said that Gorenje is definitely not.
he also said that the car must be adapted to the drops in Ukrainian voltage.
sweetka
Quote: Sens

he also said that the car must be adapted to the drops in Ukrainian voltage.
how can I check it? in the store, of course, they will tell me what is more adapted to their product and not to find! but with tension we have, yes, oh what tension.
Quote: Sens

there infa only for functionality.
where it is collected, there is no push.

and you are interested in the build quality.
me, sobsno, everything interests. and in terms of functionality Boshiki presented in this store as you?
Sens
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how can I check it? in the store, of course, they will tell me what is more adapted to their product and not to find! but with tension we have, yes, oh what tension.
it is better not to ask such questions straight away!
You first ask about Boshi, where are they made? If in Germany, then Chinese parts will not be there. this is enough to make a choice.And the voltage drops in Ukraine all the same are such that no adaptation will save. but only the stabilizer will save.

Of course, in your situation it would be helpful to talk to a local washer repair technician. Nobody knows better than them about the quality.
I do that. But I am sure of my master - he is an honest and decent person.
sweetka
a microwave master will not work? (with hope in his voice)
because of the reliable ones, I only have a microwave ...
but, in any case, I already even approximately imagine that in the store it is necessary to ask.
Sens
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a microwave master will not work? (with hope in his voice)
I think bargaining is inappropriate here!

Seriously, it depends on where he works. If in a multidisciplinary workshop, then he may have infa or he may ask, or he will tell who to ask. Or maybe he just has a friend who specializes in washers (most likely, washers and dryers are made at the same factories).
lega
Svetik, read forum.ixbt all the same. As far as I understand, not a single person has yet appeared here who has tried a separate dryer in operation ... only theorists (I am one of them) Read it, it will fit even more in my head or vice versa .. Your wiring in the house will withstand a large email. load? You have gas or electricity. plate? You also need to look from this side ...
Sens
Siemens WT 46W561
magari
From enlighten me dark, pliz.
There is a washing machine with a max load of 5 kg.
And there are dryers. They also have a load from 5 to ...
But, after all, the fact that I send 5 kg of dry to the washer, and then transfer it to the dryer will not work either. So the drying should be taken in excess of the washing machine in kg ... So?

Oh thank you sweetka, knocked my search off the ground
sweetka
Quote: magari

From enlighten me dark, pliz.
There is a washing machine with a max load of 5 kg.
And there are dryers. They also have a load from 5 to ...
But, after all, the fact that I send 5 kg of dry to the washer, and then transfer it to the dryer will not work either. So the drying should be taken in excess of the washer by kg ... So?

Oh thank you sweetka, knocked my search off the ground

Hope called her cousin to give me the phone number of a washing machine master. my brother fell into hysterics and yelled into my phone: "What is this nonsense for you ?! It doesn't really dry anything anyway!" but the phone gave. I have not called the master yet, but the hysterical fit of a relative embarrassed me.
magari
And I found people here, locals, who are satisfied above the roof. Dries and llllyoHka! None of those ropes, drying spears and others like them.
Therefore, I am still determined to buy.
sweetka
I am also set to buy. all the same, the brothers have long considered me "cuckoo", think, one more factor, one less
lesik_l
This is especially necessary when there are small children in the house. Well, the child climbed in the mud, why swear - we came home and after 3 hours everything is already clean and dry.
And with what eyes they looked at me when I was picking up a typewriter with a dryer in 1996. Many also did not know about the machines, and then there was drying. And after drying the diaper for a couple of nights with an iron, I threw the entire prize of my husband into the machine and do not regret it a bit.
sweetka
Quote: lesik_l

And with what eyes they looked at me when I was picking up a typewriter with a dryer in 1996.
Tellingly, I spend my money, not friends and relatives. But it seems that this is their personal money, which at the same time also flies into the pipe!
Sens
Quote: sweetka

... my brother fell into hysterics and yelled into my phone: "Why do you need this nonsense ?! It still doesn't dry anything!" but the phone gave. I have not called the master yet, but the hysterical fit of a relative embarrassed me.
brother - an old man and young people do not understand!
how does he know how it dries if he didn't have it ..
in general, the said - step ...

among other things, the master should be asked what he thinks about Siemens and Bosch assembled in Poland and how to repair it. this is important because you will have to buy one thing ...

As I found out, you need to buy a car with condenser dryer and thermal pump.
since machines without a thermal pump give off heat like a 2-3 kW heater.

and there is only one acceptable model Siemens WT 46W561
How is your house wiring?

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